I would do Aldridge and Matthews

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For a three way trade for Bosh and Wiggins. I would do that deal in a heart beat and I'm a huge Aldridge homer. I know for a fact that Aldridge would re-sign in Cleveland as well, since LBJ, Irving and Aldridge would be a better version of the Miami Heat.
 
How would you get both Bosh and Wiggins? Trading LA to Cleve for cap space and then signing Bosh?
 
I expected to come into this thread and see someone wanting to trade LA and mathews for Wiggins/bennet/waiters ect from cleveland but somehow we get Wiggins and Bosh? Sign me up for this never going to happen scenario
 
I wouldn't do Aldridge and Matthews. Good guys, no doubt, and Blazers, but I still don't do men.
 
Upgrade at PF and get a potential star SG? Yeah - who wouldn't do that?
 
You think Bosh is better then Aldridge?

Blue9 doesn't have a high opinion of LA and thinks 18 or 19 PF's are better or as good as LA. Sinobas/Blue9 don't exactly keep it a secret they would rather trade LA then keep him.
 
Blue9 doesn't have a high opinion of LA and thinks 18 or 19 PF's are better or as good as LA. Sinobas/Blue9 don't exactly keep it a secret they would rather trade LA then keep him.

Probably not 18 or 19. But only homers would say LMA is better than Bosh. Bosh really bought into being a 3rd wheel role player, but when he was "the man" the skills and abilities that he showed were better than LMA in nearly every aspect. Bosh is LMA+. The difference isn't HUGE, but it's certainly noticeable.
 
I do. Not by much, but I think Bosh is slightly better than Aldridge across the board.

Maybe 5 years ago. Even Bosh admitted he's not the CB4 anymore he was in Toronto.
 
I could not disagree more... but we will find out this coming season with the "King" gone and Bosh now the man.
 
Here is the problem with that deal a core of Lillard and Wiggins while exciting is not as enticing as a core of Harden, Howard, and Parsons so no Bosh. Now you just traded Matthews and LA for Wiggins and cap space.
 
I do. Not by much, but I think Bosh is slightly better than Aldridge across the board.

They're different players. Bosh is a more versatile defender and probably a better rebounder, but he doesn't have the unstoppable post game that Aldridge has developed.
 
Let's leave Bosh out of this, as he's staying in Miami. So, if you're trading Aldridge, you'd be trading him to the Cavs only. If that happened, we better be getting Wiggins AND Tristan Thompson for a minimum. (Thompson is at least a very good rebounder, even if he can't decide which hand to shoot with.)
 
Probably not 18 or 19. But only homers would say LMA is better than Bosh. Bosh really bought into being a 3rd wheel role player, but when he was "the man" the skills and abilities that he showed were better than LMA in nearly every aspect. Bosh is LMA+. The difference isn't HUGE, but it's certainly noticeable.
Bosh is better defensively, infact id say Bosh is the best defensive PF in the league, and Bosh was damn good on Toronto and put up some incredible numbers but his teams were never top offensive teams and he was hard pressed to make the playoffs in a horrible weak east.
Id take LMA for the Blazers simply because stotts offense is designed around LMA and the pressure and mismatches he causes other teams. That and im not sold on Bosh being able to revort back into a 20+ ppg player who can carry an offense.
If I was starting a franchise from scratch thats a different matter.
 
Maybe 5 years ago. Even Bosh admitted he's not the CB4 anymore he was in Toronto.

He's changed his game, but he's still a more efficient scorer, generally a superior rebounder and (IMO) a better defender.
 
They're different players. Bosh is a more versatile defender and probably a better rebounder, but he doesn't have the unstoppable post game that Aldridge has developed.

His overall scoring efficiency is higher than Aldridge's, though. I don't think the difference is huge, but I'd prefer Bosh slightly over Aldridge. Aldridge is still very good, though.
 
He's changed his game, but he's still a more efficient scorer, generally a superior rebounder and (IMO) a better defender.

He's definitely a better defender, especially in the PnR, I'll give you that.

Rebounding is questionable, especially looking at the last couple of years.

And surely, his efficiency offensively stems from the attention paid to LeBron and Wade, as well as his significantly lower usage rate. Back in his Toronto days he was definitely a more dynamic offensive player, scoring off drives, jumpshots, getting to the free throw line, etc. Last couple of years he's been strictly a jump shooter and he's even admitted that he's not the same player he was before. I guess this season will really prove how much of that talent still remains, since he's probably going to be the first option again.
 
And surely, his efficiency offensively stems from the attention paid to LeBron and Wade, as well as his significantly lower usage rate. Back in his Toronto days he was definitely a more dynamic offensive player, scoring off drives, jumpshots, getting to the free throw line, etc. Last couple of years he's been strictly a jump shooter and he's even admitted that he's not the same player he was before. I guess this season will really prove how much of that talent still remains, since he's probably going to be the first option again.

Sure, but the two go hand in hand. You can't on the one hand ding him for not being the dynamic go-to guy when he had to play with James and Wade and then also dismiss his scoring efficiency because he plays with those two. Playing with other stars has benefits and drawbacks in terms of individual production.

I don't think Bosh meant he's become a worse player or a less talented one. I think he meant he changed his game to fit in Miami. He re-invented himself as a stretch power forward to work off James' and Wade's post-ups and drives.

If his numbers take a significant dive this year, I'll agree that he simply lost his Toronto era ability and he's not better than, or as good as, Aldridge. Right now, though, considering he's continued to play well, especially when the team has needed him to take a bigger role, my default is that he's still as talented as before, just playing differently for the good of the team. I think that's generally the league's view of him, too, since he still seems to be viewed as a max player (though that doesn't say anything as to whether he's better than Aldridge, since LMA would get a max deal on the free agent market too).
 
Sure, but the two go hand in hand. You can't on the one hand ding him for not being the dynamic go-to guy when he had to play with James and Wade and then also dismiss his scoring efficiency because he plays with those two. Playing with other stars has benefits and drawbacks in terms of individual production.

I don't think Bosh meant he's become a worse player or a less talented one. I think he meant he changed his game to fit in Miami. He re-invented himself as a stretch power forward to work off James' and Wade's post-ups and drives.

If his numbers take a significant dive this year, I'll agree that he simply lost his Toronto era ability and he's not better than, or as good as, Aldridge. Right now, though, considering he's continued to play well, especially when the team has needed him to take a bigger role, my default is that he's still as talented as before, just playing differently for the good of the team. I think that's generally the league's view of him, too, since he still seems to be viewed as a max player (though that doesn't say anything as to whether he's better than Aldridge, since LMA would get a max deal on the free agent market too).

I guess the big question will be how he plays this season. I can see both sides of the argument. Still favor LMA though, although I would take Griffin over every other PF right now.
 

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