If star players are getting $175 million and $200 million...

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Basketball more so then any other major sport in america is about the Stars. In Baseball the stars are great but they don't outweigh the history of the game nor are there names and likenesses as known, NFL is all about the shield and the teams not the players themselves which probably has a lot to do with the fact the NFL teams are so large and have so many key players on them. The NBA has so few players on the court at any given time and it is a league driven by Stars not by smart analytics or team based play. Team Basketball helps to win games but it does not win championships without those star players. The Players get 50% of the revenue, that never made sense to me. The players ARE what makes the NBA, the NBA does not make the players. If all the players banned together and went and made there own league it would be more watched then the remains of the NBA.
Total disagree, respectfully. The players thought about this during the last lockout. Just because you hoop well doesn't mean you have the bankroll to subsidize a league that will be seen as JV for a decade uuntil you get an AFL deal. plus the arena non-competes mean LeBron would be playing in Columbus. Curry would be hoping to lock in the Stockton Arena. boise may get some action...
 
That's a flawed system, and the league is really fucking over the majority of the players. Teams are going to eat up all their cap space with 2-3 guys and then the rest will be bitter and underpaid.
Only 2-3 players per team actually generate the money.
 
Only 2-3 players per team actually generate the money.

And the victories, to a large extent. Basketball is unique among team sports (at least the ones I'm familiar with--don't lecture me on rollerderby) that one to three players can carry a team.
 
The only thing I think should be done different is that while a contract is 1-5yrs long and there is an amount being paid per year I think the money should be stretched out into equal payments over 20yrs. Far too many players go broke within a few years out of the league. That's an embarrassment. 20 yrs of money coming in hopefully is long enough to save the players from themselves.
that is a great idea. It sucks seeing players you used to look up to file bankruptcy. Dont get me wrong, It would be extremely hard to come into money like that and not be tempted to screw it off. Like you said tho, just something to save them from themselves. Financial advice is one thing, but to actually have ur money held for you is another. I'm sure there would be issue with wanting to have it all now, so that would have to be addressed in the contract. Maybe stating that no option exists for early collection of $$$. Might be a tough one. Extremely doable tho and something that I personally would prefer, if I was in that position.
 
Some of you are being silly.

The salary cap is a 50/50 split in revenue between owners and players. 50/50 is fair. If the owners are going to enjoy a big jump in money coming in then why shouldn't the players?

If the next wave of TV contracts go down then both the players and owners will suffer (lolz) equally.

A decreasing cap actually hurts teams like Golden State and the Cavs so that is good for the rest of the league including us.

The only thing I think should be done different is that while a contract is 1-5yrs long and there is an amount being paid per year I think the money should be stretched out into equal payments over 20yrs. Far too many players go broke within a few years out of the league. That's an embarrassment. 20 yrs of money coming in hopefully is long enough to save the players from themselves.

Interesting, maybe they should just make a mandatory 401k for the players where like a tenth of their income gets put into an account that they cannot access until a certain age?
 
I think the salary cap is essentially working as it should. The most money is funneling toward the marquis players who are selling the game--LeBron, Curry, etc. The role players who fill out the team are still millionaires, but they really shouldn't get anywhere close to the money the stars do. (Should Justin Timberlake's backup singers get paid anywhere near the level he does?) The problem teams like Portland have is when you overspend on role players because you know you can't attract stellar free agents and you aren't drafting low enough to consistently get lottery talent.

If anyone is getting overpaid in this industry, it's the owners. When was the last time you attended a game to watch Paul Allen? The NBA is a cartel that regulates itself to maximize profits for ownership. A true free market would allow hundreds of NBA teams, all paying whatever they want for stars. Instead of a 50:50 spread, the players would get the vast lion's share of profits as teams out-bid each other for talent. (Such a system really isn't feasible for pretty obvious logistical reasons. Scheduling, arenas, etc.)

In a true free market system the money should funnel to the actual scarcity, and that scarcity is talent at the LeBron/Curry level. People who can own a private jet, gymnasium, merchandising, and marketing operations like NBA owners can just aren't scarce--there are thousands of such organizations in America. They only have value because only 30 are allowed to own teams.

Instead, the 30 team limit creates artificial scarcity, which is why a shitty franchise like the Clippers is probably worth $3bil or some such ridiculous number, and why the Knicks can continue to churn ridiculous profits despite years of producing a consistently shitty product (despite all its amazing advantages).
 
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Actually, it's really bullshit that the league has kept the salaries at essentially the same level for.... what.... 20 years? Shaq signed with LA in 1996 for $121 million. That was over 20 years ago. Meanwhile the teams are worth billions of dollars and the owners are getting richer.

The players have been getting screwed.

Baseball has been paying their players significantly more money for a long time. Alex Rodriguez signed with the Texans for $250 million back in 2005. The NBA is just barely catching up to that, and there are fewer players on an NBA team. If a star like ARod was worth $250 million on a team of 9 players in the field, then someone like Curry, or Durant, or LeBron should easily be worth that on a team of 5.

Bush caved in and set the league in panic when his Ranger team agreed to sign ARoD for that outrageous money. All prime sports pays players TOO much and I believe the normal common Joes like us are outraged about the money these guys make. However, your point based on number of team players equating to the $ value is absolutely the way it is. It seems to me the guys in the NHL are on the short end of the pay scale.
 
You make it sound like Turner is making 70 million in 1 year. When that's not the truth.
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? I didn't mention anyone's contract. You need at least 13 guys on your roster. Almost every decent team will have 2 max guys taking up half the cap, that leaves 50 million for the other 11. For an average salary of 4.5 mil. That's why you can't afford to pay your role players that much.
 
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? I didn't mention anyone's contract. You need at least 13 guys on your roster. Almost every decent team will have 2 max guys taking up half the cap, that leaves 50 million for the other 11. For an average salary of 4.5 mil. That's why you can't afford to pay your role players that much.

lol...
It's up there.
turner 70 million.
cap 100million.
You made it sound like turner was making 70million per.
Not my fault you typed that.
 
lol...
It's up there.
turner 70 million.
cap 100million.
You made it sound like turner was making 70million per.
Not my fault you typed that.
That's a quote from someone else honky.
 
Some of you are being silly.

The salary cap is a 50/50 split in revenue between owners and players. 50/50 is fair. If the owners are going to enjoy a big jump in money coming in then why shouldn't the players?

If the next wave of TV contracts go down then both the players and owners will suffer (lolz) equally.

A decreasing cap actually hurts teams like Golden State and the Cavs so that is good for the rest of the league including us.

The only thing I think should be done different is that while a contract is 1-5yrs long and there is an amount being paid per year I think the money should be stretched out into equal payments over 20yrs. Far too many players go broke within a few years out of the league. That's an embarrassment. 20 yrs of money coming in hopefully is long enough to save the players from themselves.

Ask anyone who plays the lottery if they want the lump sum or the annuity.

Riiiight.
 
It'll be interesting to see what the team payrolls will be like in September when FA is over.
 

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