I think people are overreacting to the last couple days

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riverman said:
Swanigan although raw can shoot with range...hustles and rebounds...I watched all his G league games...he's got skills...people act like he's frickin' Hasheem Thabeet around here...I like the kid.
He's like 20 years old...Ed is 28 I think...I wouldn't be surprised to see him develop into a good stretch 4
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Did you also think Meyers could develop into a rotational, or better, NBA player?
 
andalusian said:
Better body, athletic ability, much less of a shooting touch and quite frankly, game smarts. I like Noah, but he is a different player than Biggie. If you could get Biggie's basketball brain and shooting touch in Vonleh's body... look out.
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Vonleh had starter upside. Biggie is a nice kid but end of the rotation with flaws upside IF he develops. No reason to move out a productive rotation big, quality locker room vet for that upside...
 
riverman said:
Swanigan has a contract...right now Vonleh doesn't have a job...if he couldn't crack the Bulls rotation, well...that says something...and I had high hopes for Vonleh…he's a strong dude. He got a shot with the Bulls....didn't make the cut
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Agreed Vonleh doesn't deserve a rotation spot and was a far better prospect than Swanigan.
 
Cippy91 said:
Some people on the forum choose to be super positive about the team all the time and that’s fine but I’m looking at it for what it is. The boogie thing was weird because I never saw woj or anybody else tweet about it and it’s just ironic the only guy who tweeted this out was Haynes who obviously has a past here and has sources here given the fact he knows more about the team than local sports media so yeah it’s a little odd. Who knows if that really happened. I was fine with the draft picks. What I didn’t understand was this whole veteran talk he gave and acquiring them yet we got Seth curry and stauskas? I’m way more positive about the curry signing than the stauskas signing. I think pat is better than stauskas. Quite honestly I’m really uncomfortable with Meyers getting minutes because he’s just bad. I think Ed Davis being let go was a really shit move. This was the last straw for me. 2016 should of been but I have him another chance and he’s not surrounding dame with guys that can compete. Unfortunately this team is stuck in mediocrity for another couple years. Yeah we will make the playoffs but we are first to second round exits at best.
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Yes, some fans will be positive no matter what and some will be negative no matter what.

There are many of us that change our tune based on the action of the front office.

I was a Neil supporter for years but I've finally had enough. We had no chance at a title and were a few losses from the lottery. Playoff seeding was an aberration and very misleading in 2018. This roster is shit and no single move will make us a contender. We are much closer to years of missing the playoffs. Outside Dame/CJ (who are both awesome) we likely have the worst roster in the league.

We need to evaluate when this team tries to take a step to contend or tear everythimg down and rebuild. I don't believe Neil can succeed at either course.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
Yes, some fans will be positive no matter what and some will be negative no matter what.

There are many of us that change our tune based on the action of the front office.

I was a Neil supporter for years but I've finally had enough. We had no chance at a title and were a few losses from the lottery. Playoff seeding was an aberration and very misleading in 2018. This roster is shit and no single move will make us a contender. We are much closer to years of missing the playoffs. Outside Dame/CJ (who are both awesome) we likely have the worst roster in the league.

We need to evaluate when this team tries to take a step to contend or tear everythimg down and rebuild. I don't believe Neil can succeed at either course.
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Not really. We went on 13 game win streak and pulled away like 3 games ahead of everyone else. Then we lost to Grizz, Mavs, Spurs, etc and STILL retained 3 seed. So it wasn't like we eeked it out. We grabbed it by the throat in March and never gave it back. It was a solid accomplishment and not something we just fell into accidentally. And that is why Dame was All NBA First Team.
 
I will admit I overreacted to the first day. I was not a big ED fan I equated him to more of a Pryzbilla lite for his impact on the team. It was who we got immediately after that blew my mind letting ED walk for that scrub. With the Seth signing there has to be something else in the works and I hope it is not Kawhi because he will be a rental and he will not stay he will be a Laker next year. If Neil he doesn't do anything else this year I am not going to understand any of this season and will buy a new pitchfork and torch and erect a windmill near the Rose Garden and wear angry villager clothes.
 
KingSpeed said:
Not really. We went on 13 game win streak and pulled away like 3 games ahead of everyone else. Then we lost to Grizz, Mavs, Spurs, etc and STILL retained 3 seed. So it wasn't like we eeked it out. We grabbed it by the throat in March and never gave it back. It was a solid accomplishment and not something we just fell into accidentally. And that is why Dame was All NBA First Team.
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You can't take away the relevance of the losing streak whule keeping the relevance of the winning streak.
 
BonesJones said:
You can't take away the relevance of the losing streak whule keeping the relevance of the winning streak.
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Absolutely correct, but you can't take away the relevance of the winning streak while keeping the relevance of the losing streak, too.

I'm not saying you are doing that, but many here are.

What does it all mean for the GM. To me, it clearly means that we don't need to "blow it up". However, it also means that shortcomings need to be addressed.
 
The 13 game winning streak in the regular season was awesome and most Blazer fans were on the euphoria train.

4 game losing streak in the Playoffs was depressing because the Playoffs means much more than the regular season. Being the #3 seed with HCA seemed to make it worse because I can't remember the last time a #3 seed was swept.
 
KingSpeed said:
If you're fighting with riverman, you're wrong. He's a grown up Blazers fan. And he really loves his Blazers. He's what, in his 60s? Show some respect. Wow.
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I can't tell - is this intentional irony?

I'm in my 60s. I still have Geoff Petrie's rookie autograph. It is literally impossible for anybody here to have been a Blazer fan longer than me. If I offer up the opinion that NO is not a genius - how much "respect" do you think I will get? Somewhere over the last few seasons, it was decided that those of us who want the team to win are "fake fans". Do you not see how weird that is?

If you ignore the summer of 16, NO has been very hit-or-miss. Add in the debacle of 2016, and he has been a net negative to the franchise. That's not over-reacting to a few days - that is an honest reaction to his entire tenure.
 
oldmangrouch said:
If I offer up the opinion that NO is not a genius - how much "respect" do you think I will get?
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I don't know how much respect you'll get but you'll get a ton of likes around here.....and I don't know why your reply was linked to KS paying me a compliment...I don't have a problem with Olshey…..and get a ton of disrespect because of it...I find that ironic as well...some people though confuse passion with angst. Everyone is welcome to their opinion about the team....I like Chief....not a popular view but it's mine....it goes on and on around here but booing a kid who does nothing wrong but entering a home game...(Meyers...like him or not) does not deserve a lot of respect in my view..booing forum members is getting boring as well
 
riverman said:
I don't know how much respect you'll get but you'll get a ton of likes around here.....and I don't know why your reply was linked to KS paying me a compliment...I don't have a problem with Olshey…..and get a ton of disrespect because of it...I find that ironic as well...some people though confuse passion with angst. Everyone is welcome to their opinion about the team....I like Chief....not a popular view but it's mine....it goes on and on around here but booing a kid who does nothing wrong but entering a home game...(Meyers...like him or not) does not deserve a lot of respect in my view..booing forum members is getting boring as well
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River, its a crazy culture now no matter where. It seems that that advocate tolerance, are the ones that cant tolerate with respect at all. Or if you are on the wrong side of any issue?
 
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