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BrianFromWA said:
I'd try to jump in on the Sac 3-way and give up Nolan to get any one of the 3 (I'm assuming Brooks, Jimmer or Thomas, with Jimmer as my favorite). I'd really like to get Wroten, but MEM probably wants more than I'd give, though they're welcome to the bench (minus Leonard).
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That's the one I hope they stay the hell away from. Like I said before, I really consider Rudy Gay to be addition by subtraction. Bringing a guy like Evans on board would just compound the problems that Rudy was creating.

Another thing that the Grizzlies are allegedly trying to do is shop Zach Randolph. I don't know why, because he's more than worth his contract based on what the top level talents are being paid, but this new owner seems cashed strapped and determined to get under the luxury tax. He's also appointed some new upper management figures that are apparently trying to mess with a good thing just to make a name for themselves, all the while the team continues to pay a ridiculous salary to our lame duck GM.
 
so the Grizz are panicking after getting beat by the lowly Blazers in Memphis? Stay the course, and for godsakes dont trade Randolph!
 
PHXBlazer1 said:
so the Grizz are panicking after getting beat by the lowly Blazers in Memphis? Stay the course, and for godsakes dont trade Randolph!
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With Rudy Gay, his departure is more like a long-time coming sort of thing. The team's better when he's on the bench, so why not trade his albatross of a contract off for some more efficient players, some picks, and some cap relief? That part of it makes sense to me.

The part that doesn't make sense are the allegations about Randolph being on the block, because no one in their right mind would get rid of Z-Bo with the way he's been playing and with the way the city's come to love him.

The whole organization is going through a lot of changes though ever since we had a new young owner buy our squad (with celebrity help from guys like Peyton Manning, Justin Timberlake, and Penny Hardaway... even though you'll never see any of them at the games).

For some reason, the new owner's cleaning house. Our current GM, Chris Wallace, was never great, but he's pretty much a lame duck at this point. This new dumbass owner is putting people like John Hollinger from ESPN in charge, and it seems like they might screw up the good thing we have going. It seems like they don't understand the team we've managed to build up over the five years in the least.
 
I bet your power forward somehow winds up on the Lakers in a heist that gives Memphis jack shit and the Lakers a shot at being relevant.

I've seen this movie already.
 
Thank God we don't have a cheap owner.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/e...zzlies-also-considering-trading-zach-randolph

riz CEO Jason Levien, whom principal owner Robert Pera has entrusted to run the franchise, is gauging the value of several players on the roster. There also have been exploratory trade conversations centered on forward Zach Randolph.

The Sacramento Kings are one of the teams that the Griz recently held preliminary talks with, according to a league source.
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Dudes desperately trying to get under lux tax.
 
NOVoodoo said:
This new dumbass owner is putting people like John Hollinger from ESPN in charge, and it seems like they might screw up the good thing we have going.
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I was pretty shocked to see them hire Hollinger. MEM has really done well in recent years, but I thought that this hire was the first chink in the armor and could lead to their demise.
 
blue9 said:
I was pretty shocked to see them hire Hollinger. MEM has really done well in recent years, but I thought that this hire was the first chink in the armor and could lead to their demise.
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Why? Hollinger's analytics are pretty good and he's just another voice in the room, it's not like he's the HMFIC.
 
Nikolokolus said:
Why? Hollinger's analytics are pretty good and he's just another voice in the room, it's not like he's the HMFIC.
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Exactly why you wouldn't be a good exec..although I appreciate your extensive basketball knowledge
 
the backlash against guys like Hollinger, Babby, Kahn, Cho (even Olshey, if you want to go there) as not being GM material b/c they weren't players or coaches or whatever never made sense to me. Maybe it's b/c I have the analogy that would be dumb if I said "Presidents who haven't been in uniform all their life shouldn't be Commanders-in-Chief, or SECDEFs. Good leadership isn't confined to one part of life.

I, for one, think about 10 people in here would make a heckuva better GM than Isiah Thomas ever would. And not just b/c of basketball knowledge or cap rules or whatever. B/c running a business and empowering good subordinates to do good work and allowing good decisions isn't a basketball thing.
 
BrianFromWA said:
the backlash against guys like Hollinger, Babby, Kahn, Cho (even Olshey, if you want to go there) as not being GM material b/c they weren't players or coaches or whatever never made sense to me. Maybe it's b/c I have the analogy that would be dumb if I said "Presidents who haven't been in uniform all their life shouldn't be Commanders-in-Chief, or SECDEFs. Good leadership isn't confined to one part of life.

I, for one, think about 10 people in here would make a heckuva better GM than Isiah Thomas ever would. And not just b/c of basketball knowledge or cap rules or whatever. B/c running a business and empowering good subordinates to do good work and allowing good decisions isn't a basketball thing.
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Mark Cuban pretty much is the Mav's GM and he couldn't play basketball to save his life. I think he's a fine owner and GM.
 
Do you ever read Hollinger's stuff? He's more than just a bean counter.
 
What would you give up to get Gay if anything?...

Memphis is shopping him.
 
Re: What would you give up to get Gay if anything?...

Not much - and other teams aren't giving much either. A serviceable player and a 1st rounder is what other teams seem to be offering.
 
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Thought about salary cap: PA was known as being a hard liner on salary cap issues and increased luxury tax for going over the cap. I was surprised he took that stance given that the biggest advatage the Blazers have is PA finances and his commitment to trying to win a title.

But maybe, PA wanted a stiffer luxury tax and lower salary cap so many teams will avoid going into the luxury tax and either not pay for players or trade off high salary players. . . all the while PA willing to go over the cap and pay luxury tax. Maybe the new CBA, while very tough on small market teams and cheap owners of big market teams, acutally works to the Blazers advantage.

Time will tell if PA is willing to go over the cap, but with several teams trying to trade players to stay under the cap, including playoff teams, it makes me wonder if PA is the accidental billionaire or a shrewd business man who is thinking one or two step ahead of the others.
 
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