If CLEVELAND blows it up do we go after

[Blazinaway]

Varajeo and/or Mo Williams, we have expirings that match and 2 1st rdrs and young guys like Babbit-E Williams-Rudy. Thoughts? I would for sure try to get varajeo.

 

[Rhal]

as much as I don't like them I think we go after both. I'd much rather just keep miller and put Roy on the bench and start mathews. I think Miller/Mathews work togethor better then mo/roy would. We definatly need another viable big who can play both positions so varajeo would be a definate.

 

[¹²³]

Not Varajeo. Varejão.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Not Varajeo. Varejão.

Yes Varejão

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

JJ Hickson is the only player on their roster that I'd want.

 

[Blazinaway]

JJ Hickson is the only player on their roster that I'd want.

you don't think AV would be a welcome addition to our frontcourt? I simply don't and won't count on oden, just can't do that.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

I would love Mo Williams and Andy V on our team.

Varejao would be a great big off the bench/spot starter, while Mo Williams would be a good fit at the guard spot with a healthy Roy

 

[Nikolokolus]

JJ Hickson is the only player on their roster that I'd want.

Hickson is nice, but every team needs an AV. As long as he's surrounded by guys who can score, he does all the little things that win basketball games and doesn't require the ball to be effective. That said that Blazers look a little impotent on offense right now.

 

[Minstrel]

Hickson is nice, but every team needs an AV. As long as he's surrounded by guys who can score, he does all the little things that win basketball games and doesn't require the ball to be effective. That said that Blazers look a little impotent on offense right now.

He'll fit really nicely alongside Oden, once Oden returns.

 

[Blazinaway]

He'll fit really nicely alongside Oden, once Oden returns.

Oden is out of my mind when talking about planning for this team's future, you simply cannot plan or count on him. If he recovers well then maybe we consider him a bonus if he's ever healthy, but IMO you simply have to plan without him and that means getting a reliable C like AV.

 

[Minstrel]

Oden is out of my mind when talking about planning for this team's future, you simply cannot plan or count on him. If he recovers well then maybe we consider him a bonus if he's ever healthy, but IMO you simply have to plan without him and that means getting a reliable C like AV.

I was kidding. Gallows humour.

I don't count on Oden, though I still tuck him away in my mind as a "not impossible, wouldn't it be cool if..."

 

[Blazinaway]

I was kidding. Gallows humour.

I don't count on Oden, though I still tuck him away in my mind as a "not impossible, wouldn't it be cool if..."

LOL, gotcha and agree.

 

[MIXUM]

im sure other teams are thinking about the same blowing up for us

 

[midnight_show]

As unlikeable as Varejao is, at least he's hardens us up.

 

[Blazinaway]

As unlikeable as Varejao is, at least he's hardens us up.

is that a "Kingspeed" joke? LOL

 

[maxiep]

Here's the truly sad thing: we have no hope but to plan for Oden. This entire rebuild after the 2007 draft was predicated on Oden dominating the post.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Here's the truly sad thing: we have no hope but to plan for Oden. This entire rebuild after the 2007 draft was predicated on Oden dominating the post.

Any retooling effort would have to focus on Oden coming back, yes. But if we blow it up too, then anything goes, really. Pick two or three players, keep them, then trade everyone else. If we're in the market to do that, I'm sure some teams wouldn't mind playing along if they're in a similar situation (like Cleveland).

 

[Nikolokolus]

He'll fit really nicely alongside Oden, once Oden returns.

Undoubtedly.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Here's the truly sad thing: we have no hope but to plan for Oden. This entire rebuild after the 2007 draft was predicated on Oden dominating the post.

I refuse to buy that.

If your only hope revolves around a guy who has only played in 82 games out of 328 then you you never really had any hope to begin with. It's time for this management team to get creative and do everything it can to manufacture its own "luck."

What would this team have done if they'd gotten the draft pick thier record indicated they probably should have gotten? Just pack it in and throw up their hands because they ended up with Brandon Wright, Spencer Hawes or Joachim Noah? Lots of teams have managed to field competitive squads without drafting Greg Oden or Dwight Howard.

"Get busy living or get busy dying."

 

[Natebishop3]

I don't know if adding Williams and/or Sideshow Bob would really help us that much. Would it get us to the playoffs? Probably. Would it get us out of the first round? Probably not.

 

[maxiep]

I refuse to buy that.

If your only hope revolves around a guy who has only played in 82 games out of 328 then you you never really had any hope to begin with. It's time for this management team to get creative and do everything it can to manufacture its own "luck."

What would this team have done if they'd gotten the draft pick thier record indicated they probably should have gotten? Just pack it in and throw up their hands because they ended up with Brandon Wright, Spencer Hawes or Joachim Noah? Lots of teams have managed to field competitive squads without drafting Greg Oden or Dwight Howard.

"Get busy living or get busy dying."

I'm not interested in being just "competitive". The 80s and mid 90s Blazers; milquetoast squads that rarely went past the first round of the playoffs with no hope of ever being elite. I'll buy a full rebuild before I buy that.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I'm not interested in being just "competitive". The 80s and mid 90s Blazers; milquetoast squads that rarely went past the first round of the playoffs with no hope of ever being elite. I'll buy a full rebuild before I buy that.

I'm actually a big proponent of blowing it all up rather than trying to limp along with what we have with some minor tweaks, but in the meantime, I think it would make sesne for Cho to flip some of these expiring contracts we have and some of the guys well over thirty for some younger, slightly more dynamic players before they lose all value.

The real trouble is that this team can't really be blown up with Roy's massive contract (the years and the money) and the state of his degenerating knees -- it's an overimplistic analogy but it's something like a fishing boat getting its nets caught in the screws; there's not much you can do to fix it until you get a tow and lift it out of the water.

It's not what anybody wants to hear, but being "merely" competitive is maybe this team's best bet for the next couple of years, minus getting lucky in the lottery and landing a true franchise type player to replace Roy.

 

[maxiep]

Can we redirect the thread to the question: If WE blow it up who does Cleveland go after?

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Can we redirect the thread to the question: If WE blow it up who does Cleveland go after?

Batum definitely, Matthews also, since his contract gets smaller starting next year, maybe Rudy if they can convince him to play for them... they might take a flier on Roy, but I doubt it.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Can we redirect the thread to the question: If WE blow it up who does Cleveland go after?

Easy. Greg Oden.

 

[MickZagger]

Boobie Gibson for the spark off the bench and 3 point shooting and maybe take a flier on Powe. Of course, Varejao as well.