OT If you praised Chauncy Billups please raise your hand and take a step forward

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@Lanny as many seasons of this team that you have seen and you're going to take this small sample size to formulate your opinion on the new coach in the new roster? Little it has been playing pretty terrible all season and folks are getting used to hedging on defense. The team also has many new players and is in need of a roster balancing. Be patient.
 
I do think players should not be publicly called out. Keep it in the locker room.
 
BoomChakaLaka said:
Forget the injuries - this team is awful!

RoCo = truly awful
Nurkic = guy is a bum
CJ = trade this dribbling fool
Zeller = liked his play Game 1. But we’ve played 25…

Neil was rightfully fired!

defense makes good offense - so Billups is thinking correctly, he’s just got shit for a team!

wholesale changes are needed
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Funny how so many players got worse after we changed the coach
 
riverman said:
I support Chauncey but I've lost the excitement I had preseason about team defensive improvement. Chauncey has a lot of problems to sort out as it is.
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I imagine you mean pre-preseason. Because in the preseason we were comfortably the absolute worst team in the NBA.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Funny how so many players got worse after we changed the coach
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trying to share the ball more with new teammates has often led to turnovers and transition buckets for the other team....we asked our shooters to pass more who are good shooters but poor passers...that has something to do with it or the fact that playing defense or trying to is taking some lift off their legs on offense....two way players have to be iron men..we haven't been a great passing team since Andre Miller and Nic Batum were Blazers
 
riverman said:
trying to share the ball more with new teammates has often led to turnovers and transition buckets for the other team....we asked our shooters to pass more who are good shooters but poor passers...
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So the coach is asking the players to do what they can't do. Odd thing for a good coach to do - unless you're a high school coach who cares only about teaching, not winning.
 
If Chauncey was a hall-of-fame coach, then I would have no problem with his approach (and probably neither would the players, RoCo included). But he ain't. And yet, he's saying to professionals who have had success: "my way or the highway". Yes, he's the coach, but we've all had bosses who've tried this shit that you know didn't have the expertise to justify their arrogance.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
So the coach is asking the players to do what they can't do. Odd thing for a good coach to do - unless you're a high school coach who cares only about teaching, not winning.
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Chauncey wanted ball movement from guys who've been ISO players for almost a decade.....they have been trying to pass but learning to adapt is costing them points in the meantime. Chauncey has addressed all this stuff clearly..
 
Like Stotts, I believe Billups has been fine... not horrible, not great, and certainly not the main problem.
 
riverman said:
Chauncey wanted ball movement from guys who've been ISO players for almost a decade.....they have been trying to pass but learning to adapt is costing them points in the meantime. Chauncey has addressed all this stuff clearly..
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To be fair, he's just doing what he was hired to do. But the guy who hired him was fired. And the guy who whom Chauncey replaced because his defense was bad... had better defense than Chauncey.

Prediction: the roster's going to get a shakeup and Chauncey's going to be given more receptive players. Good for Chauncey. Stotts could've coached better defense with better defenders, too. And Stotts at least knew how to get a great offense out of these players.
 
e_blazer said:
At this point, getting the roster healthy, particularly Dame, is a much bigger factor than coaching.
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Coaching is flat out going to take time to click with a rookie coach...plus McGowan and Olshey are gone...Chauncey has a lot of pressure coming out of the gate and I'll gladly cut him some slack given the circumstances of this team right now..he has yet to show anyone that he's an elite coach by a long stretch but he could become that...he has the vision at least
 
Billups was never the answer to any of our problems. Not enough experience.

Wrong time to hire him. We should have kept Stotts until we get get a legit upgrade at coach. In fact, we should have been looking for an upgrade on staff for the past 5 years.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Funny how so many players got worse after we changed the coach
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Was it because of the change in coach or the humiliating loss to a disabled Nuggets team in last years playoffs that was the straw that broke the camel’s back? Most of the players saw the writing on the wall after that loss and with the circus surrounding Dame and whether he wants to stay or go it looks all the uncertainty has caught up with the players. Could Billups be better? Of course but hypothesizing that Terry Stotts could’ve done better with this roster is just pure speculation. He had clearly lost the team at the end of his tenure and no coach was going to turn that around. Not Billups. Not anyone.

Also to all of you who are clamouring for the glory days under Terry Fucking Stotts, in the 2019-20 season when the team started 16-24 were y’all calling for his head like you are now with Billups?

Is there more to your bias against Billups than just the team record?
 
royo said:
I think Billups is trying to do something else.
Stotts "great offense" was regular season offense. George Karl. Letting Lillard and CJ play free was not that "great" in playoffs.
So I call bollocks.
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When were we ever beaten by a worse team in the playoffs? Just because we lost in the playoffs doesn't mean we did especially poorly. Even last year when Denver beat us, they were rolling coming into the playoffs even without Murray.
 
brooklynballer said:
Was it because of the change in coach or the humiliating loss to a disabled Nuggets team in last years playoffs
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That's just dumb. I predicted we'd lose 4-2 to the Nuggets, and you know why? Because I looked at the way the Nuggets were playing. Of course they had a better record than us, but it wasn't just because of their play before Murray went down. They were rolling without him. Anybody "humiliated" by that is a jackass.
 
riverman said:
Coaching is flat out going to take time to click with a rookie coach..
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...especially if that rookie coach alienates half the team.

Look: I'm not denying that the team was getting stale, but that's just as much the roster's fault as Stotts. As we're seeing, this team just doesn't have the tools to play great defense. Defense isn't just hard work (no matter how many times idiots repeat that) it's a talent as much as shooting. It's about have a really good court sense, among other things. And we don't have enough players with that talent. Stotts knew this, so he focused on a simple defense that minimized our deficiencies as much as possible, and an offense that squeezed the most out of the kind of scorers we had. Would Stotts have used the same system with a different roster? Almost certainly not: he was the guy who designed the offense for the Nowitzki Mavs when they won the title.

If you really wanted to see if you could get more out of this roster than Stotts did, we should've hired D'Antoni. Given what he did for Jeremy Lin, imagine what he could have done for Dame. But even then, Dame's injury might've fucked that up.

Really we should've blown this up two Summers ago.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
When were we ever beaten by a worse team in the playoffs? Just because we lost in the playoffs doesn't mean we did especially poorly. Even last year when Denver beat us, they were rolling coming into the playoffs even without Murray.
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I know you joking, ma man:) My fav failure goes to NO series.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
We lost to a team with Prime Anthony Davis and Best Perimeter Defender in the League Jrue Holiday. Horrors! The shame of it.
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Our short discussion wasn't about if it was horror (btw, 4:0, it was), but about how great Stotts offense was.
 
royo said:
Our short discussion wasn't about if it was horror (btw, 4:0, it was), but about how great Stotts offense was.
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Stotts' offense was great given what he had to work with. But Phil Jackson and Gregg Poppovich combined couldn't've coached us past New Orleans.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Stotts' offense was great given what he had to work with. But Phil Jackson and Gregg Poppovich combined couldn't've coached us past New Orleans.
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Jesus Christ...
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Stotts' offense was great given what he had to work with. But Phil Jackson and Gregg Poppovich combined couldn't've coached us past New Orleans.
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Stotts offens was quite good for regular season only. And it was Lillard's offense really.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
That's just dumb. I predicted we'd lose 4-2 to the Nuggets, and you know why? Because I looked at the way the Nuggets were playing. Of course they had a better record than us, but it wasn't just because of their play before Murray went down. They were rolling without him. Anybody "humiliated" by that is a jackass.
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I love your revisionist history. The Nuggets limped into the playoffs with a 3-3 record in the six games preceding the start of the playoffs - clearly “rolling” as you put it. They were also without their starting backcourt in Murray and Barton and Blazers got scorched by the perennial all-stars Campazzo and Rivers. GTFO with that garbage you’re spewing.

Since you’re so smart, maybe you and your boy @Tince should team up and submit your application for the vacant GM role with the team. I’m sure you’ll get lots of consideration with your in-depth knowledge of the team and foresight. Maybe your first order of business can be to bring your loverboy Stotts back as coach?
 
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