If KP is let go, where does he end up?

[maxiep]

XericX and I arrived at the same conclusion. I think he goes to Cleveland and starts the LeBron sell-job. I think he stands as good of a chance as any other GM of making the case to LeBron that he can build a champion around him.

What do you all think?

 

[julius]

I think Cleveland too.

 

[axs88]

Either Cleveland or NY (asst. GM then Walsh's eventual replacement).

 

[axs88]

Didn't Danny Ferry resign though because Dan Gilbert wanted more say in decisions? In that case I don't think KP would see that as a good situation to get into after all this.

 

[BrianFromWA]

NYC. Spend Dolan's money in a big city. Though I'm not sure if Wojo's feud with him will go away, or just be magnified.

 

[RR7]

NY or NJ.

 

[44Thrilla]

Didn't Danny Ferry resign though because Dan Gilbert wanted more say in decisions? In that case I don't think KP would see that as a good situation to get into after all this.

Do you believe that? I don't. I think Ferry was gonna get canned, but they let him resign to save face.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Do you believe that? I don't. I think Ferry was gonna get canned, but they let him resign to save face.

^^This

That's what "mutually agreed to part ways" means.

 

[axs88]

Do you believe that? I don't. I think Ferry was gonna get canned, but they let him resign to save face.

Oh, of course, but my point was that reports are saying Gilbert is determined to be hands-on with personnel decisions from here on.

 

[masonjab]

I think we get the GM from OK. City

 

[Blazinaway]

I think we get the GM from OK. City

are you Masonjar from Olive?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

He's going to a real professional sports team,

The University of Oregon.

 

[Ed O]

I'm not so sure he steps right into another job--at least not as a GM straightaway. Presumably there is a REASON he'd be let go, and that reason might impact his attractiveness to other teams.

And, let's be real about what he's done as a GM: almost nothing. He spent too much money on Aldridge and wanted to spend WAY too much money on Hedo. He has drafted reasonably well, but he was handed some good, high draft picks and has had access to Allen's millions (to buy picks) so it's not like he spun gold out of straw.

I want KP to stay on as the GM. I think that he's assembled a team that can really be a force in the NBA in the next several years, but we're not really talking about a superstar GM here.

Ed O.

 

[BGrantFan]

And, let's be real about what he's done as a GM: almost nothing. He spent too much money on Aldridge and wanted to spend WAY too much money on Hedo. He has drafted reasonably well, but he was handed some good, high draft picks and has had access to Allen's millions (to buy picks) so it's not like he spun gold out of straw.

I want KP to stay on as the GM. I think that he's assembled a team that can really be a force in the NBA in the next several years, but we're not really talking about a superstar GM here.

Ed O.

You mean other than building a 21-win team into a team with back-to-back 50-win seasons? You're right. He's done nothing. That's why we're exactly like the Clippers, Grizzlies, T-Wolves, Nets, etc. etc. Who is a "superstar" GM? I'd hate to see your critique of Danny Ferry, who basically lucked into a team with LeBron James, or Mark Warkentien, who lucked into Carmelo Anthony.

 

[44Thrilla]

I'm not so sure he steps right into another job--at least not as a GM straightaway. Presumably there is a REASON he'd be let go, and that reason might impact his attractiveness to other teams.

And, let's be real about what he's done as a GM: almost nothing. He spent too much money on Aldridge and wanted to spend WAY too much money on Hedo. He has drafted reasonably well, but he was handed some good, high draft picks and has had access to Allen's millions (to buy picks) so it's not like he spun gold out of straw.

I want KP to stay on as the GM. I think that he's assembled a team that can really be a force in the NBA in the next several years, but we're not really talking about a superstar GM here.

Ed O.

Wow, I admit I'm an outsider, but I couldn't possibly disagree more. I thought the Blazers had one of the ugliest rosters I've ever seen a couple years back. He successfully rebuilt that roster, and he did it quick. Something that most GMs fail at. Sure, they haven't really gone deep in the playoffs yet, but how many GMs in the league have done their job better than him since he took over? 3, maybe 4?

 

[maxiep]

Didn't Danny Ferry resign though because LeBron James wanted more say in decisions? In that case I don't think KP would see that as a good situation to get into after all this.

Fixed.

 

[maxiep]

I think we get the GM from OK. City

How tall are you? You have to be at least 3'6" to post in this forum.

 

[Minstrel]

And, let's be real about what he's done as a GM: almost nothing.
...
I think that he's assembled a team that can really be a force in the NBA in the next several years

Bit of a contradiction. I'm guessing that you massively exaggerated your position in the first line I quoted in order to combat the "In KP I Trust" attitude you dislike so much. You can't possibly reconcile "he's done almost nothing" with "I want him to stay on" (let alone "he's assembled a team that can really be a force" which is a direct contradiction, not merely inconsistent).

He's done plenty, as you stated later in your post. He simply hasn't been perfect and he had plenty of resources with which to work.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

He's going to a real professional sports team,

The University of Oregon.

Finally. A poster with true vision.

 

[Sug]

He will rise from the grave only to demonstrate how all GMs should lead their lives, but not as an earthly being. For he is the GM Jesus!

 

[barfo]

He will rise from the grave only to demonstrate how all GMs should lead their lives, but not as an earthly being. For he is the GM Jesus!

In GM, the G stands for Jesus. And the M stands for the next round.

barfo

 

[SlyPokerDog]

He will rise from the grave only to demonstrate how all GMs should lead their lives, but not as an earthly being. For he is the GM Jesus!

Does that mean that Trader Bob was GM Muhammad?

 

[Ed O]

Bit of a contradiction. I'm guessing that you massively exaggerated your position in the first line I quoted in order to combat the "In KP I Trust" attitude you dislike so much. You can't possibly reconcile "he's done almost nothing" with "I want him to stay on" (let alone "he's assembled a team that can really be a force" which is a direct contradiction, not merely inconsistent).

Nah. I see potential, but the potential is pretty uncertain. As a fan, I have hope, but the hope I feel as a fan doesn't equate to accomplishment that another franchise would bank on.

Ed O.

 

[Ed O]

You mean other than building a 21-win team into a team with back-to-back 50-win seasons? You're right. He's done nothing. That's why we're exactly like the Clippers, Grizzlies, T-Wolves, Nets, etc. etc. Who is a "superstar" GM? I'd hate to see your critique of Danny Ferry, who basically lucked into a team with LeBron James, or Mark Warkentien, who lucked into Carmelo Anthony.

I'm not impressed with Danny Ferry, either, and I don't anticipate him getting a job as a GM any time soon, either.

50 win teams are commonplace. I don't think that building a young team that can't make it out of the first round is something that other team will see as much of an accomplishment.

Ed O.

 

[Denny Crane]

Chicago, please!

 

[Draco]

You mean other than building a 21-win team into a team with back-to-back 50-win seasons? You're right. He's done nothing. That's why we're exactly like the Clippers, Grizzlies, T-Wolves, Nets, etc. etc. Who is a "superstar" GM? I'd hate to see your critique of Danny Ferry, who basically lucked into a team with LeBron James, or Mark Warkentien, who lucked into Carmelo Anthony.

Having an extremely bad team with numerous high lottery picks makes rebuilding easier, not harder. You talk about Cleveland lucking into the #1 pick and Denver getting lucky with the #3, well our Blazers had the same luck in jumping up in a position to draft Durant where they should have been slotted to take Corey Brewer.

I think KP has done an above average job and should get a chance to continue, but the team had a collection of assets and draft picks that any competent GM could have used to greatly improve the roster.

 

[LittleAlex]

Having an extremely bad team with numerous high lottery picks makes rebuilding easier, not harder. You talk about Cleveland lucking into the #1 pick and Denver getting lucky with the #3, well our Blazers had the same luck in jumping up in a position to draft Durant where they should have been slotted to take Corey Brewer.

I think KP has done an above average job and should get a chance to continue, but the team had a collection of assets and draft picks that any competent GM could have used to greatly improve the roster.

I think you are underestimating how hard it is to get players to come to Portland. There have been many, many rumors over the years of players getting really mad about even the possibility of being traded here.

Seriously, if you were a young, wealthy african american male, would Portland be even your 20th choice in places to live?
Not a chance.

As for winning a title, you go to LA to have the best chance at that. That team has been to the finals 33 fucking times, compared to 3 for Portland.

The sad fact is KP got the best players he could.

 

[maxiep]

I'm not impressed with Danny Ferry, either, and I don't anticipate him getting a job as a GM any time soon, either.

50 win teams are commonplace. I don't think that building a young team that can't make it out of the first round is something that other team will see as much of an accomplishment.

Ed O.

Ed, do you really think this is a run-of-the-mill 50 win team? With all the injuries and the integration problems? I put the early season stumble out of the game on Nate, because of his inflexibility and his refusal to call out Roy for not sublimating his game for the good of the team. I also put at least half of our resilience on KP for building such a deep team (the other half goes to Nate for not accepting excuses). And I put 100% of the credit for trading for Camby. I knock KP for being fooled by Hedo, but give him real credit for switching on the fly and finding Miller.

Let's say we make zero changes between today and next year, no draft, no free agents, expiring contracts re-signed for one more year, etc.--in other words, the exact same team, but healthy. I think we're top two in the WC and perhaps the top seed, not some commonplace 50-win team. KP has to receive some, if not the lion's share of the credit for that development from the days of Bassy, Viktor, Charles Smith, Sergei and Ha Seung-Jin.

 

[maxiep]

Having an extremely bad team with numerous high lottery picks makes rebuilding easier, not harder. You talk about Cleveland lucking into the #1 pick and Denver getting lucky with the #3, well our Blazers had the same luck in jumping up in a position to draft Durant where they should have been slotted to take Corey Brewer.

I think KP has done an above average job and should get a chance to continue, but the team had a collection of assets and draft picks that any competent GM could have used to greatly improve the roster.

The issue with your analysis, is that GO has been injured so often that he's actually been less useful than Corey Brewer to this point (although certainly not in the future). He's played 82 games in his career, or 1/3 of his potential games. And those games have seen him trying to integrate himself into the lineup, get himself into basketball shape and learning the NBA game. Worse yet, this team has built much of its future around him, so without him, we're playing with one hand tied behind our back. If we would have drafted Corey Brewer, we could have used RLEC for a specific role, because we'd know what we had in the cupboard.

Believe me, I'm a huge GO fan and expect his bad luck with injuries to be over. Furthermore, I expect him to start dominating the pivot and show everyone why he was worthy of the #1 pick. But to this point, his presence has almost been a detriment for the reasons listed in the previous paragraph. If we would have had the impact of a healthy GO these past three years, this team would be playing the Celtics right now.

 

[craigehlo]

I'd stay in the line if I were him rather than head to the Clippers.