OT If you won't kiss a trans woman, does that make you transphobic?

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dviss1 said:
If you won't date someone because of their race, it's racism.

Not dating/kissing a Trans is completely different and not homophobic at all.
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Well no it's not homophobic; it's transphobic.

Look our penises like what they like; it's hard enough at our ages getting them hard at all, let alone thinking about something it don't like and trying to get it up.

But it's super simple: if you say won't date someone because they are trans you are being transphobic. If you don't fucking say it like Ginuwine did, and instead say "I haven't ever been attracted to any trans people" then you're not being transphobic. Easy peasy.
 
Spud147 said:
Couple things:

Ginuwine has a "type" and it's not white women but that doesn't make him racist.
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Neither race nor women are the subject of the OP, but thanks for playing.
 
dviss1 said:
If you won't date someone because of their race, it's racism.

Not dating/kissing a Trans is completely different and not homophobic at all.
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Wow.

Probably one of the most racist and homophobic statements I've ever heard.
 
dviss1 said:
So using race to hire someone is racist but using race to not date someone isn't?

THAT'S bullshit.
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Personal attraction is a complicated mix of visual, mental, emotional, physical, psychological factors and experiences.

I can truthfully say my wife is the only person I have ever felt a serious attraction for.

The very idea that someone has to be open to dating someone simply because they are a certain race is racist.
 
MARIS61 said:
I can truthfully say my wife is the only person I have ever felt a serious attraction for but I have made love to all of my guns, even the BB ones.
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*Expanded your statement to be more accurate*
 
SlyPokerDog said:
*Expanded your statement to be more accurate*
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Guns are simply tools, for the general purpose of killing living things for a variety of reasons all related to survival.

Although I hunt to put food on the table and carry to protect my family and myself, I have no "fancy, exotic, or so-called assault" guns nor do I target-shoot very often.

The only inanimate objects I am emotionally attached to are my guitars.
 
Okay I think I got an angle on this:

When someone says "I'd never date a [insert group of people here]" what they're saying is "I'm not willing to treat folks in this group like individual people; I've made a judgment call on the entire group already."

This is literally pre-judging. Prejudice.

Everyone is prejudiced, and some prejudices are more acceptable than others. "I'd never date a trans" is more acceptable than "I'd never date blacks".

But, "never say never" is not a bad way to go about life either. "I'm straight, but if there exists a guy who I find attractive and he was into me, I'd go for it... never say never!" is not prejudiced.

My wife of 15 years was not "my type" when we met ("no fatties!"), and we wouldn't have dated if we hadn't basically been tricked into going on a date by a mutual friend. But we really hit it off and we're not only married but great friends as well. I wouldn't trade her for anyone. All because I never said never.
 
as to the OP....it makes you obsessive about definitions pretty much....choices...do what gives you great joy and fuck the subcategories of the small minded
 
SlyPokerDog said:
I would never kiss a cat.
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That's not what you said last night.

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Is the transgender person in this scenario pre-op or post-op?
 
dviss1 said:
I completely disagree.
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Honestly, I think it would be impossible to be unattracted to an entire race. There might be some black women I'm not attracted to, but then there are some that are fucking hot. For anyone who tells me that they aren't attracted to (insert race here), I can guarantee that there's some girl out there that's smoking hot that would probably change their mind.

When I was younger I preferred blondes, but as I got older I started to find brunettes more and more attractive. :dunno:

It's silly to write off an entire group of women because our tastes change.

The crux of the original issue is this: if someone defines a woman as someone who was born with the biological parts of a female, and they only want to date/kiss/bang a biologically female person, does that make them transphobic?

On the one hand, we can tell everyone that they can't prevent other people from doing what makes them happy. If someone wants to become a man or a woman, more power to them, but on the other hand we can't force people to change how they define anatomy. If someone believes that a man is born with a penis and a woman is born with a vagina/reproductive system, and that is simple biology, then that's really their right. Just as someone becoming trans isn't hurting anyone, if someone is unwilling to date a trans person because they believe that they are not truly the opposite sex, that is also their right.

We can't force people to date someone. That's not one of the inalienable rights that our forefathers spoke of. You can't claim discrimination because someone doesn't find you attractive, because if we could, I can guarantee that there would be a lot of nerds filing complaints against the prom queen.
 
Yes.

The only disqualifier is that the person is trans, therefore you are basing the decision based on that, ergo you are transphobic.
 
Spud147 said:
Tolerance - that should be the word for 2018.

I knew we were really in bizarro world when Caitlyn Jenner didn't support gay marriage because she was just a traditional woman. What?!? :crazy:
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I fucking hate that word. That should NOT be the word of 2018 because it sucks.

"I'm tolerant of the gays"

How the fuck does that even sound?? No. The word is "accepting".

You accept people for who they are because you can't change them people shouldn't want to. Live and let live.

It's even part of the serenity prayer.

God grant me the serenity to accept the things I can't change.

@MarAzul??
 
Natebishop3 said:
Honestly, I think it would be impossible to be unattracted to an entire race. There might be some black women I'm not attracted to, but then there are some that are fucking hot. For anyone who tells me that they aren't attracted to (insert race here), I can guarantee that there's some girl out there that's smoking hot that would probably change their mind.

When I was younger I preferred blondes, but as I got older I started to find brunettes more and more attractive. :dunno:

It's silly to write off an entire group of women because our tastes change.

The crux of the original issue is this: if someone defines a woman as someone who was born with the biological parts of a female, and they only want to date/kiss/bang a biologically female person, does that make them transphobic?

On the one hand, we can tell everyone that they can't prevent other people from doing what makes them happy. If someone wants to become a man or a woman, more power to them, but on the other hand we can't force people to change how they define anatomy. If someone believes that a man is born with a penis and a woman is born with a vagina/reproductive system, and that is simple biology, then that's really their right. Just as someone becoming trans isn't hurting anyone, if someone is unwilling to date a trans person because they believe that they are not truly the opposite sex, that is also their right.

We can't force people to date someone. That's not one of the inalienable rights that our forefathers spoke of. You can't claim discrimination because someone doesn't find you attractive, because if we could, I can guarantee that there would be a lot of nerds filing complaints against the prom queen.
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SportsAndWhine said:
Okay I think I got an angle on this:

When someone says "I'd never date a [insert group of people here]" what they're saying is "I'm not willing to treat folks in this group like individual people; I've made a judgment call on the entire group already."

This is literally pre-judging. Prejudice.

Everyone is prejudiced, and some prejudices are more acceptable than others. "I'd never date a trans" is more acceptable than "I'd never date blacks".

But, "never say never" is not a bad way to go about life either. "I'm straight, but if there exists a guy who I find attractive and he was into me, I'd go for it... never say never!" is not prejudiced.

My wife of 15 years was not "my type" when we met ("no fatties!"), and we wouldn't have dated if we hadn't basically been tricked into going on a date by a mutual friend. But we really hit it off and we're not only married but great friends as well. I wouldn't trade her for anyone. All because I never said never.
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The problem with this is that you’re treating homosexuality as if it was a choice. “If I ever met a man that I was attracted to I’d go for it.” I have yet to meet a gay person who decided to be gay. They just realized, some at an early age, that they were attracted to the same sex.

I personally can recognize when another man is attractive, but I have never been attracted to another man. Never felt the old loins stir at the sight of another dude. I don’t have any control over that, any more than a gay person had control over who they are attracted to.

We don’t call people homophobic simply because they’re not attracted to gay people. That’s not how phobia works. So why would someone be transphobic if they’re not attracted to or interested in dating trans people? What if a guy wants to find someone to have kids with? Relationships have ended because one person or the other doesn’t want to have kids, or can’t have kids. It’s a pretty common reason for people to date and eventually marry.
 
Look, I'm not attracted to:

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I get it. But to say you're not attracted to:

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or

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And YES THIS IS FUCKING GORGEOUS...

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Kinda kills me. And makes me look at you like... :dry:
 
Natebishop3 said:
The problem with this is that you’re treating homosexuality as if it was a choice. “If I ever met a man that I was attracted to I’d go for it.” I have yet to meet a gay person who decided to be gay. They just realized, some at an early age, that they were attracted to the same sex.

I personally can recognize when another man is attractive, but I have never been attracted to another man. Never felt the old loins stir at the sight of another dude. I don’t have any control over that, any more than a gay person had control over who they are attracted to.

We don’t call people homophobic simply because they’re not attracted to gay people. That’s not how phobia works. So why would someone be transphobic if they’re not attracted to or interested in dating trans people? What if a guy wants to find someone to have kids with? Relationships have ended because one person or the other doesn’t want to have kids, or can’t have kids. It’s a pretty common reason for people to date and eventually marry.
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I'm literally saying the opposite of what you interpreted. I'm saying that attraction is not binary, it's a spectrum, just like gender isn't one or the other but a spectrum. What I was trying to say is that assuming no guy will ever be attractive to me and saying that loudly is to deny myself the possibility that a guy exists that I do find attractive (not by choice but by nature), and that the only choice I'm making is not to deny myself this reality because of some prejudice against gay sex or men or whatever.
 
I'm transphobic, homophobic, and a racist.
Man learning so many things.

Some of you really do make me facepalm with topics like these.
I don't even believe you actually think this way, I think you're just posting to get a reaction.
 
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