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Denny Crane said:
To be honest, MM's been a problem poster for a while now. It's not this one incident that's all by itself enough to warrant the suspension. Think of it as the straw that broke the camel's back.
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it seems to me this is a very valuable point to take into consideration
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I'm more of the opinion that it's wrong for a woman to hit a man, but it's more wrong for a man to hot a woman because of the intrinsic physical differences between the sexes. Our that it's wrong to insult someone, but it's more wrong to insult someone based on their skin color or gender. It basically sounds like you're suggesting that ignoring sexism or racism is the way to make it disappear, and I completely disagree worth that notion. People don't change unless there's an incentive (or disincentive) that motivates that change. Fact is, culturally, societally, the disincentive to combat racism and sexism (among other -isms) is to respond more strongly when they occur. It's perfectly reasonable.

As for MZ's comment, I agree that he should be suspended too. What he said about MM, pissed me off, even moreso after he responded further completely unapologetic about it. That crap has no place here.
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I don't think we should ignore sexism or racism, but I think we should also be conscious of the other side of it. There are men who are in abusive relationships that receive no help because they're men. All I want is for people to be punished fairly. How is a man supposed to feel if he's in an abusive relationship with a woman who physically abuses him but he can't defend himself for fear of being arrested and shunned? I think it's horrible that some men feel trapped and alone because they can't tell anyone that they're in an abusive relationship.

If a woman hits a man. She should be arrested. If anyone hits anyone, they should be punished the same. That's all that I ask.

Similarly, if a poster personally insults another poster, they should be punished. It shouldn't matter if they're a man or woman.

(I'm assuming we belong to the same culture.) To me, whore and asshole are very different. Calling a woman a whore means that she is at best promiscuous and at worst a prostitute. Calling a woman an asshole means she's mean spirited. Calling a man a whore means he is promiscuous. Calling a man an asshole means he's mean spirited.

Man as asshole and woman as asshole are the same.
Man as whore and woman as whore are different.

Traditionally (up to the present day), men as celebrated for their promiscuity. Women are shunned for it, and the idea of women even considering sex with multiple partners has been used as an insult for time immemorial.
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My only point on that is that whore is still a generic insult. MM doesn't know anything about BF. He only knows that she's a woman. I agree that there's a double standard about promiscuity, but in this case I'm merely pointing out that it's a general insult thrown at the wall hoping it will stick. It has no bearing because we know nothing about BF or her sexual promiscuity. If I call you a virgin, and you're not a virgin, does it hurt your feelings?

Anyway, I guess my point in all this is that we should all be treated equally and all punishments should be doled out evenly. MM had been toeing the line very closely as of late, and this was probably coming. This was just the straw that broke the camels back.
 
The good news is the camel's back will be healed in 2 days, 4 hours.
 
In the interest of further transparency, nobody's been banned or suspended as a knee-jerk reaction by a mod. When the mods have brought up a poster who's been a problem, the typical action on our part has been to see if time heals things. It's just downright silly to be banning and suspending people with lots of posts (a measure of sincerity and loyalty) because of a single post or even a few days' worth of "bad" behavior (bad being in the eye of the beholder, no?).

The number of people who actually get discussed in the staff forum is less than 10 since 2008.

Not including barfo. We discuss him all the time.
 
I do wonder what the difference between moderation of insults and insulting things should be.

It seems that insults with malicious intent should be edited and repeat offenders punished more severely. That seems to be the case here.

With regards to Zags' insulting comments, I kind of feel like they shouldn't be edited because they have a natural consequence of having people's opinion of him lowered. People throw around insults like "asshole" and "whore" casually around here, but to take the time and craft some insulting shit has a bigger impact.

On the other hand, Sly has straight up deleted some shit MM has said that didn't contain insults but was insulting (or racist, whatever). So maybe some comments that are over the (completely arbitrary) line should be edited or deleted, even if they don't contain "insults."

Honestly, I'm on the fence on what is best for the community. Obviously the age old commandment of "don't be a dick" has no sway around here.
 
Stevenson said:
Well done. That's your job - to moderate.

And in any case, the misogyny here is often WAY over the line.
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My cousin brags about studying abroad.

Big deal. I've been studying broads my whole life.
 
Whore? I had no idea that was such an isluting term. Reading through this thread, I get it . . . terrible thing to call someone. I will make sure to refrain using that word when referring to someone. But if that gets you suspended, calling someone these should too:

cocksucker
shithead
motherfucker
cumdumpster
fuckhole
fuckmouth
****bag
twat
assmucus
fucktoy
fuckmeat
dickhole
poleslaw
****sicle
retard
whore?
 
Treaty_of_Batum said:
Whore? I had no idea that was such an isluting term. Reading through this thread, I get it . . . terrible thing to call someone. I will make sure to refrain using that word when referring to someone. But if that gets you suspended, calling someone these should too:

cocksucker
shithead
motherfucker
cumdumpster
fuckhole
fuckmouth
****bag
twat
assmucus
fucktoy
fuckmeat
dickhole
poleslaw
****sicle
retard
whore?
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If you say so.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
If you say so.
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See what I did there? He said those words should get you suspended for posting them so I suspended him for posting them. Hahahahahahahaha! Mod humor.

I better go un-ban him.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
See what I did there? He said those words should get you suspended for posting them so I suspended him for posting them. Hahahahahahahaha! Mod humor.

I better go un-ban him.
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LOL. I thought it was funny.
 
He was only banned for 2 mins so I doubt he even noticed.

But if he does it again I'll ban him for 3 mins.
 
Treaty_of_Batum said:
Whore? I had no idea that was such an isluting term. Reading through this thread, I get it . . . terrible thing to call someone. I will make sure to refrain using that word when referring to someone. But if that gets you suspended, calling someone these should too:

cocksucker
shithead
motherfucker
cumdumpster
fuckhole
fuckmouth
****bag
twat
assmucus
fucktoy
fuckmeat
dickhole
poleslaw
****sicle
retard
whore?
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Also I'm personally for the I sluting of people.
 
RoyToy said:
Natebishop is right that post would have been just deleted if it were a male poster.

The irony here is that MM was suspended for a post where he was actually right: It's odd that this new 2013 poster dishes more insults out than anyone on this forum, but one insult thrown at "her" and a long-time poster is suspended for 3 days. That's injustice.

Not that it matters here per say but BF has a long history of personal attacks and trolling on the former Blazer forum Iamatrailblazerfan. While MM took things a little to far there is quite a history from BF to consider as well.

Additionally if Zags knew about MM kids and wrote that then he should be banned, it was completely off topic, a personal attack and blatant trolling made even worse by MM's suspension knowing he cannot retort.
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SlyPokerDog said:
It's not allowable. The insults between BF, Zags, MM and a few others have gotten out of hand, I haven't been paying as close attention as I should and that is my fault. I am talking to BF about these things via PM. She's new and gets some slack. I have spoken with MM publicly and via PMs many times about personal insults. He knows the rule against it because he points out how times people insult him.

I personally disagree about being called stupid is worse than being called a whore. Maybe that's just me but I just wouldn't call a woman a whore. I can't help but think that if someone called MM's wife or daughter a whore he would react far more strongly than if they just called them stupid.
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I prefer Lady myself. However, My Dear or My Dear Lady always gets attention.
 
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