OT If you praised Chauncy Billups please raise your hand and take a step forward

[Lanny]

Shoulda' kept Stotts.

 

[blazerkor]

I disagree completely. If the idea was to stay on the treadmill then yeah I guess we should have kept Stotts for a tenth season when he's never won a game past the second round. Instead we got a rookie coach. I like Chauncey, I don't think he's willing to adapt his ideals/schemes to fit the personnel he has. That may be a flaw, or he can work with management to get guys in here that can run his systems. I'm not giving up on him and I step forward with a raised hand praising him for the things I can see him doing.

I'll add this for you. If Dame was this banged up and Stotts was coaching this roster, we would have the same record give or take a game. Dame hasn't been Dame due to an injury. It's hard to compare Stotts with a healthy Dame to Chauncey with, first a shell of Dame and now no Dame at all. Olshey should have been fired first and then the new GM would have undoubtedly fired Stotts and we would have made moves to balance this roster. Due to ownership not firing Olshey in the summer we're behind where we should be but I'm hoping for two or three trades involving starters by the time Dame is back to normal and then we can pass judgment on what this team does while coached by Chauncey from there.

 

[royo]

So you wanted to check if Stotts can improve with his 10th season and gave up on Billups after two months. Logisch. Please come back and start this tread at May.

 

[Mr. Robot]

#1 terry stotts rightfully got fired
#2 give chauncey billups time (its been only 25 games)

 

[crandc]

He wasn't my first choice, but once hired I gave him benefit of the doubt. However, team has regressed since beginning of the year. Not just injuries, others have noticed lack of heart. I don't know what goes on behind the scenes but have to wonder if Billups has lost the team.

 

[FlashWad]

I thought he would be good but yeah hes been definitely disappointing not sure how much of the player effort is on him though ..Sotts had more than enough time here though and was rightfully let go.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Perhaps he needed more than one summer at Ty Lue's basketball camp.

 

[Strenuus]

Stolshey is gone. We have hope.

 

[mook]

The choice was not Stotts vs Billups. It was Stotts vs a dozen other potential coaches including Billups.

I had doubts about Chauncy early on, and they have only gotten worse. I feel like he's lost some of the players (especially CJ and Roco) and our defense somehow looks even worse in spite of dumping Kanter and Melo.

That second issue is the really glaring one. Stotts got the same defensive results out of a much worse defensive rotation, despite all the hype and effort Chauncy has put into defense.

25 games into a season, teams generally are what they are. Bottom 5 defensive teams don't suddenly vault into top 10 (barring a DPOY injury recover).

Yeah, Dame has been injured. But I don't really see how that's an excuse for how shitty our defense is.

Rookie coaches on veteran, playoff rosters should not get a lot of leeway. Especially if they don't have a long track record as an assistant coach. Now that we've fired the GM, I'd be fine with firing Billups as well and moving on to a more proven coach.

I mean, if we did fire Billups does anyone really think he'd get snatched up by another team as a head coach? Do you think we'd have hired him if we'd known our defense would not upgrade at all 25 games in? Time to move on.

 

[HailBlazers]

If CJ and RoCo can't be found good riddance.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

I feel like he's lost some of the players (especially CJ and Roco)

How about if we just lose these two permanently?

 

[BoomChakaLaka]

Forget the injuries - this team is awful!

RoCo = truly awful
Nurkic = guy is a bum
CJ = trade this dribbling fool
Zeller = liked his play Game 1. But we’ve played 25…

Neil was rightfully fired!

defense makes good offense - so Billups is thinking correctly, he’s just got shit for a team!

wholesale changes are needed

 

[Natebishop3]

The error was a five year contract for an unproven coach.

 

[Hoopguru]

The error was a five year contract for an unproven coach.

Do you really think the organization was going to spend big money on a successful proven coach? I think they will control cost going forward and build around younger guys.

 

[Hoopguru]

Cronin should be making moves within next month or so, if not sooner on role players. He's probably going to put out there that if you want Dame come with your best offers.

 

[beast blazer]

I was not excited about the hire, but needed fresh eyes on this team, and im glad hes not afraid to call things out.

 

[illmatic99]

lol

 

[Hoopguru]

Chauncey and the new gm should be able to mold the team with their own players going forward.

 

[Minstrel]

Firing Stotts was fine. Whether Billups is the answer, probably not, but I guess we'll see. We get to be his training job, since he's never been a head coach at any level.

 

[Shaboid]

 

[julius]

Shoulda' kept Stotts.

Why, was there an opening in the custodian staff?

 

[riverman]

I like Stotts....always did...he coached a revolving roster of 170 different Blazer players and kept a positive locker room....guys liked playing for him....I loved Chauncey's leadership in his career and was all onboard bringing him in but it hasn't been seamless and he is a rookie dealing with issues vet coaches don't think about...growing pains. When it comes to Stotts I think he realized he had roster and health issues season after season....last season put 19 different starting lineups on the floor looking to find that chemistry....Chauncey has not developed much offensive strategy so far and hasn't cleaned up the string defense as quickly as I anticipated....honestly I think Stotts would've won more games so far than Chauncey but this season Chauncey has a very huge learning curve....coaching changes are always a crap shoot but I respect Terry Stotts approach to dealing with so much roster instability and injury and still making the dance year after year....fact is we may not make the playoffs this season. The team right now is losing my interest

 

[crandc]

It's not enough to be a good coach in the abstract. Coach and team need to fit. I remember how successful Rick Adelman was in Portland and Sacramento but absolutely bombed at Golden State. Maybe Billups and team as constituted just aren't a good fit.

 

[barfo]

Being a really good player doesn't necessarily make you a really good coach. Episode 982.

barfo

 

[julius]

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Being a really good player doesn't necessarily make you a really good coach. Episode 982.

barfo

25 games into the first year of a coach being a head coach is a horrible way to judge a coach. Episode 1 and 3.

Example: Rick Adelmans first 24 games as the head coach of the Blazers? 9-15

 

[riverman]

I support Chauncey but I've lost the excitement I had preseason about team defensive improvement. Chauncey has a lot of problems to sort out as it is.

 

[royo]

Just a question: What would be Blazers record if Lillard plays on his normal level?
If you want to prise Stotts you can't ignore the fact, that Lillard hero ball was Stotts best weapon to win games.
Now, give Stotts Lillard from this season and let's talk it again.

 

[wizenheimer]

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25 games into the first year of a coach being a head coach is a horrible way to judge a coach. Episode 1 and 3.

Example: Rick Adelmans first 24 games as the head coach of the Blazers? 9-15

then enter, stage left, Buck Williams and Cliff Robinson

 

[riverman]

Just a question: What would be Blazers record if Lillard plays on his normal level?
If you want to prise Stotts you can't ignore the fact, that Lillard hero ball was Stotts best weapon to win games.
Now, give Stotts Lillard from this season and let's talk it again.

Lillard played some of the best defense of his career early during his shooting slump and yes....we're last in defense in the whole league....we're a work in progress right now and there's really no sugar coating it....what would Lillard be like if he skipped the Olympics? There are lots of factors in where we are as a team right now...Roco was much better under Stotts than Billups...that's one factor. He's become a worse defender and he was our best defender

 

[oldmangrouch]

This thread seems rather odd.

The data on Stotts covers 13 years with 3 teams. It is fair to say he is an OK regular season coach and a very poor play-off coach. The data set for Billups is less than half a season. It doesn't take a PHD in math to see that is not a statistically sound comparison.

BTW, don't worry. I am just passing through. The end of the Stotts and Olshey team came way too late for me. Best of luck to those who still care about the team.