If Aldridge leaves.... (1 Viewer)

[Natebishop3]

In a world where LMA decides to leave, would you rather:

A) Sign-and-trade for assets

B) Let him walk and use the cap space

C) Hold onto the cap space for next summer

(Wookie is forbidden from posting that Aldridge is staying in this thread because I said "in a world" so his logic is moot.)

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

It depends what the assets are. Expiring contracts + draft picks would be preferable.

 

[MARIS61]

Sign and trade for an equal but younger star, say Kawhi Leonard.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

If picks are involved, definitely a sign and trade, as long as we aren't taking back terrible deals

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Keep the cap space and rebuild. I kind of like having no big expectations to be dashed by injuries.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

I'd only want to be sign and trade partners with one team, the Boston Celtics.

They have the most picks and the best young players available.

 

[Natebishop3]

Keep the cap space and rebuild. I kind of like having no big expectations to be dashed by injuries.

I'm kinda leaning that way. There aren't any free agents this summer that I would really go after, at least nobody that could replace Aldridge.

Let's say we let Aldridge and Wes walk. I think I would also dump Batum at that point. Play Dame, CJ, Leonard and get a nice pick. Then use our cap space next summer. I think Lillard would put up huge numbers as the #1 option next year.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

You could let Aldridge walk, then use the cap space as a dumping ground for other teams where they give up assets to move guys

 

[blue9]

I'd prefer to get assets in return. We could get those undefined assets and still preserve cap space for next summer if said assets expire (or have small salaries: rookie contracts). I've never been a fan of building a team through free agency - that's just not something we're going to be able to do. So cap space, IMO, is overrated - it's best used in lop-sided trades. Draft picks and young prospects are better than cap space.
But obviously all three scenarios are fine by me (duh).

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

You could let Aldridge walk, then use the cap space as a dumping ground for other teams where they give up assets to move guys

That's a pretty good point. Like Miami would give up a 1st to get rid of McBob, Washington would probably Nene and pick for the cap space.

 

[B-Roy]

The historical return for a S&T of an UFA is not great. At most we probably get a useless veteran and a late first.

I'd rather take the capspace and try and grab someone else.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

The historical return for a S&T of an UFA is not great. At most we probably get a useless veteran and a late first.

I'd rather take the capspace and try and grab someone else.

With Boston sitting there (of course it would mean LA wanting to play there) we could get a James Harden S&T like deal.

Expiring Contract vet (Gerald Wallace-BOS, Kevin Martin-HOU)
Young Player (Jared Sullinger-BOS, Jeremy Lamb-HOU)
two first round picks and a second.

 

[B-Roy]

With Boston sitting there (of course it would mean LA wanting to play there) we could get a James Harden S&T like deal.

Expiring Contract vet (Gerald Wallace-BOS, Kevin Martin-HOU)
Young Player (Jared Sullinger-BOS, Jeremy Lamb-HOU)
two first round picks and a second.

The precedent isn't there. Harden was on his rookie deal, he had no choice in the matter. Aldridge is an UFA, it's a pipedream.

Think more of what Cleveland got for LeBron, what Toronto got for Bosh.....

That's the type of deal you're going to get from a S&T.

 

[ThugginPaulyGAllen]

"Cap space for a free agent"

When is the last time we had a free agent come here of LMAs caliber two, three, four years ago?

I'll take anything we can get because we have 1% chance of ever signing a player that could even hold LMAs jock within the next two years. NY, LA, Miami, Chicago are all preferential for marketing purposes. If we were a huge market where players wanna go, sure let him walk. Reality, we arent. We can't just let him go for NADA.

Other than MAYBE Kevin Love towards the end of his career..if he reallllly wants to be back in LO.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

You could let Aldridge walk, then use the cap space as a dumping ground for other teams where they give up assets to move guys

Collect picks and junk players and see what happens.

 

[Blazinaway]

I would prefer a sign and trade to a team with capspace so we could perhaps get back a combo of a pick/young player on a cheap contract AND create significant capspace

 

[ThugginPaulyGAllen]

The precedent isn't there. Harden was on his rookie deal, he had no choice in the matter. Aldridge is an UFA, it's a pipedream.

Think more of what Cleveland got for LeBron, what Toronto got for Bosh.....

That's the type of deal you're going to get from a S&T.

We will only get a good deal if LMA wants to go to a team that can't outright sign him, so I agree. No one who can outright sign him will give us anything other than pennies on the dollar.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

"Cap space for a free agent"

When is the last time we had a free agent come here of LMAs caliber two, three, four years ago?

I'll take anything we can get because we have 1% chance of ever signing a player that could even hold LMAs jock within the next two years. NY, LA, Miami, Chicago are all preferential for marketing purposes. If we were a huge market where players wanna go, sure let him walk. Reality, we arent. We can't just let him go for NADA.

Other than MAYBE Kevin Love towards the end of his career..if he reallllly wants to be back in LO.

We don't need to replace him with another star though. Letting him walk would allow us flexibility, we already have his replacement in Leonard if it happens.

What would happen is we would be able to sign high level role players to surround our core if LA walked. (Guys like Danny Green, Tobias Harris, Omer Asik, Iman Shumpert, Jae Crowder, etc.)

 

[magnifier661]

The precedent isn't there. Harden was on his rookie deal, he had no choice in the matter. Aldridge is an UFA, it's a pipedream.

Think more of what Cleveland got for LeBron, what Toronto got for Bosh.....

That's the type of deal you're going to get from a S&T.

Plus Aldridge would want to go to that city.

Aldridge for K Leonard is about as good as you can get.

 

[BigGameDamian]

It depends what the assets are. Expiring contracts + draft picks would be preferable.

Say the trade was Tyson Chandler, Devin Harris, Charlie Villanueva and the 21st draft pick for Aldridge?

 

[blue9]

Aldridge for K Leonard is about as good as you can get.

The Spurs aren't going to trade Leonard for LMA.

 

[blue9]

Say the trade was Tyson Chandler, Devin Harris, Charlie Villanueva and the 21st draft pick for Aldridge?

Pass - that's one scenario where I'd take the cap space.

 

[oldmangrouch]

IF - and that is a huge IF - you can swing a deal for high draft picks you do a S&T. Otherwise, the S&T is a trap. You won't get enough talent back to replace LMA while cluttering up the roster and blocking a rebuild.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Say the trade was Tyson Chandler, Devin Harris, Charlie Villanueva and the 21st draft pick for Aldridge?

No, wouldn't happen either. You think LA goes to Dallas with no Chandler?

 

[blue9]

Pass - that's one scenario where I'd take the cap space.

Actually, if ALL of the players in that trade are expiring contracts, AND the 21st pick is the best we could do, then I'd do it. But if any of those contracts extend beyond the 15/16 season I wouldn't do it.

 

[magnifier661]

The Spurs aren't going to trade Leonard for LMA.

You never know with the Spurs. But I was just giving the example of the type of 1 player you could get in return.

 

[B-Roy]

Plus Aldridge would want to go to that city.

Aldridge for K Leonard is about as good as you can get.

Honestly, Kawhi Leonard is worth way more than Aldridge.

Also don't know why Aldridge would agree to go to SA if Leonard wasn't there.

 

[B-Roy]

"Cap space for a free agent"

When is the last time we had a free agent come here of LMAs caliber two, three, four years ago?

I'll take anything we can get because we have 1% chance of ever signing a player that could even hold LMAs jock within the next two years. NY, LA, Miami, Chicago are all preferential for marketing purposes. If we were a huge market where players wanna go, sure let him walk. Reality, we arent. We can't just let him go for NADA.

Other than MAYBE Kevin Love towards the end of his career..if he reallllly wants to be back in LO.

We don't have to sign a premier free agent. I don't expect us to.

What we can do, is sign a bunch of good quality guys (like what Atlanta did a few years back), improve depth. Or use it for lopsided trades to try and get draft picks.

 

[magnifier661]

Honestly, Kawhi Leonard is worth way more than Aldridge.

Also don't know why Aldridge would agree to go to SA if Leonard wasn't there.

We can agree to disagree about the value. And as I already mentioned, I'm talking about the caliber of a single player.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

We don't have to sign a premier free agent. I don't expect us to.

What we can do, is sign a bunch of good quality guys (like what Atlanta did a few years back), improve depth. Or use it for lopsided trades to try and get draft picks.

And unlike Atlanta, we already have a true bonafide Closer/Star.