"If BS were currency, Palin could bail out Wall Street herself"

[SodaPopinski]

Ouch.

Even conservatives are starting to lose faith in "The Chosen One"

-Pop

 

[maxiep]

Yep, Sarah Palin is in no way, shape or form ready to be President. Neither was Dan Quayle nor Spiro Agnew.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

Yep, Sarah Palin is in no way, shape or form ready to be President. Neither was Dan Quayle nor Spiro Agnew.

And neither is Obama......scares the hell out of me that he might be our next president. At least Palin could learn while being vice president.

 

[maxiep]

And neither is Obama......scares the hell out of me that he might be our next president. At least Palin could learn while be vice president.

I wasn't in the mood to start a firestorm, but I agree wholeheartedly. He is the least qualified major party presidential candidate in my lifetime. Jimmy Carter was more qualified to be President.

 

[Денг Гордон]

And neither is Obama......scares the hell out of me that he might be our next president. At least Palin could learn while being vice president.

What makes McCain ready to be president, and Obama not? It isn't something that you need to say, go get a degree for, like if you want to practice engineering. You look at these guys, and you say, do they have the competency to be president. Barack Obama flies through that test. The other 3 candidates all struggle through that. Then you look at whose plans you like more, and which would be for America.

Please tell me specifically what makes Obama not ready to lead this country.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

I wasn't in the mood to start a firestorm, but I agree wholeheartedly. He is the least qualified major party presidential candidate in my lifetime. Jimmy Carter was more qualified to be President.

I'm glad you conceeded that Palin does not have foreign policy experience.

And I agree that there should be concern about Obama's experience. He does not have a lot of experience and although I believe he is intelligent, that he does have the country's best interest at heart and think he could be a dynamic leader . . . Obama is a gamble because of his lack of experience.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

What makes McCain ready to be president, and Obama not? It isn't something that you need to say, go get a degree for, like if you want to practice engineering. You look at these guys, and you say, do they have the competency to be president. Barack Obama flies through that test. The other 3 candidates all struggle through that. Then you look at whose plans you like more, and which would be for America.

Please tell me specifically what makes Obama not ready to lead this country.

Right now I am for Obama . . . but what makes Obama ready to be president and Palin not . . . ouch it hurts just typing that.

OK clearly Palin isn't ready to be president, but that is because her experience wreeks of being naive and green (for lack of a better term). But to some level (not Palin level), same could be said about Obama. What has he done to prove he is ready to be president?

 

[mook]

I agree he doesn't have the experience I'd like, too. But he does have a coherence of thought and an ability to communicate that thought, and he's clearly bright. And he easily out-organized Hillary (and from the looks of it McCain).

Is he as unqualified (on paper) as Palin? Maybe. But when you compare any Obama interview to the Palin/Couric interview, it's like saying Brandon Roy was less qualified than Travis Outlaw two years ago. You only needed to watch Roy play (or Obama interview) for five minutes and you can see there's a world of difference there.

 

[PapaG]

I wasn't in the mood to start a firestorm, but I agree wholeheartedly. He is the least qualified major party presidential candidate in my lifetime. Jimmy Carter was more qualified to be President.

Obama sure did a bang-up job yesterday as the "lead" for the bi-partisan meeting in the White House.

I wonder if his ineffectiveness has rattled some of his colleagues, even in spite of their expected partisan talking points today.

 

[AgentDrazenPetrovic]

Obama can speak well!

 

[maxiep]

Obama sure did a bang-up job yesterday as the "lead" for the bi-partisan meeting in the White House.

I wonder if his ineffectiveness has rattled some of his colleagues, even in spite of their expected partisan talking points today.

That's the unreported story. The Democrats let him speak for them, and he blew up any sense of bi-partisanship. Yep, this is a guy who can bring people together.

 

[Dumpy]

I wasn't in the mood to start a firestorm, but I agree wholeheartedly. He is the least qualified major party presidential candidate in my lifetime. Jimmy Carter was more qualified to be President.

How do you define "qualified?" Is it based on his prior jobs, or his understanding of the issues? Obama clearly understands the nuances of all the major issues, so that isn't it. If it is because of his resume, then I submit that there is no correlation between that sort of experience and performace as president. He has no less qualified than Abraham Lincoln, among others.

I'd like to hear Ms. Palin explain her understanding of the issues, in her own words. I have yet to do so.

 

[Dumpy]

That's the unreported story. The Democrats let him speak for them, and he blew up any sense of bi-partisanship. Yep, this is a guy who can bring people together.

this whole thing is weird. The democrats were willing to work with the president on this one. They weren't the problem.

 

[SodaPopinski]

The Democrats let him speak for them, and he blew up any sense of bi-partisanship. Yep, this is a guy who can bring people together.

Obama sure did a bang-up job yesterday as the "lead" for the bi-partisan meeting in the White House.

Sen. Judd Gregg, R-New Hampshire, said Friday afternoon the involvement of McCain and his opponent, Sen. Barack Obama, helped push negotiations forward.

Gee, who should I believe, a leading Republican senator involved in the bailout negotiations or two conservative honks on this board who haven't been in any of the meetings in Washington?

IT'S A TOUGH ONE

-Pop

 

[Nikolokolus]

I watched Palin's interview last night with Katie Couric (part two of ?) and it was painful to listen to. I'm not claiming Obama to be the most experienced or even the best candidate that could have been presented in this election cycle (I was partial to Ron Paul, Joe Biden, and Bill Richardson before the primaries gave us our choices), but as Mook said above, he does at least seem to possess intelligence and the ability to clearly communicate that intelligence ... I'm just hoping he has wisdom to go with it.

 

[PapaG]

Sen. Judd Gregg, R-New Hampshire, said Friday afternoon the involvement of McCain and his opponent, Sen. Barack Obama, helped push negotiations forward.

Gee, who should I believe, a leading Republican senator involved in the bailout negotiations or two conservative honks on this board who haven't been in any of the meetings in Washington?

IT'S A TOUGH ONE

-Pop

Ad hominem attacks. Solid argumentative skills.

Now find me Gregg's exact quote, and also read the rest of the article you posted that talks of the "heated" conversation yesterday in the White House. You know, the one that Obama "led" for the Democrats. Obama was inept, yet McCain gets the blame.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

I watched Palin's interview last night with Katie Couric (part two of ?) and it was painful to listen to. I'm not claiming Obama to be the most experienced or even the best candidate that could have been presented in this election cycle (I was partial to Ron Paul, Joe Biden, and Bill Richardson before the primaries gave us our choices), but as Mook said above, he does at least seem to possess intelligence and the ability to clearly communicate that intelligence ... I'm just hoping he has wisdom to go with it.

Why does everyone keep comparing Obama to Palin? She's not running for President.............?

The other thing that cracks me up is Obama's choice for VP Biden was a horrible choice. I hate Hillary but had he chose Hillary he would have killed McCain/Palin in this election.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Why does everyone keep comparing Obama to Palin? She's not running for President.............?

The other thing that cracks me up is Obama's choice for VP Biden was a horrible choice. I hate Hillary but had he chose Hillary he would have killed McCain/Palin in this election.

I compare Obama to Palin, because there is the very real possibility that she'll be called upon to assume the office of president given McCain's 4 bouts with cancer and his relatively advanced age (for a first term president).

As for Biden, he may have footinmouthitis, but the man is actually a very savvy Senator with a deep knowledge foreign affairs.

I think neither ticket is ideal, but the notion of a President Palin scares the hell out of me more than the prospect of an Obama presidency at this point.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

I watched Palin's interview last night with Katie Couric (part two of ?) and it was painful to listen to. I'm not claiming Obama to be the most experienced or even the best candidate that could have been presented in this election cycle (I was partial to Ron Paul, Joe Biden, and Bill Richardson before the primaries gave us our choices), but as Mook said above, he does at least seem to possess intelligence and the ability to clearly communicate that intelligence ... I'm just hoping he has wisdom to go with it.

It was painful to watch wasn't it . . . and that is saying a lot becauase usally I can watch a good looking female and not care much what she is saying. But for Palin's sake I just wanted the interview to end.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

I think neither ticket is ideal, but the notion of a President Palin scares the hell out of me more than the prospect of an Obama presidency at this point.

Agree. And for me it took McCain down a notch . . . what was with that pick. I like McCain's experience and that he might not always follow the republican party, but is the Palin pick the kind of judgment he is going to show as president?

And yes, there are some scary things about Obama . . . lack of experience and who knows how high he will raise taxes.

But I guess on the bright side, McCain and Obama are not as scary as 4 more years of Bush . . . now that is nightmare scary.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

I compare Obama to Palin, because there is the very real possibility that she'll be called upon to assume the office of president given McCain's 4 bouts with cancer and his relatively advanced age (for a first term president).

As for Biden, he may have footinmouthitis, but the man is actually a very savvy Senator with a deep knowledge foreign affairs.

I think neither ticket is ideal, but the notion of a President Palin scares the hell out of me more than the prospect of an Obama presidency at this point.

Both Biden and Obama have "footinmouthitis". I agree neither ticket is perfect but for now I'm leaning towards McCain/Palin. I would much rather take my chance on a questionable VP rather than a questionable President. Biden could just as easily end up President, and I could see him sticking his foot in his mouth when he talks to Putin.......

 

[mook]

It was painful to watch wasn't it . . . and that is saying a lot becauase usally I can watch a good looking female and not care much what she is saying. But for Palin's sake I just wanted the interview to end.

Bush can garble anything, but at least he knows the basics of how to work a talking point. If somebody grills you on a talking point and you have nothing else to say, say something that has detail that's sort of related to it. Preferably something interesting, because interesting things are at least distracting.

Don't just repeat the same thing over again in a slightly more desperate manner.

Christ, she's the first national politician I can think of who could take pointers from Bush on public speaking.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Both Biden and Obama have "footinmouthitis". I agree neither ticket is perfect but for now I'm leaning towards McCain/Palin. I would much rather take my chance on a questionable VP rather than a questionable President. Biden could just as easily end up President, and I could see him sticking his foot in his mouth when he talks to Putin.......

The difference between Biden's frequent gaffes and Palin's, is that his usually have more to do with mangling lines and saying things in the heat of the moment, whereas with Palin I see someone who has clearly given very little thought to foreign affairs and some of the larger issues facing this country; she seems completely poleaxed when asked to answer things that you would hope she had given some consideration beforehand.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think she's stupid, I just think she's completely in over her head and displays the same kind of intellectual "incuriousness" that marked George W's 8 year run ... only with even less poise.

 

[PapaG]

The difference between Biden's frequent gaffes and Palin's, is that his usually have more to do with mangling lines and saying things in the heat of the moment, whereas with Palin I see someone who has clearly given very little thought to foreign affairs and some of the larger issues facing this country; she seems completely poleaxed when asked to answer things that you would hope she had given some consideration beforehand.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think she's stupid, I just think she's completely in over her head and displays the same kind of intellectual "incuriousness" that marked George W's 8 year run.

Please. Biden believes that FDR was the President and went on "TV" when the market crashed. It's idiotic; there is no other way to sugarcoat it.

 

[DennisRodman]

Well I doubt he would have went on TV if there were only 200 people who owned them lol.

 

[maxiep]

How do you define "qualified?" Is it based on his prior jobs, or his understanding of the issues?

Someone who has the first idea of what it is to run something and knows how to lead. Obama hasn't distinguished himself on either count. He's running a cult of personality based on a failed 40 year old playbook.

Obama clearly understands the nuances of all the major issues, so that isn't it.

What gives you that idea? Bill Clinton knew the issues. Barack Obama sounds great, but says nothing. I've read the "Blueprint For America" and it says squat. Ask Obama about specifics about any issue or how he'd accomplish something, and he offers pablum. He still can't admit The Surge worked. He wanted initially to take all the troops out immediately, then it was more gradual, then less gradual. He actually asked Al-Maliki to delay an agreement so it would happen under his administration.

If it is because of his resume, then I submit that there is no correlation between that sort of experience and performace as president. He has no less qualified than Abraham Lincoln, among others.

The world's a bit more complicated that in was in 1860.

I'd like to hear Ms. Palin explain her understanding of the issues, in her own words. I have yet to do so.

Me too. Right now I think she's unqualified.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Please. Biden believes that FDR was the President and went on "TV" when the market crashed. It's idiotic; there is no other way to sugarcoat it.

Where was anyone sugar coating that gaffe? I agree that was a pretty boneheaded thing to say, but if I had to pick someone getting a fairly minor historical reference all twisted up, over having essentially nothing to say, when asked a direct question relating to things like the economy and foreign relations I guess I'd lean toward being more forgiving of the former than the latter.

Part of Palin's problem is that so little is known of her that all we have to go off right now, formulating an opinion of her, is almost completely dominated by what little we have seen of her in the past few weeks. For good or bad, Biden is a fairly known quantity, so his latest flub falls within the context of a 25 years record of being a public figure.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Part of Palin's problem is that so little is known of her that all we have to go off right now, formulating an opinion of her, is almost completely dominated by what little we have seen of her in the past few weeks. For good or bad, Biden is a fairly known quantity, so his latest flub falls within the context of a 25 years record of being a public figure.

Great point

 

[barfo]

Someone who has the first idea of what it is to run something and knows how to lead. Obama hasn't distinguished himself on either count. He's running a cult of personality based on a failed 40 year old playbook.

So someone who is 'running a cult of personality' doesn't know how to lead? That's pretty contradictory. Cult leaders are indeed leaders, that's why people follow them. You aren't making sense.

He still can't admit The Surge worked.

I saw him tell O'Reilly that it worked far better than expected.

He actually asked Al-Maliki to delay an agreement so it would happen under his administration.

Now you are just repeating right-wing conspiracy theories.

barfo

 

[mook]

Where was anyone sugar coating that gaffe? I agree that was a pretty boneheaded thing to say, but if I had to pick someone getting a fairly minor historical reference all twisted up, over having essentially nothing to say, when asked a direct question relating to things like the economy and foreign relations I guess I'd lean toward being more forgiving of the former than the latter.

Part of Palin's problem is that so little is known of her that all we have to go off right now, formulating an opinion of her, is almost completely dominated by what little we have seen of her in the past few weeks. For good or bad, Biden is a fairly known quantity, so his latest flub falls within the context of a 25 years record of being a public figure.

Really nicely put. He's like that mouthy smart guy you know who sometimes gets drunk and gushes about how hot Barbara Walters is. The Barbara Walters thing is weird, but just yesterday he was explaining to you why the Berretta line of semi-automatic shotguns were the most coveted in the world among elite skeet shooters in Italy.

Palin is the quiet, fiesty-looking hot chick in the corner who you thought might be interesting, but when you strike up a conversation they smile and nod and repeat themselves, and you realize you were a lot happier ogling their legs from across the room.