If CLE gets Love . . .

[illmatic99]

Treaty made some sense. LeBron and Wiggins are a generation apart. That wasn't the case of Scottie and Michael. Wiggins mentally and maturity wise may not be ready to win at the level LBJ is ready to win at. Won't be the case with Love.

True, but LeBron's presence should expedite Wiggins' development. Their window might not be long, but it could be better than any they can field with Love instead. Maybe it's just my disdain for Love, but I'd take the potential that AW offers as Minstrel mentioned above.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Lebron mentioned Wiggins as one of his reasons for coming back to Cleveland. I doubt the Cavs trade him.

 

[B-Roy]

Lebron mentioned Wiggins as one of his reasons for coming back to Cleveland. I doubt the Cavs trade him.

Where? He didn't mention Wiggins in his letter.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Where? He didn't mention Wiggins in his letter.

Oops, my bad. I thought he did.

 

[Minstrel]

James will turn 30 in December. You think he is playing solid until he is 40?

Elite players play a long time. Jordan, Malone, Duncan, Abdul-Jabbar, etc. Not every great player will last til 38+, but even if you change it to 6-8 years, I don't think you can just punt on that long and build for 2020.

 

[OneLifeToLive]

One thing about it the Cavs are in such a better position now than where they were when he left. Maybe that was the plan all along. Leave for a few years. Allow them to build back up. Make my return. A blessing in disquise for that franchise. They will be interesting to watch.

 

[blue9]

Treaty made some sense. LeBron and Wiggins are a generation apart. That wasn't the case of Scottie and Michael.

So maybe it's a hybrid of MJ/Pip and The Admiral/The Big FUNdamental? Now THAT'S a scary thought - the dominance of the Bulls with the longevity of the Spurs!

Yes, trade LMA for Wiggins immediately to keep this from happening!

 

[Minstrel]

So maybe it's a hybrid of MJ/Pip and The Admiral/The Big FUNdamental? Now THAT'S a scary thought - the dominance of the Bulls with the longevity of the Spurs!

Or you could compare it to Magic Johnson and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. That worked out well for the Lakers.

 

[blue9]

Or you could compare it to Magic Johnson and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. That worked out well for the Lakers.

I was trying to stick to duos that played similar positions (wings, bigs), but yeah, that works too! Either way we need to split them up!

 

[maxiep]

I can't see the Cavs giving up a player like Wiggins as part of a package to get Love.

 

[Rhal]

Wolves have leverage in the fact that teams will start a bidding war for Love right before FA. No reason to except a deal they think will get better closer to the deadline. Also the cavs would be stupid not to trade Wiggins for love, sure try and keep wiggins but before training camp starts add wiggins to the offer and get Love and have the best team next year.

 

[Minstrel]

Love is still only 25, so it's not like they'd be trading Wiggins for an aging star. Love will be in his prime for pretty much as long as James is a force.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Love should say he will not sign a contact with anybody other than the Cavs just to fuck the Pups

 

[BrianFromWA]

It'd be interesting to see sometimes how players rank other players. For instance, if LBJ had his pick, would he rather have Love over LMA or Bosh or Griffin or Melo? Would CLE give up about the same package for all those guys?

 

[riverman]

Watch what Love plays like next to a real superstar who needs the ball. Next to LeBron he's going to look like a good player and he still won't play a lick of defense. The Cavs are going to be like the Heat, paying a few guys huge salaries and hoping they don't get injured while their bench becomes a ghost town.On another note, this is another OT thread.

 

[Draco]

James will turn 30 in December. You think he is playing solid until he is 40?

My thought is that he has six more years at high level; a window similar to LAs. Dame will be peaked at that time, but LA will be heading down.

There are too many uncertainties to make big decisions about this, but if Cavs get Love (I would swap Wiggins for him, and I bet James would too) and play great (win title), and next years Blazers don't improve, I could see Olshey factoring this into his nuclear option.

Yes I think lbj will be good at 40. He'll still have the size of a PF with great bbiq, shooting, passing. He'll be a tad better than Jordan at 40 which may make him an all-star.

 

[Draco]

I wouldn't give up Wiggins for Love. They have the same playoff experience. I'd offer every other player outside of Kyrie and throw in 5 first round picks the Cavs can trade.

 

[donkiez]

I wouldn't give up Wiggins for Love. They have the same playoff experience. I'd offer every other player outside of Kyrie and throw in 5 first round picks the Cavs can trade.

Gotta agree. Before the draft Love was considered worth a 5-8 pick and some change. Why is he now worthy of the number 1 pick plus change? Wiggins has been one of the most anticipated players to come out of the draft since....... Greg Oden and Lebron before him. You dont just give that potential up even for Love.

 

[TBpup]

Originally Posted by magnifier661 View Post
Would u do Wiggins, Thompson and filler for Aldridge

I probably would, because I usually prefer to bet on upside. Winning a championship is so difficult, it takes winning some gambles. Wiggins brings not only huge upside but also low salary. It would also depend on the filler...as long as the filler wasn't garbage on long-term deals.

I would have to seriously consider it. Players coming into their prime instead of going out of it, more cap flexibility, a potential star which certainly doesn't equal a current star but I've never thought of Aldridge as a superstar anyway. I think Lillard could be and that is who you build around.

This team, with the additions of Kaman and Blake, is not a contender but a nice playoff team. IF the goal is to take a shot at winning a championship, I go with the trade.

Aldridge/Barton
for
Thompson/Bennett/Wiggins/Hopson...
...works CBA wise. Portland would then have to lose a couple of 'suits' but I think it is worth it.

Lopez/Kaman
Thompson/T-Rob
Batum/Wiggins
Matthews/Wiggins
Lillard/Blake/CJ

That is still a playoff team and I think could very well have more potential long term than one anchored with an ageing Aldridge with a massive contract.