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...very compelling retort.

You know when you have marzy as he will typically make a post like above and then disappear. He thinks he knows more the DOJ when it comes to investigations and the laws. :biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:
 
You know when you have marzy as he will typically make a post like above and then disappear. He thinks he knows more the DOJ when it comes to investigations and the laws. :biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:


...as do most Trumpets.
 
Thanks Obama!

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/08/2...isthian-rivera-24-living-in-us-illegally.html

Mollie Tibbetts murder suspect ID'd as Cristhian Rivera, 24, living in US illegally
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By Nicole Darrah | Fox News
Man in US illegally charged with murder of Mollie Tibbetts
An illegal immigrant from Mexico stands accused of killing college student Mollie Tibbetts and dumping her body in an Iowa cornfield — after he accosted her during a July 18 jog and she threatened to call police.

Cristhian Bathena Rivera, 24, was charged with first-degree murder Tuesday in Tibbetts' death, officials confirmed.

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Cristhian Bahena Rivera, 24, was charged with first-degree murder Tuesday in the death of Mollie Tibbetts, a missing 20-year-old college student from Iowa. (Iowa Department of Public Safety)

Authorities said Rivera, who lived in the rural Poweshiek County area, is being held on a federal immigration detainer. He's believed to have been in the area for four to seven years.

The body of Tibbetts, a 20-year-old University of Iowa student, was found Tuesday in a field covered with corn stalks. Her father and two sources confirmed to Fox News on Tuesday morning that Tibbetts was found dead; investigators said later in the day they were working to formally identify the body.

MOLLIE TIBBETTS, UNIVERSITY OF IOWA STUDENT FOUND DEAD: A TIMELINE OF EVENTS

Investigators said they used surveillance footage to track down Rivera. The video showed Tibbetts jogging in a rural area near her hometown of Brooklyn, and also showed Rivera's car. She was last seen around 7:30 p.m. on July 18 after she went for a jog around a neighborhood in Brooklyn.

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Mollie Tibbetts murdered: Timeline of events
Tibbetts' family pleaded for her safe return and had remained hopeful she would be found alive. Her father, Rob, previously told Fox News that "somebody knows something."

Brooklyn, according to her father, is a small city and “you can’t do anything there without someone seeing it.”

Iowa's Division of Criminal Investigation received more than 4,000 tips during the investigation, and had roughly 30 to 40 investigators working on the case.

Investigators followed "hundreds" of those leads — interviewing several hundred people and canvassing a nearby hog farm, cornfields and other properties for traces of the college student. Two items Tibbetts typically took with her — a Fitbit and cellphone — remained missing.

Investigators announced last week that they were focusing the search on five locations in and around Brooklyn, which included a car wash just a block away from the city’s main commercial strip and a TA truck stop next to Interstate 80, which runs across the entirety of Iowa.

Brooklyn, a town of just 1,400 people, was shaken by Tibbetts' disappearance. Blake Jack, the brother of Tibbetts’ boyfriend, told Fox News on Aug. 8 there was no sign of a struggle at the Brooklyn home she was staying in at the time.

Dalton, Tibbetts' boyfriend of two years, said he believed the doors of the home where his girlfriend last stayed had been left unlocked.

“It’s Brooklyn. You don’t lock your doors,” Dalton said. “We lock our doors now. Every night.”

Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds called Tibbetts' death "heart-wrenching," and said that Iowans "are angry that a broken immigration system allowed a predator like this to live in our community."

"Mollie Tibbetts, our hearts are broken," Republican Iowa Rep. Steve King tweeted Tuesday. "We all prayed for your safe return. May you now be with the Lord and your family one day find a peace. Justice must now be served. RIP Mollie."

Fox News' Katherine Lam and Lillian LeCroy contributed to this report.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/gop-fund...-iowa-murder-suspect-204700619--politics.html
 
The jobs would be pretty much unfilled.

Jobs do not remain unfilled. Employers pay what it takes to fill the position.

If there's money to be made, money will be spent to make it.

That's Capitalism in a nutshell.

Only by adding slavery to the equation (illegal aliens) does the employer avoid paying good wages.

Only bought and paid for politicians aid and abet in the continuation of slavery creation in America.
 
Actually wages typically go up when unemployment is low as companies have to compete for the skilled workers. When unemployment is high wages will typically go down because of the glut of available workers and people need jobs. Basic economics 101. Did you miss that class.

Sailors are a sarcastic bunch.

In case you missed it. :cheers:
 
LOL, Forbes, propaganda from the 1%.
Of course it's propaganda, it goes against the Messiah of Trump's base by telling the truth. These folk treat the truth the way Dracula treats a cross.
 
19 foreign nationals charged with illegal voting during 2016 election
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By Alex Pappas, Jake Gibson | Fox News

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Nineteen foreign nationals have been charged with illegally voting in the 2016 election, the Justice Department said Friday. (Reuters)

Nineteen foreign nationals have been charged with illegal voting in the 2016 election, the Justice Department said Friday.

The defendants are from numerous countries, including Mexico, the Dominican Republic, Nigeria and Germany.

Some of them were charged in an indictment handed down by a federal grand jury in Wilmington, N.C. They were accused of filing a false claim of citizenship in order to register, and then voting.

Others were charged separately for illegally voting.

The announcement comes amid an intense debate at the state level over voter fraud and efforts by Republican lawmakers to impose voter ID restrictions.

President Trump has long claimed widespread voting fraud took place in the 2016 election, an assertion that has not been substantiated. But Democrats argue voting fraud is not a widespread problem.


"It's not a conspiracy theory, folks," Trump said in April, claiming millions voted illegally in 2016.

Trump ordered the creation of a voting fraud commission after taking office, but disbanded it earlier this year after saying certain states refused to provide information.

Those charged in the latest plots, according to the DOJ, include:

  • Jose Cruz Solano-Rodriguez, age 41, of Mexico
  • Guadalupe Espinosa-Pena, age 63, of Mexico
  • Sarah Emilia Silverio-Polanco, age 35, of the Dominican Republic
  • Elizabeth Nene Amachaghi, age 44, of Nigeria
  • Maria Rufina Castillo-Boswell, age 31, of Philippines
  • Dora Maybe Damatta-Rodriguez, age 64, of Panama
  • Elvis David Fullerton, age 54, of Grenada
  • Olive Agatha Martin, age 71, of Guyana
  • Kaoru Sauls, age 54, of Japan
  • Jose Jaime Ramiro-Torres, age 52, of El Salvador
  • Juan Francisco Landeros-Mireles, age 64, of Mexico
  • Alessandro Cannizzaro, age 46, of Italy
  • Dieudonne Soifils, age 71, of Haiti
  • Hyo Suk George, age 69, of Korea
  • Merius Jean, age 54, of Haiti
  • Rosemarie Angelika Harris, age 60, of Germany
  • Daniel Tadeusz Romanowski, age 39, of Poland
  • Diana Patricia Franco-Rodriguez, age 26, of Mexico
  • Ramon Esteban Paez-Jerez, age 58, of Dominican Republic
The Justice Department said the grand jury also returned an indictment against a 20th person, 66-year-old Denslo Allen Paige, for allegedly aiding and abetting another defendant, Espinosa-Pena, in falsely claiming United States citizenship in order to register to vote.

The cases are being investigated by a taskforce in North Carolina led by Immigration and Customs Enforcement - Homeland Security Investigations, and assisted by Enforcement Removal Operations, and the Department of State - Diplomatic Security Service.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...with-illegal-voting-during-2016-election.html
You only need to dig up another 2,999,981 to 4,999,981 illegal Hispanic voters to substantiate Trump's claim.
 
You know Cup, I have to hand it to you. Not only are you correct in the above, but I actually find you one of the honest persons in this forum. Where many of the liberal people, in this forum, not all, but many are two-faced phonies that only pretend to be civil principled people. You on the other hand, have always been straight forward about being and asshole. No pretenses, you put is straight out there, time after time.

I don't expect Sly will let it stand, but perhaps you will get to see it before he messes with the message. It is somewhat of a complement and it truly is my assessment of you, not intended to be and insult at all.

I took out the ignorant part but left the grammar mistake and the asshole.
 
I find I must offer one slight modification to Cup's statement though. I make no claim to know the actually combined accumulation of statutes and precedent that makes up the law better than the DOJ and it's political hacks that pollute the place.

But I do know from historical study and logical deduction, what the original intent was in the beginning. This is not what they are administering today. Anyone with a lick of sense could find this truth on their own as well.

You all know in your heart when you allow logic to prevail that the intent was to select a chief executive, the President, by election by the people, State by State. It was not intended to provide and alternative route to change the result by handing power to hinder and defame to a group of insiders, that have no accountability to the people. This has no reference in the Constitution and cannot be a logical deduction by and honest man. An honest government can not have people in any position of power that does not have a boss with the power to fire them, or they are not answerable to the people via the ballot box whereby they can be dismissed.
We have this right now in the Special Prosecutor and his boss, Rosenstein. That pair is viewed by the losers in the electorate as outside the power of the one person designated to hold executive power in our government. Nor do they ever answer to the people directly or indirectly. This can not be correct.
 
I took out the ignorant part but left the grammar mistake and the asshole.

So we can't call people clueless but marzy can continue to keep calling posters assholes. Nice to know that is allowed. I will be sure to use it in my response. :curse::curse:
 
You know Cup, I have to hand it to you. Not only are you correct in the above, but I actually find you one of the honest people in this forum. Where many of the liberal people, in this forum, not all, but many are two-faced phonies that only pretend to be civil principled people. You on the other hand, have always been straight forward about being and asshole. No pretenses, you put it straight out there, time after time.

I don't expect Sly will let it stand, but perhaps you will get to see it before he messes with the message. It is somewhat of a complement and it truly is my assessment of you, not intended to be and insult at all.

GFY asshole. :biglaugh:
 
An honest government can not have people in any position of power that does not have a boss with the power to fire them, or they are not answerable to the people via the ballot box whereby they can be dismissed.
We have this right now in the Special Prosecutor and his boss, Rosenstein. That pair is viewed by the losers in the electorate as outside the power of the one person designated to hold executive power in our government. Nor do they ever answer to the people directly or indirectly. This can not be correct.

You are right that what you said is not correct. Rosenstein can fire Mueller. And Trump can fire Rosenstein - whenever he wishes. He's too scared to do so - but he does have the power.

barfo
 
So we can't call people clueless but marzy can continue to keep calling posters assholes. Nice to know that is allowed. I will be sure to use it in my response. :curse::curse:

I gave him a pass this one time. I felt bad over the multiple posts of his I nuked yesterday.

Since his only wish was to have you see that post I will no go back and delete it so no one else will see it.
 
I gave him a pass this one time. I felt bad over the multiple posts of his I nuked yesterday.

Since his only wish was to have you see that post I will no go back and delete it so no one else will see it.

Hell, I couldn't care less what he posts about me as I certainly have no respect for the guy and from appearances not many do. I just want consistency and fairness when it comes to what you mods do.
 
Seen on twitter:

Undocumented immigrants commit crimes at a considerably lower rate than the election campaign staff of Donald J. Trump.

barfo
 
"One in fifteen prisoners incarcerated in Oregon are illegal aliens, and a whopping 50 percent are in jail for sex crimes.

According to a study called “Oregon Department of Corrections: Criminal Alien Report December 2017” by David Cross, 6.60 percent of the prison population in Oregon is comprised of illegal aliens.

Once again, the most concerning aspect of this study is why exactly these illegal aliens are serving prison time.

According to Cross, nearly 50 percent of all illegal aliens in state prisons are serving time for sex crimes."
http://www.oregonir.org/issues/nearly-50-percent-illegal-aliens-state-prison-are-sex-offenders

"Illegal aliens also commit more than 100 homicides in the state, as well as other violent crimes."

That is 100 that need not be repeated.
 
"One in fifteen prisoners incarcerated in Oregon are illegal aliens, and a whopping 50 percent are in jail for sex crimes.

According to a study called “Oregon Department of Corrections: Criminal Alien Report December 2017” by David Cross, 6.60 percent of the prison population in Oregon is comprised of illegal aliens.

Once again, the most concerning aspect of this study is why exactly these illegal aliens are serving prison time.

According to Cross, nearly 50 percent of all illegal aliens in state prisons are serving time for sex crimes."
http://www.oregonir.org/issues/nearly-50-percent-illegal-aliens-state-prison-are-sex-offenders

"Illegal aliens also commit more than 100 homicides in the state, as well as other violent crimes."

That is 100 that need not be repeated.

What are the # of US Citizens who are in prison for sex crimes? How many homicides are committed by non illegals every year? By whites, blacks, etc.

I suspect that the source you linked it not exactly the most unbiased source in the world, since their whole shtick is anti immigrant.
 
If it is a Measure 11 or other serious crime we make them serve their time here before deporting them.

If it's not we convict them and then deport them.

So yes, you are going to see a high percentage of illegals in prison for doing some really fucked up things.

But there is no reason to pay the $33k per year to incarcerate someone for theft only to deport them immediately after they serve their time. It's better just to deport them now and be done with it.
 
You only need to dig up another 2,999,981 to 4,999,981 illegal Hispanic voters to substantiate Trump's claim.

So you're saying voter fraud is okay with you, as long as most of them aren't caught? :dunno:
 
If it is a Measure 11 or other serious crime we make them serve their time here before deporting them.

If it's not we convict them and then deport them.

So yes, you are going to see a high percentage of illegals in prison for doing some really fucked up things.

But there is no reason to pay the $33k per year to incarcerate someone for theft only to deport them immediately after they serve their time. It's better just to deport them now and be done with it.

Or we could just build the wall, staff the border patrol adequately, aggressively prosecute and deport anyone who slips through.

And arrest and prosecute any government official, or citizen, who obstructs justice by providing sanctuary.

You know, like a Real Country would.
 
Or we could just build the wall, staff the border patrol adequately, aggressively prosecute and deport anyone who slips through.

And arrest and prosecute any government official, or citizen, who obstructs justice by providing sanctuary.

You know, like a Real Country would.

What are the Real Countries that have walls on their borders?

barfo
 
"One in fifteen prisoners incarcerated in Oregon are illegal aliens, and a whopping 50 percent are in jail for sex crimes.

According to a study called “Oregon Department of Corrections: Criminal Alien Report December 2017” by David Cross, 6.60 percent of the prison population in Oregon is comprised of illegal aliens.


Once again, the most concerning aspect of this study is why exactly these illegal aliens are serving prison time.

According to Cross, nearly 50 percent of all illegal aliens in state prisons are serving time for sex crimes."
http://www.oregonir.org/issues/nearly-50-percent-illegal-aliens-state-prison-are-sex-offenders

"Illegal aliens also commit more than 100 homicides in the state, as well as other violent crimes."

That is 100 that need not be repeated.

...so we're prioritizing and focussing on only 3.30% of Oregon's sex crimes instead of the other 96.7% ?...yeah, that makes sense.
 

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