I received two pieces of hate mail today

[Dumpy]

something along the lines of how Israel will be destroyed if Obama is elected. Guess who it was from? I'd be happy to quote it if anyone is interested.

 

[DaRizzle]

Yeah post it! I love a good laugh!

 

[isrus]

Might it have been from McCain's camp?

 

[huevonkiller]

Kind of an exaggeration to say the least.

 

[Denny Crane]

Obama's foreign policy advisors are well known to be pro Arab and not friendly to Israel. There may be a lot of truth to this, though it's hard for me to tell since I'm responding to a one-line post without much real information.

 

[DaRizzle]

Obama's foreign policy advisors are well known to be pro Arab

Good

 

[Dumpy]

The first one is from the "Republican Jewish Coalition." I don't know why they targetted me or got my name; I don't think my name is particularly Jewish. It is an oversized card. Above a photo of Obama speaking in Germany, it says:

Concerned about Barack Obama?

YOU SHOULD BE.

History has shown that a naive and weak foreign policy has resulted in tragic outcomes for the Jewish people.

on the other side, it says:

Obama has not shown the wisdom, experience or strength to stand up to the people who would do us harm.

Many Americans have questions about Barack Obama and whether his views are good for the United States and Israel. And for good reason.

Most concerning is Sen. Barack Obama's naive grasp of the threats against the United States and Israel.

From his opposition to legislation against labeling Iran's Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization to willingness to meet with Iranian President Ahmadinejad [that last clause in bold] without any preconditions, Se. Barack Obama has raised real questions about his judgment and experience.

Obama surrounds himself with anti-Israel advisors [that in bold] like General Tony McPeak, Zbigniew Brzezinki, Robert Malley and Rashid Khalidi. These men have played instrumental roles in shaping Sen. Obama's world views.

Sen. Obama told a Jewish group he supports an undivided Jerusalem, only to flip-flop the very next day. Another time, Obama called his support for an undivided Jerusalem a "poor phrasing" of words. [that sentence in bold]

Obama himself has pointed out that "words matter." And they do. Words matter to people who care about the future of Israel. And they mattered earlier this year, when Obama stated, "Nobody is suffering more than the Palestinian people." [that in bold, of course]

Human rights leader and former Israeli Cabinet minister Natan Sharansky said Obama's lack of experience is a "risk" to Israel [bolded]. His naive views are a risk to us, as well.

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The other one is from the Republican Party of Florida, and starts with "Barack Obama. Dangerously Unprepared." and just includes a bunch of scary-sounding quotes either by Obama or about him. It shows a picture of a stern-looking Obama superimposed in front of a map of Iran, Afghanistan, and Pakistan.

 

[44Thrilla]

I wish I lived in a tossup state so I could get some of this crap. The only thing I've gotten is something from my union, endorsing Obama.

 

[Mamba]

I love pro Arab's.

 

[Denny Crane]

The first one is from the "Republican Jewish Coalition." I don't know why they targetted me or got my name; I don't think my name is particularly Jewish. It is an oversized card. Above a photo of Obama speaking in Germany, it says:

Concerned about Barack Obama?

YOU SHOULD BE.

History has shown that a naive and weak foreign policy has resulted in tragic outcomes for the Jewish people.

on the other side, it says:

Obama has not shown the wisdom, experience or strength to stand up to the people who would do us harm.

Many Americans have questions about Barack Obama and whether his views are good for the United States and Israel. And for good reason.

Most concerning is Sen. Barack Obama's naive grasp of the threats against the United States and Israel.

From his opposition to legislation against labeling Iran's Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization to willingness to meet with Iranian President Ahmadinejad [that last clause in bold] without any preconditions, Se. Barack Obama has raised real questions about his judgment and experience.

Obama surrounds himself with anti-Israel advisors [that in bold] like General Tony McPeak, Zbigniew Brzezinki, Robert Malley and Rashid Khalidi. These men have played instrumental roles in shaping Sen. Obama's world views.

Sen. Obama told a Jewish group he supports an undivided Jerusalem, only to flip-flop the very next day. Another time, Obama called his support for an undivided Jerusalem a "poor phrasing" of words. [that sentence in bold]

Obama himself has pointed out that "words matter." And they do. Words matter to people who care about the future of Israel. And they mattered earlier this year, when Obama stated, "Nobody is suffering more than the Palestinian people." [that in bold, of course]

Human rights leader and former Israeli Cabinet minister Natan Sharansky said Obama's lack of experience is a "risk" to Israel [bolded]. His naive views are a risk to us, as well.

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The other one is from the Republican Party of Florida, and starts with "Barack Obama. Dangerously Unprepared." and just includes a bunch of scary-sounding quotes either by Obama or about him. It shows a picture of a stern-looking Obama superimposed in front of a map of Iran, Afghanistan, and Pakistan.

Seems like it's addressing a real issue for Jewish people to me.

 

[Mamba]

I don't give a damn about Israel, even though I should.

I live in America. I don't care what happens to Israel. We need to fix what happens here before we even worry about them.

 

[lukewarmplay]

I was raised Jewish- my family obviously is and many of the people I know are. We're all concerned about the state of Israel to varying degrees (I'm at the low end) and no one I know is voting McCain.

 

[GMJ]

Denny stop spamming Dumpy's mailbox.

 

[shookem]

Don't vote for this guy because someday you may want to visit there?

Seems weak.

 

[Dumpy]

Seems like it's addressing a real issue for Jewish people to me.

The language of the mailings is clearly manipulative, and designed to make elderly Jewish voters fearful. The overuse of the words "naive" and "weak." Logical jumps such as insisting that various acquaintances are "advisors" who "have played instrumental roles" in shaping his "world views." Trying to link Obama's statement that he would meet with Ahmadinejad "without conditions" to the latter's statement that Israel "should be wiped from the face of the earth." The phrase "dangerously unprepared."

It doesn't come anywhere close to an appropriate discussion, and you know full well that it doesn't "address" anything. It is disgusting--an attempt to obtain votes through inciting irrational fear. What would be appropriate? Something along the lines of: "every major jewish american group is against Obama." But that's not true now, is it?

It is another pathetic attempt to hold onto power at ANY cost.

 

[Denny Crane]

The language of the mailings is clearly manipulative, and designed to make elderly Jewish voters fearful. The overuse of the words "naive" and "weak." Logical jumps such as insisting that various acquaintances are "advisors" who "have played instrumental roles" in shaping his "world views." Trying to link Obama's statement that he would meet with Ahmadinejad "without conditions" to the latter's statement that Israel "should be wiped from the face of the earth." The phrase "dangerously unprepared."

It doesn't come anywhere close to an appropriate discussion, and you know full well that it doesn't "address" anything. It is disgusting--an attempt to obtain votes through inciting irrational fear. What would be appropriate? Something along the lines of: "every major jewish american group is against Obama." But that's not true now, is it?

It is another pathetic attempt to hold onto power at ANY cost.

He is naive and weak at foreign policy. His advisors are patently pro arab and anti israel. I am already concerned about his first two years on the job, and these things only add to my concern.

McCain is dangerously old, or so I'm told.

 

[Jurassic]

I don't give a damn about Israel, even though I should.

I live in America. I don't care what happens to Israel. We need to fix what happens here before we even worry about them.

I agree, well I won't say that I don't give a damn about them but this is hardly an issue that would decide my vote personally.

In battleground states it would be smart for a group like this to focus on issues that are actually going to apply to the majority of voters who are still "on the fence" about who to vote for. Not Israel, foreign policy yes (and by that I mean more relevant aspects of it that the Israeli conflict), the war yes, hell even gay marriage.

 

[CelticKing]

I don't give a damn about Israel, even though I should.

I live in America. I don't care what happens to Israel. We need to fix what happens here before we even worry about them.

I give a damn about Israel, and peace in Israel means peace in the US. Remember that.

 

[44Thrilla]

I agree, well I won't say that I don't give a damn about them but this is hardly an issue that would decide my vote personally.

In battleground states it would be smart for a group like this to focus on issues that are actually going to apply to the majority of voters who are still "on the fence" about who to vote for. Not Israel, foreign policy yes (and by that I mean more relevant aspects of it that the Israeli conflict), the war yes, hell even gay marriage.

The Jewish vote in Florida actually plays a huge role in deciding the winner of the state. They have large numbers and are willing to go with either party.

 

[isrus]

US citizens don't have to care about foreign relations, but you have to acknowledge it as a major topic which directly affects the US.

 

[J.S]

Why the difference of perception with social services programs and aid to Israel?

 

[DaRizzle]

I give a damn about Israel, and peace in Israel means peace in the US. Remember that.

Fuck that...we've helped that pussy country for way too long. They pick a fight and then hide behind their big brother.

 

[futurama_fanatic]

Fuck that...we've helped that pussy country for way too long. They pick a fight and then hide behind their big brother.

want to guess how many organizations and countries have the destruction of israel in their constitution? how about the number of countries that will not allow israelis or jews to travel to them if they have a passport from israel?

the pick the fight behind the brother is all wrong. the real pussies are the arab countries who won't stand up for their people. when israel was kicking ass in the six day war, the UN (arab nations bigger brother) wanted israel to immediately ceasefire when they were being threatened. if the egyptian military wasnt so retarded and actually won the war the UN wouldn't have given about the number of israelis that would have died, both arab and jewish. when israel was finally turning the tied in the yom kippur war (when Arab nations attacked israel during her most important holiday... sounds like a pussy right) the UN suddenly wanted a ceasefire. its interesting how that works. when the israelis fought the egyptians in 1956, guess who stopped israel from fighting? if you're concerned about the bigger brother thing, you might want to check what countries are really hiding.

 

[DaRizzle]

and you might want to go back a little further in history

 

[CelticKing]

want to guess how many organizations and countries have the destruction of israel in their constitution? how about the number of countries that will not allow israelis or jews to travel to them if they have a passport from israel?

the pick the fight behind the brother is all wrong. the real pussies are the arab countries who won't stand up for their people. when israel was kicking ass in the six day war, the UN (arab nations bigger brother) wanted israel to immediately ceasefire when they were being threatened. if the egyptian military wasnt so retarded and actually won the war the UN wouldn't have given about the number of israelis that would have died, both arab and jewish. when israel was finally turning the tied in the yom kippur war (when Arab nations attacked israel during her most important holiday... sounds like a pussy right) the UN suddenly wanted a ceasefire. its interesting how that works. when the israelis fought the egyptians in 1956, guess who stopped israel from fighting? if you're concerned about the bigger brother thing, you might want to check what countries are really hiding.

+1


If they wanted peace in the Middle East, we would already have an independent Palestine, but they continue to preach hate and jihad and the destruction of Israel (and jews and Americans).

 

[futurama_fanatic]

and you might want to go back a little further in history

a little back furthur into history is when the arabs, who werent even palestians yet, were murdering innocent jews.

both sides are guilty of many wrong deeds but lets not forget how this conflict keeps going on

 

[isrus]

Fuck that...we've helped that pussy country for way too long. They pick a fight and then hide behind their big brother.

Wow, please post an example where Israel has picked a fight without being provoked by a surrounding nation. 2 summers ago in the war against the terrorist group in Lebanon, they were being heavily pressured by the UN to cease fire immediately, instead of following out with what they were planning. They're army is one of the best trained in the world by the way.

 

[CelticKing]

Wow, please post an example where Israel has picked a fight without being provoked by a surrounding nation. 2 summers ago in the war against the terrorist group in Lebanon, they were being heavily pressured by the UN to cease fire immediately, instead of following out with what they were planning. They're army is one of the best trained in the world by the way.

Not only best trained but one of the strongest in the world. Kind of like the Spartans were the best for the Greeks. lol

But yeah Israel can take pretty much the whole Middle East by itself and hold its own against them. We should be proud that we have such a strong ally and a strong US supporter in that area.

 

[J.S]

Sarah Palin supports jews for jesus