If you're leaning toward voting for President Obama...

[maxiep]

...I'd be interested in the positive reasons why. Not why you will likely vote against Romney, but why you will likely vote for President Obama.

It's going to be a negative election, so we may as well have a discussion as to the positives of each candidate.

 

[drexlersdad]

90% of elections go to the person with the most money, so may the richest man win

 

[barfo]

...I'd be interested in the positive reasons why. Not why you will likely vote against Romney, but why you will likely vote for President Obama.

It's going to be a negative election, so we may as well have a discussion as to the positives of each candidate.

Sure, I'll play along. Saved the economy, saved GM, got healthcare reform passed, got bin Laden, got us out of Iraq, winding down Afghanistan, DADT/gay marriage... he's been pretty successful at stuff I think is important.

barfo

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Sure, I'll play along. Saved the economy, saved GM, got healthcare reform passed, got bin Laden, got us out of Iraq, winding down Afghanistan, DADT/gay marriage... he's been pretty successful at stuff I think is important.

barfo

I agree with most of the list except saving the economy. How do you figure he "saved" the economy?

 

[barfo]

I agree with most of the list except saving the economy. How do you figure he "saved" the economy?

ARRA, aka the stimulus.

barfo

 

[PapaG]

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Romney likes to say that "Europe isn't even working in Europe". He's right when it comes to European countries who have tried austerity. Countries that have used stimulus have been fine. And among the most fine are the most "socialist" - particularly Sweden. And Paul Krugman has been saying all along that what was wrong with the stimulus was that it was too small.

In other words: what barfo said.

 

[PapaG]

Romney likes to say that "Europe isn't even working in Europe". He's right when it comes to European countries who have tried austerity. Countries that have used stimulus have been fine. And among the most fine are the most "socialist" - particularly Sweden. And Paul Krugman has been saying all along that what was wrong with the stimulus was that it was too small.

In other words: what barfo said.

So you're voting for Obama because he didn't pass a large enough stimulus? Seems odd, considering the debt and deficits that his first mistake (not passing a larger one) have added to the treasury. Seems like that would be a reason to vote against Obama to me.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

I have to admit I have no good thoughts about either candidate.

 

[mook]

Sure, I'll play along. Saved the economy, saved GM, got healthcare reform passed, got bin Laden, got us out of Iraq, winding down Afghanistan, DADT/gay marriage... he's been pretty successful at stuff I think is important.

barfo

It's a good list, although I'm not satisfied with how some of this went down (would've liked a public option on health care, would have liked us out of Iraq/Afghanistan sooner, would've liked much stricter regulations on Wall Street and some prosecutions). But overall I feel like he got a shitty hand and he did maybe not the best he could with it, but he did well enough.

In particular, I think in 10 years Republicans are really going to regret the Obamacare label. History has shown that these kinds of health care reforms become massively popular wherever fully implemented. Republicans score short-term political points with the label, but it will haunt them. Few average Americans associate popular programs like the Interstate Highway System or NASA or Medicare or Social Security with one party. But universal health care reform will forever be known as a Democratic program.

I'd add to barfo's list the idea that we need to balance out the Supreme Court with more moderate justices. As wildly as Romney has swung in the past on issue after issue, there's actually a chance he might buck his party and go with more liberal picks despite everything he's said during the election. But I'd rather not take the chance on what kind of person he decides to be today.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

In particular, I think in 10 years Republicans are really going to regret the Obamacare label. History has shown that these kinds of health care reforms become massively popular wherever fully implemented.

I doubt it. In 7-10 years we will have a single national healthcare system.

 

[chris_in_pdx]

I doubt it. In 7-10 years we will have a single national healthcare system.

One would hope.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I doubt it. In 7-10 years we will have a single national healthcare system.

 

[Denny Crane]

 

[Denny Crane]

 

[Denny Crane]

Obama/Biden 2012.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

QE3..coming soon..like clockwork. :MARIS61:

 

[MARIS61]

Sure, I'll play along. Saved the economy, saved GM, got healthcare reform passed, got bin Laden, got us out of Iraq, winding down Afghanistan, DADT/gay marriage... he's been pretty successful at stuff I think is important.

barfo

I was determined to go 3rd party due to Obama's continuation of the Cheney erosion of our civil rights, his war on marijuana, his ambivalence toward the 2nd amendment..., but frankly there's no 3rd party I can take seriously. They're all whack jobs.

Romney is a complete anti-American douchebag who will hopefully be in jail before November, but I could never vote for a Republican anyway, even if they were competent and honest.

And barfo points out Obama has probably been the strongest, most successful President in my lifetime when it comes to accomplishing what he promises, which were all very important deeds IMO.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

To be honest, I don't know too much about either of them besides the basic stuff, but there's just no way I could vote for Romney, so I'll most likely be voting for Obama.

 

[maxiep]

Just to be clear, I'd prefer if people wish to trash President Obama that they do it in another thread. I'm interested in reading a positive defense of President Obama's record. I want to see why they support him, not why they hate the other guy.

 

[mook]

I doubt it. In 7-10 years we will have a single national healthcare system.

I wish it were true. I'd love to have Medicare for everybody and just end the debate. But I doubt this very much. The insurance lobby has far too much at stake in making sure it continues to exist.

 

[mook]

It's no reason to vote for the guy, but this shot made me laugh:

 

[Masbee]

I wish it were true. I'd love to have Medicare for everybody and just end the debate. But I doubt this very much. The insurance lobby has far too much at stake in making sure it continues to exist.

You do realize that medicare for everyone would collapse the primary care system?

Medicare is a disaster that pays full (crazy) price for some services and as little as ten percent for others.

It simply can't work as currently constructed.

 

[PapaG]

It's no reason to vote for the guy, but this shot made me laugh:

Those random moments on the Kiss Cam are the best!

 

[MARIS61]

You do realize that medicare for everyone would collapse the primary care system?

Medicare is a disaster that pays full (crazy) price for some services and as little as ten percent for others.

It simply can't work as currently constructed.

It pays realistic prices. What it doesn't cover is ridiculously overpriced.

 

[Masbee]

It pays realistic prices. What it doesn't cover is ridiculously overpriced.

You are stunningly clueless.

 

[MARIS61]

You are stunningly clueless.

Educate yourself about the differences in prices that Americans pay for the same services and drugs by simply going over the border to Canada, and then what they pay in the US, then post.

 

[blazerboy30]

To be honest, I don't know too much about either of them besides the basic stuff, but there's just no way I could vote for Romney

Totally logical.

/green font

 

[oldguy]

Sure, I'll play along. Saved the economy, saved GM, got healthcare reform passed, got bin Laden, got us out of Iraq, winding down Afghanistan, DADT/gay marriage... he's been pretty successful at stuff I think is important.

barfo

I'd agree that he probably got OBL.
For better or worse, he did seem to save GM.

Saved the economy is a huge stretch, since it's still in the crapper.
Got us out of Iraq a year after the date he promised to.
He said health care would not be given to illegal immigrants, but it does. It is going to cost twice what he said it would.

Not to be negative, but I'll vote for anyone but President Obama.

Go Blazers

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Mittens and Rush sound so desperate this week. Rush is now resorting to comparing Obama with movie villains.