Iguodala (again)
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Rose played against them.
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You mean the team that just demolished the Suns in Phoenix? How did the Blazers do in Phoenix again?
Of course, Kyrie Irving (who will beat Rubio for rookie of the year, spoiling what would otherwise have been 3-in-a-row ROYs for players from the 2009 draft - to be followed next year by Claver) is also demonstrating what PGs can do for a team.
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As MickZagger said, you're wrong: Rose played 42 minutes in that game. And Rubio was +3 in that game - so the Wolves with Rubio on the floor beat the Bulls, consistent with my claim.
...except when Rubio is on the floor for them.
(Incidentally, somebody has made a video just of Rubio in that Bulls game.)
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Rubio has been very impressive. Yes being a rotational player on a winning team can be evidence of good play, but its not the be all end all. Just one metric of many that point to the productivity of a player. There are horrible players on great teams and great players on horrible teams.
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I have a feeling that once the scouting on Rubio comes back; he won't be as productive as his stats are early in this season. Not comparing him to "Sergio" in terms of talent; but Sergio had that great penetration and kick out pass that opened a lot of scoring opportunities. Once teams realized he couldn't make a lay-up; they just let him drive to the rim and get the rebound or play the passing lanes. Sergio became a "non-factor" because they took away his strength.
Now obviously Rubio is different because of his ability to shoot the ball; but he will have a weakness. And once an experienced team is successful against him; the other teams will follow suit. He may end the season with very average numbers. Hey may end with great ones. I'm gonna hold my opinion until the end of the season on just how "Real" he truly is.
He's a rookie, with little scouting. It would be nice if he keeps it up. I love when a player proves the world wrong.
Now obviously Rubio is different because of his ability to shoot the ball; but he will have a weakness. And once an experienced team is successful against him; the other teams will follow suit. He may end the season with very average numbers. Hey may end with great ones. I'm gonna hold my opinion until the end of the season on just how "Real" he truly is.
He's a rookie, with little scouting. It would be nice if he keeps it up. I love when a player proves the world wrong.
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Every rookie hits the wall, but frankly the gulf in talent between he and sergio is so wide that it makes the comparison almost meaningless. This kid is special. he plays D, his passes are Kidd-like and as you mentioned, so far he's shown he can shoot it a little bit. He's going to either be the the rookie of the year or the runner-up. He's going to be really, really good -- scouting or not.
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Well I am a fan of players proving all the sport professionals wrong. And he can manage to keep this up; then I'm all for it.
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I see a lot of stupid posts about stupid trade proposals.
If ya don't like em come up with something you think is better. If you aren't interested in speculating on trades go to a different thread, nobody is forcing you to read this one
If ya don't like em come up with something you think is better. If you aren't interested in speculating on trades go to a different thread, nobody is forcing you to read this one
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Yeah I agree, I've been very impressed. His court vision and control of an offense is great. It's a rare gift, many players have the size, or quickness, or shooting, or defense to play the PG position but very few can put their teammates in good positions to score. Thats why theres so many Jerryd Bayless or Ben Gordon or similar tweener guards that just can't be a good PG. Maybe teams learn how to defend him better from scoring, or his shooting efficiency drops. But to be an impact player long term Rubio doesn't have to continue to be this good of a scorer as has been, he just has to not be terrible at it. Rubio is also a good defender.
Sergio was a terrible shooter and scorer and poor defender which ultimately led to his demise. You have to be more then a one dimensional passer, see Omar Cook.
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I see a lot of stupid posts about stupid trade proposals.
If ya don't like em come up with something you think is better. If you aren't interested in speculating on trades go to a different thread, nobody is forcing you to read this one
Nope. I'd rather comment on how stupid they are.
I try not to criticize anyone individually which is why I stated I see a lot of stupid trade proposals. I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings...
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Well since no one said all of their losses are close, what is your point?
