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I may be in the minority but I like what Palin has to say. Am I anxious to see her as President, hell no she's not ready. But I wouldn't mind seeing her get 4 years under McCain as Vice President. She has refreshing thoughts that haven't been corrupted by her party.
 
How do you define "qualified?" Is it based on his prior jobs, or his understanding of the issues? Obama clearly understands the nuances of all the major issues, so that isn't it. If it is because of his resume, then I submit that there is no correlation between that sort of experience and performace as president. He has no less qualified than Abraham Lincoln, among others.

I'd like to hear Ms. Palin explain her understanding of the issues, in her own words. I have yet to do so.

35 years of age, born an american citizen.

If you're looking at resumes, the most qualified candidate who ran is Bill Richardson, then Rudy, then Romney. The least qualified candidates won ran are McCain, Hillary and Obama (Obama being the least qualified), in that order.

Edit: Biden is right up there with McCain.
 
Bush can garble anything, but at least he knows the basics of how to work a talking point. If somebody grills you on a talking point and you have nothing else to say, say something that has detail that's sort of related to it. Preferably something interesting, because interesting things are at least distracting.

Don't just repeat the same thing over again in a slightly more desperate manner.

Christ, she's the first national politician I can think of who could take pointers from Bush on public speaking.

That's the Ari Fleischer method. I used to love it when the press would ask him the same question over and over and he would give the same answer over and over. It's not being stupid; it's being disciplined.
 
So someone who is 'running a cult of personality' doesn't know how to lead? That's pretty contradictory. Cult leaders are indeed leaders, that's why people follow them. You aren't making sense.

So, before he moved to Guyana, were you working for the "Jim Jones For President" campaign? Not all leaders are worth following.


I saw him tell O'Reilly that it worked far better than expected.

I saw that too, and I saw the multiple times O'Reilly called him on it. He couldn't even bring himself to saying it was a success and it was the right thing to do.

Now you are just repeating right-wing conspiracy theories.

barfo

Is it a "right-wing conspiracy theor[y]" when the source is Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari who was in the meeting with Sen. Obama and Prime Minister Al-Maliki?
 
I may be in the minority but I like what Palin has to say. Am I anxious to see her as President, hell no she's not ready. But I wouldn't mind seeing her get 4 years under McCain as Vice President. She has refreshing thoughts that haven't been corrupted by her party.

I agree that she does have appealing qualities. I would probably feel a bit more comfortable with her if she were in her second term as Governor of Alaska rather than two years in.
 
Is it a "right-wing conspiracy theor[y]" when the source is Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari who was in the meeting with Sen. Obama and Prime Minister Al-Maliki?


Obama himself confirmed it in the New York Times.


Further, according to the New York Times in a report on June 16, Obama himself has confirmed his actions.

Recalling his meeting with Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama said in the Times report, "My concern is that the Bush administration, in a weakened state politically, ends up trying to rush an agreement that in some ways might be binding to the next adminsitration, whether it's my administration or Senator McCain's administration. The foreign minister agreed that the next administration should not be bound by an agreement that's currently made."

Zebari had confirmed in the report that Obama "asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the U.S. elections and the formation of a new administration."

Obama's own quote. Or is this still a "right-wing conspiracy theory"?

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9800EFDF143AF934A25755C0A96E9C8B63&sec=&spon=

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...er+it's+my+administration+or+Senator+McCain's
 
I may be in the minority but I like what Palin has to say. Am I anxious to see her as President, hell no she's not ready. But I wouldn't mind seeing her get 4 years under McCain as Vice President. She has refreshing thoughts that haven't been corrupted by her party.

Laying the ground works for a war with Russia and talking about Putin flying over her house are refreshing?
 
35 years of age, born an american citizen.

If you're looking at resumes, the most qualified candidate who ran is Bill Richardson, then Rudy, then Romney. The least qualified candidates won ran are McCain, Hillary and Obama (Obama being the least qualified), in that order.

Edit: Biden is right up there with McCain.

It seems as though, in your view, a governor is more qualified to be president than a senator.

How would you rank a military general without any political experience?
 
It seems as though, in your view, a governor is more qualified to be president than a senator.

How would you rank a military general without any political experience?

You think military generals don't have political experience?
 
That's the Ari Fleischer method. I used to love it when the press would ask him the same question over and over and he would give the same answer over and over. It's not being stupid; it's being disciplined.

ha, that's not exactly what he does. When he doesn't know the answer, he just recites facts. "Putin. He's Prime Minister. Of Russia. I've met with him several times. He's a good man."
 
It seems as though, in your view, a governor is more qualified to be president than a senator.

How would you rank a military general without any political experience?

Yes, a governor is more qualified to be president, due to executive branch experience, having a chief of staff, having an attorney general, etc., working for him/her.

There are military generals without political experience, perhaps. I don't remember any of them winning.

Ike was military governor of Germany during the occupation.
 
Yes, a governor is more qualified to be president, due to executive branch experience, having a chief of staff, having an attorney general, etc., working for him/her.

There are military generals without political experience, perhaps. I don't remember any of them winning.

Ike was military governor of Germany during the occupation.

Maybe you can go back to Grant and Jackson. I don't know what sort of experience they had.

What about the head of a federal department or agency? They have a chief of staff, an office of general council, a staff of anywhere between 1,000 to tens of thousands, and they are audited and overseen by the inspector general. They make decisions that affect an entire industry. Set an agenda, establish regulations (don't start on that again, please), meet with lobbyists and politicians, leaders of foreign governments, etc. However, they are appointed, not elected, if that matters. They also may only have experience in just one industry and set of related issues, unlike, say, a governor, but that isn't listed as one of your criteria.

For that matter, what about the CEO of a Fortune 500 company?
 
Someone who has the first idea of what it is to run something
McCain has been nothing but a legislator, also. Obama and McCain have the exact same amount of executive experience.
 
You can say a lot about Biden, but you can't deny he's a stand up guy...
 
Laying the ground works for a war with Russia and talking about Putin flying over her house are refreshing?

Palin didn't lay the ground works for a war with Russia. That ground work was laid when the North Atlantic Treaty Organization was formed.

Just sayin'.
 
McCain has been nothing but a legislator, also. Obama and McCain have the exact same amount of executive experience.

Why is it my responsibility to defend McCain? He wasn't my choice from the Republican Party.
 
Maybe you can go back to Grant and Jackson. I don't know what sort of experience they had.

What about the head of a federal department or agency? They have a chief of staff, an office of general council, a staff of anywhere between 1,000 to tens of thousands, and they are audited and overseen by the inspector general. They make decisions that affect an entire industry. Set an agenda, establish regulations (don't start on that again, please), meet with lobbyists and politicians, leaders of foreign governments, etc. However, they are appointed, not elected, if that matters. They also may only have experience in just one industry and set of related issues, unlike, say, a governor, but that isn't listed as one of your criteria.

For that matter, what about the CEO of a Fortune 500 company?

Federal agency? I don't think so.

CEO? You've got one in office now. The VP, too.
 
H.W. Bush was Congressman, CIA director, RNC Chairman, UN Ambassador. That was his experience prior to being named VP in '80.

Not exactly the traditional route to the Presidency.
 
H.W. Bush was Congressman, CIA director, RNC Chairman, UN Ambassador. That was his experience prior to being named VP in '80.

Not exactly the traditional route to the Presidency.

He was first ambassador to China, too.
 
So, before he moved to Guyana, were you working for the "Jim Jones For President" campaign? Not all leaders are worth following.

You are changing the subject. You said he wasn't a leader, and followed that up by saying that he was a cult leader. I was just pointing out the inconsistency of your position.


Is it a "right-wing conspiracy theor[y]" when the source is Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari who was in the meeting with Sen. Obama and Prime Minister Al-Maliki?

Iraqi government officials always tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

barfo
 
Iraqi government officials always tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

barfo

You may want to read my post on the matter, along with Obama's own comments on the conversation.
 
You may want to read my post on the matter, along with Obama's own comments on the conversation.

I read it, I don't think it says what you think it says.

barfo
 
You are changing the subject. You said he wasn't a leader, and followed that up by saying that he was a cult leader. I was just pointing out the inconsistency of your position.

I'm not changing the subject; I'm making a statement about the people that choose to follow Obama.

Iraqi government officials always tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

barfo

Hmm, so everything you disagree with is a "right-wing conspiracy"? You forgot the word "vast", Hillary.
 
I'm not changing the subject; I'm making a statement about the people that choose to follow Obama.

So you agree he is a leader?

Hmm, so everything you disagree with is a "right-wing conspiracy"? You forgot the word "vast", Hillary.

Not sure why you say that. I disagree with you, and I don't think you are a (vast) right-wing conspiracy.

barfo
 
So you agree he is a leader?

Ah, so we're playing lawyer-ball here. Yes, he is a leader. Yes, there are all kinds of leaders. I believe him to be a weak and ineffectual one.

Not sure why you say that. I disagree with you, and I don't think you are a (vast) right-wing conspiracy.

barfo

Because the Foreign Minister has no reason to lie. It makes his boss look bad. You want it to be false, so you claim it to be a "right wing conspiracy". Sometimes the makeup comes off and what you took to bed at night doesn't look so pretty in the morning.
 
Ah, so we're playing lawyer-ball here. Yes, he is a leader.

Very well then.

Because the Foreign Minister has no reason to lie. It makes his boss look bad. You want it to be false, so you claim it to be a "right wing conspiracy". Sometimes the makeup comes off and what you took to bed at night doesn't look so pretty in the morning.

Speaking for yourself, I guess. I wake up with supermodels.

barfo
 
Obamas experience to me is a big factor, the reason is due to lack of experience he comes across as a person conceiving policy on based idealism. Somewhat reminds me of Student elections, where kids running make all these wild promises because they really think they can get some of these things (like a Pizza Hut in the cafeteria) accomplished, not realizing there is no chance it would fly with administration.
 

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