If we trade one of the Lotto picks, which one is more likely to go?

[Blazinaway]

I'd guess the 6th if we can get a very good player with it, perhaps combined with capspace, and perhaps moving down with a later 1st round pick (with the player we get) as well. Thoughts?

 

[Natebishop3]

The 6th definitely holds the most value. We just don't have much to package with it right now. That's the reason why we have so much cap space. We're low on tradeable assets.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

I'm nervous with this draft because of the management in place.

What I fear: going after Paul Milsap and Darren Collison.

This team needs a re-build, not a quick fix.

 

[Natebishop3]

I'm nervous with this draft because of the management in place.

What I fear: going after Paul Milsap and Darren Collison.

This team needs a re-build, not a quick fix.

And that's why we should seriously consider trading Aldridge.

 

[Blazinaway]

The 6th definitely holds the most value. We just don't have much to package with it right now. That's the reason why we have so much cap space. We're low on tradeable assets.

I don't think we need much to package it (the 6th) with - I think packaging it with "capspace" would be a lot of incentive for a team looking to unolad salary for a good draft pick who commands a much, much lower salary

 

[PapaG]

The 6th definitely holds the most value. We just don't have much to package with it right now. That's the reason why we have so much cap space. We're low on tradeable assets.

The 6th has more value than the 11th?

You don't say...

 

[Natebishop3]

I don't think we need much to package it (the 6th) with - I think packaging it with "capspace" would be a lot of incentive for a team looking to unolad salary for a good draft pick who commands a much, much lower salary

I don't think we have the cap space yet.. when do all the contracts run out? I thought July.

 

[THE HCP]

This team needs a re-build, not a quick fix.

Amen to this! Bring in 2 new young studs and let's roll!

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

And that's why we should seriously consider trading Aldridge.

Before his hip issue I'd offer the Wiz LaMarcus (package?) for Wall.

Offering him now fresh out of surgery is a bit insulting to Washington.

 

[Natebishop3]

The 6th has more value than the 11th?

You don't say...

In some cases a team might want a guy that they know will be there around 10 or 11. They'd rather trade for a lower lottery pick than a mid lottery pick like the 6th. Let's say someone is interested in Waiters or Lillard, why trade for the 6th when they can get the 11th and get the same guy?

 

[PapaG]

Would the 1st pick hold more value than the 6th pick?

I'm struggling here.

 

[Natebishop3]

Before his hip issue I'd offer the Wiz LaMarcus (package?) for Wall.

Offering him now fresh out of surgery is a bit insulting to Washington.

Yup, unfortunately you're probably right.

 

[PapaG]

In some cases a team might want a guy that they know will be there around 10 or 11. They'd rather trade for a lower lottery pick than a mid lottery pick like the 6th. Let's say someone is interested in Waiters or Lillard, why trade for the 6th when they can get the 11th and get the same guy?

Oh, OK. You said "definitely", so I guess I got confused on what you meant by "definitely".

So, you didn't mean definitely.

 

[Natebishop3]

Oh, OK. You said "definitely", so I guess I got confused on what you meant by "definitely".

So, you didn't mean definitely.

Do you need to fuck up every thread?

 

[BoomChakaLaka]

Do you need to fuck up every thread?

+1

 

[Blazinaway]

fuckin A guys, go get a room or get laid and take the stress off

 

[PapaG]

Do you need to fuck up every thread?

I got your point after you explained it. Sorry to make a joke about the 6th pick having more value than the 11th pick. Seemed funny to me. You'll have to let me know when you're being serious.

I think the odds of the Blazers keeping both picks are quite small at this point.

As a side note, did anybody notice that one of the three or four GM finalists, Olshey, if a client of Warren LaGarie? Does that rule him out, meaning that it's likely either Morway or Bower?

 

[Natebishop3]

I got your point after you explained it. Sorry to make a joke about the 6th pick having more value than the 11th pick. Seemed funny to me. You'll have to let me know when you're being serious.

I think the odds of the Blazers keeping both picks are quite small at this point.

As a side note, did anybody notice that one of the three or four GM finalists, Olshey, if a client of Warren LaGarie?

Canzano mentioned it recently. Doesn't bode well for Mr. Olshey.

 

[BoomChakaLaka]

If Batum covets too much money - then complete a sign & trade and pick up another draft pick in the deal. For example, sign and trade Batum to Toronto for the 8th pick.

Then, package 8 and 11 and move up in a trade for the #2 - Let Cho build a young team in Charlotte and retain cap space for next year or the year after.

We draft Kidd-Gilchrist (SF) with #2 and Drummond (C) with #6.

THEN, pull out all stops for DWill and sign JJ Hickson.

DWill / Smith / Flynn
Matthews / EWill
Kidd-Gilchrist / Babbitt / 2nd rounder
LMA / Hickson
Drummond / Pryzbilla / Thomas

 

[Natebishop3]

If Batum covets too much money - then complete a sign & trade and pick up another draft pick in the deal. For example, sign and trade Batum to Toronto for the 8th pick.

Then, package 8 and 11 and move up in a trade for the #2 - Let Cho build a young team in Charlotte and retain cap space for next year or the year after.

We draft Kidd-Gilchrist (SF) with #2 and Drummond (C) with #6.

THEN, pull out all stops for DWill and sign JJ Hickson.

DWill / Smith / Flynn
Matthews / EWill
Kidd-Gilchrist / Babbitt / 2nd rounder
LMA / Hickson
Drummond / Pryzbilla / Thomas

We can't sign Batum until after the moratorium, so the trade would have to be a "you pick this guy for us and we'll trade you Batum in July".

 

[PapaG]

If Batum covets too much money - then complete a sign & trade and pick up another draft pick in the deal. For example, sign and trade Batum to Toronto for the 8th pick.

Then, package 8 and 11 and move up in a trade for the #2 - Let Cho build a young team in Charlotte and retain cap space for next year or the year after.

We draft Kidd-Gilchrist (SF) with #2 and Drummond (C) with #6.

THEN, pull out all stops for DWill and sign JJ Hickson.

DWill / Smith / Flynn
Matthews / EWill
Kidd-Gilchrist / Babbitt / 2nd rounder
LMA / Hickson
Drummond / Pryzbilla / Thomas

Would a team that signed Batum to a RFA offer sheet even want a sign-and-trade?

 

[e_blazer]

I don't think we have the cap space yet.. when do all the contracts run out? I thought July.

That's correct. Any trade of the pick before the draft would have to meet salary matching requirements. A trade of one or more picks for an established player without the Blazers taking any contract back could be agreed to in principle, but couldn't be finalized until after the July signing moratorium.

 

[Natebishop3]

That's correct. Any trade of the pick before the draft would have to meet salary matching requirements. A trade of one or more picks for an established player without the Blazers taking any contract back could be agreed to in principle, but couldn't be finalized until after the July signing moratorium.

And then you have to get Batum to agree to sign with Toronto, which he might not want to do. Seems kinda risky, hoping that Toronto will keep to their end of the bargain. I think Nic wants to at least explore free agency and see what he can get.

 

[e_blazer]

And then you have to get Batum to agree to sign with Toronto, which he might not want to do. Seems kinda risky, hoping that Toronto will keep to their end of the bargain. I think Nic wants to at least explore free agency and see what he can get.

Batum can't be traded at all until July since he's on an ending contract.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

I got your point after you explained it. Sorry to make a joke about the 6th pick having more value than the 11th pick. Seemed funny to me. You'll have to let me know when you're being serious.

I think the odds of the Blazers keeping both picks are quite small at this point.

As a side note, did anybody notice that one of the three or four GM finalists, Olshey, if a client of Warren LaGarie? Does that rule him out, meaning that it's likely either Morway or Bower?

I read it the same way you did, Papa. I, too, understood what Nate was getting at after his explanation. #6 is always more valuable than #11, but teams may not be looking to get up to #6 - they like the potential of what they can find at #11 at a lower cost or value.

As for Olshey.... I saw that. They were also talking like maybe Morway was falling out of the running. He's in the running in Orlando, so that may be playing into it. Bower is the one of the 4 I am least thrilled about.

 

[Natebishop3]

I read it the same way you did, Papa. I, too, understood what Nate was getting at after his explanation. #6 is always more valuable than #11, but teams may not be looking to get up to #6 - they like the potential of what they can find at #11 at a lower cost or value.

As for Olshey.... I saw that. They were also talking like maybe Morway was falling out of the running. He's in the running in Orlando, so that may be playing into it. Bower is the one of the 4 I am least thrilled about.

I said value when I should have said demand, or explained what value meant a little better.

 

[Blaze01]

I would say #11...though they probably shouldn't trade either one of them....I just don't see any of the names being mentioned out there as worth what they could get for #6....