If we sign a big free agent this summer, who would you renounce?

[PtldPlatypus]

Based on this post below, the Blazers will go into free agency with basically 40M in cap space, and the cap holds for the 4 FA's they'll want to keep (Hendo/MyLe/Moe/AC) total about $25M, leaving $15M without releasing a cap hold. If they're fortunate enough to land a big-time free agent, they'll have to renounce at least one of the top three.

Knowing what you know now (and yes, I understand that we may learn more over the next 28 games), if Olshey called you and asked which one of Henderson/Harkless/Leonard should be renounced in order to bring in a free agent, what is your response?

I've updated Post #141 in the Blazers Salary Cap Info thread showing the Blazers projected CAP space for summer 2016 (2016-17 season).

If the CAP is at $92M, it's looking like the Blazers could have up to $39,993,095 of CAP space (if they renounce the rights to all of their free agents.)

The Blazers will have some big decisions with their free agents:
View attachment 7917 Gerald Henderson, $9,000,000 (CAP hold 150% of previous year's salary.)
View attachment 7918 Meyers Leonard, $7,689,700 (CAP hold 250% of previous year's salary.)
View attachment 7919 Maurice Harkless, $7,235,148 (CAP hold 250% of previous year's salary.)
View attachment 7916 Brian Roberts, $3,711,422 (CAP hold 130% of previous year's salary.)
View attachment 7920 Allen Crabbe, $1,215,696 (CAP hold min salary since previous year was min salary.)

The timing of making an offer to Crabbe will be critical since he will for sure get an offer higher than his CAP hold. Since the Blazers have his Bird Rights, they can go over the CAP to match any offer. If he signs an offer sheet from another team early in the process, the Blazer will have 3 days to match, but that could really tie the Blazer hands in other potential offers they would like to make. Hopefully Crabbe agrees to hold off and allow the Blazers to sign him after they have gone after all of the other big signings they want to chase.

The estimated Max contracts will be:
0-6 yr NBA vet, 25% of CAP, $23,000,000
7-9 yr NBA vet, 30% of CAP, $27,600,000
10+ yr NBA vet, 35% of CAP, $32,200,000

 

[illmatic99]

It all depends on our targets. I don't see us being a player in FA as usual, so this might all be moot. If anything, I see more of this asset acquisition stuff where we use capspace to get young players/draft picks.

Gerald for sure. I don't see him as part of our future, and we aren't going to pay him what other teams probably will for him this summer. Harkless is intriguing. I don't see him having a large market out there unless he blows up to finish the season. And his caphold is probably higher than any contract he'll get --makes sense to renounce him as well (and then pay him as a UFA if we want him back). Roberts is not really relevant either way.

We've invested too much time with Leonard to renounce him (and he will get a contract above his caphold #)-- I feel like we'll keep him, even if it's to S&T him. Crabbe's is too small not to keep.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

I think Henderson is the only guy besides crabbe that we can't let go of for nothing.

I wouldn't mind if we resigned harkless for cheap.

I'm pretty much done with Leonard. He is going to het paid too much by some other team and I want no part in that

 

[Denny Crane]

You don't have to renounce anyone until you have an agreement with the FA you want to sign.

If we're about to sign Durant, why would we care which of those guys gets renounced?

My serious answer to the question is Henderson if wing, Leonard if big.

Tho I really like the idea of keeping Henderson if we can.

 

[illmatic99]

If we retain Leonard's and Crabbe's rights, we'll have like 30 mil of space.

Plenty to throw a max at Barnes or Derozan if we so wished. ugh.

Don't forget CJ's max will kick in a year after.

Is a Dame-CJ-Barnes trio at 65 mil, with 0 cap flexibility appealing to any of you?

 

[BlazerCaravan]

I would renounce Satan.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I would renounce Satan.

Damn you, I was just going to post that.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I would renounce Satan.

...but only if we sign a big free agent, right?

 

[BlazerCaravan]

I would seriously renounce two of those three (Meyers, Henderson) without hesitation. I don't see any of those three playing major minutes for the Blazers in a theoretical 2018-2019 Western Conference Finals game 7 against Golden State. Harkless I'm on the fence about but would probably also renounce.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Damn you, I was just going to post that.

Just watched this for the first time last night. So f'ing intense!

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Just watched this for the first time last night. So f'ing intense!

Wait... what? You've never seen the Godfather? Please tell me you're watching the original and not the 7hr Godfather I and II mashup on HBO.

 

[julius]

I would renounce Satan.

Kobe is retiring, we don't need to renounce him.

 

[Pinwheel1]

If I was just picking one, I would renounce the one FA as opposed to either of the two RFA's.
Simply because we could lose Gerald regardless, but we could match Harkless or Meyers if we choose.

 

[julius]

I would renounce Satan.

LaMarcus already left the Blazers, no need to re-renounce him.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Wait... what? You've never seen the Godfather? Please tell me you're watching the original and not the 7hr Godfather I and II mashup on HBO.

...I am watching the 7-hour mashup on HBO...

But in my defense, it's really awesome! It's like a 7-episode season of HBO TV. Okay yeah, they split out Godfather II into two parts on either side of the movie, but Godfather I is just sitting there in the middle.

 

[riverman]

Kamans contract is finished this offseason...that's a roster spot without renouncing anyone

 

[Natebishop3]

I would like to keep Harkless. I think he has a lot of potential and he's still young.

We REALLY should have dealt Leonard and Hendo.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

...I am watching the 7-hour mashup on HBO...

But in my defense, it's really awesome! It's like a 7-episode season of HBO TV. Okay yeah, they split out Godfather II into two parts on either side of the movie, but Godfather I is just sitting there in the middle.

Have you ever seen the Godfather 1 or 2 before? You really need to watch them before seeing the HBO mashup thing. I did watch the HBO thing and liked it, there were some scenes not in either of the original movies that were really enjoyable.

IMO GF2 by itself is much more darker and epic and it is diminished when broken up and shown chronologically. The only reason Coppola reedited the movies into this format is he needed money to finish Apocalypse Now.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Kamans contract is finished this offseason...that's a roster spot without renouncing anyone

We're not talking about roster spots, we're talking about cap space. Un-renounced free agents generate a cap hold that limits the amount of cap space available for signing free agents. As detailed in the OP, at least one, if not more, of our 3 free agents with large cap holds will have to be renounced in order to have enough available cap space to bring in a top-tier free agent.

Now that I have explained that for you, you're welcome to contribute to the thread.

 

[oldmangrouch]

I would renounce Satan.

I was going to say "the Republican presidential field".......but that works too!

 

[riverman]

We're not talking about roster spots, we're talking about cap space. Un-renounced free agents generate a cap hold that limits the amount of cap space available for signing free agents. As detailed in the OP, at least one, if not more, of our 3 free agents with large cap holds will have to be renounced in order to have enough available cap space to bring in a top-tier free agent.

Now that I have explained that for you, you're welcome to contribute to the thread.

So you're saying I should be posting about the Godfather 2...gotcha

 

[riverman]

If it's down to Crabbe or Leonard...I sign Crabbe....there...and Kaman coming off the books does open up cap space..I too renounce Satan just so I can keep up with the required content here

 

[PtldPlatypus]

So you're saying I should be posting about the Godfather 2...gotcha

Please don't--too many Godfather-related posts in my thread and Denny might move it to the OT section.

 

[riverman]

Why isn't Crabbe listed in the poll?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

If it's down to Crabbe or Leonard...I sign Crabbe....there...and Kaman coming off the books does open up cap space..I too renounce Satan just so I can keep up with the required content here

Kaman's departure is already taken into account in the numbers above, and Crabbe's miniscule cap hold is assumed to be kept. The question is between Henderson, Harkless, and Leonard, who comprise $24M of cap holds between them. Crabbe's cap hold is too small to significantly impact cap space.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Leonard. I don't love him, but that may change.

Regardless, that's not the reason we won't sign him. It's because someone is going to offer him $16 mil/year, and Neil won't match.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Please don't--too many Godfather-related posts in my thread and Denny might move it to the OT section.

No worries, I made Denny an offer he can't refuse.

 

[Natebishop3]

Why isn't Crabbe listed in the poll?

Crabbe's cap hold is almost nothing. Renouncing his rights would be moronic.

 

[oldmangrouch]

Why isn't Crabbe listed in the poll?

OK, I'll bite: why would you let Crabbe go and go keep one of those other guys?

 

[BlazerCaravan]

What I WANT... is to keep Crabbe, CJ, Dillard, Davis, Noah, and Plums as our core. No more attempts to trade them.

As for the rest, I could take or leave them, but I'll take the cannoli.