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It means Tijuana has changed since the 1960's. Duh!
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Migrant caravan at US border is harboring more than 500 criminals, Homeland Security claims
By Greg Norman | Fox News
The U.S. Customs and Border Protection closed lanes to add 'port hardening materials' as nearly 3,000 migrants from caravan arrive in Tijuana, Mexico; William La Jeunesse reports.
More than 500 criminals are traveling with the migrant caravan that’s massed on the other side of a San Diego border crossing, homeland security officials said Monday afternoon.
The revelation was made during a conference call with reporters, with officials asserting that "most of the caravan members are not women and children". They claimed the group is mostly made up of single adult or teen males and that the women and children have been pushed to the front of the line in a bid to garner sympathetic media coverage.
“All legal options are on the table and we have been negotiating with all our partners in central America with ways to deal with the caravan," one official said when asked about reports that the U.S. government is planning to make asylum-seekers remain on the Mexican side of the border while their claims are being reviewed.
Homeland Security officials say there are currently 6,000 people in Tijuana waiting to be processed at the San Ysidro border crossing, with more on the way.
Those who have already entered the border city in the past few days have been met with an icy reception. The group's members are also coming to the realization that they could be stuck on that unwelcoming side of the fence for months if they try to enter America the legal way.
Adding to the increasing certainty of the group’s situation, the U.S. Border Patrol temporarily closed all northbound lanes at the San Ysidro Port of Entry early Monday morning as the U.S. continues to "position additional port hardening materials.
"Unfortunately, some members of the caravan are purposely causing disruptions at our border ports of entry," Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen posted on Twitter. "There is a legal and illegal way to enter the U.S. We have deployed additional forces to protect our border."
Given the increasing attention on the caravan, and the insistence by top U.S. officials that the migrants will not simply be allowed to enter the U.S., the crowds in Tijuana reportedly may end up having to wait six months for their asylum claims to be heard.
U.S. border inspectors are already processing only about 100 asylum claims per day at Tijuana's main crossing to San Diego, according to the Associated Press. Asylum seekers are registering their names in a tattered notebook managed by migrants themselves that had more than 3,000 names even before the first members of the leading caravan started arriving last week.
Tijuana Mayor Juan Manuel Gastélum – who has referred to the arrivals as “bums” and questioned whether a referendum in the city of 1.6 million is needed to determine whether or not they should be allowed to stay – reportedly estimated the migrants may have to wait six months for their asylum claims to be processed.
The Mexican Interior Ministry announced Friday that just under 2,700 Central American migrants have applied for asylum in Mexico under a program launched late last month that pledged to provide them with work and living permissions faster.
Yet officials anticipate the migrant caravan arrivals in Tijuana will soon swell in excess of 10,000 people – and will need to be housed for an extended period of time – which the Mexican government says it lacks the resources for.
The majority of migrants, who have been on foot for more than a month, are sleeping on a dirt baseball field at an outdoor sports complex in Tijuana by the newly-fortified barbed wire fence that separates Mexico from the United States.
And they haven’t gotten a warm welcome from the residents of Tijuana.
On Sunday, hundreds of locals gathered around a monument in the city to protest the migrants’ arrival, waving Mexican flags and chanting "Out! Out!” the Associated Press reported.
"We don't want them in Tijuana," protesters were reported to have shouted.
Juana Rodriguez, a housewife, told the AP that the Mexican government needs to conduct background checks on the migrants to make sure they don't have criminal records.
A woman who gave her name as Paloma also lambasted the migrants, who she said came to Mexico in search of handouts. "Let their government take care of them," she told video reporters covering the protest.
Fox News’ Jake Gibson, Hollie McKay and the Associated Press contributed to this report.
By Greg Norman | Fox News
The U.S. Customs and Border Protection closed lanes to add 'port hardening materials' as nearly 3,000 migrants from caravan arrive in Tijuana, Mexico; William La Jeunesse reports.
More than 500 criminals are traveling with the migrant caravan that’s massed on the other side of a San Diego border crossing, homeland security officials said Monday afternoon.
The revelation was made during a conference call with reporters, with officials asserting that "most of the caravan members are not women and children". They claimed the group is mostly made up of single adult or teen males and that the women and children have been pushed to the front of the line in a bid to garner sympathetic media coverage.
“All legal options are on the table and we have been negotiating with all our partners in central America with ways to deal with the caravan," one official said when asked about reports that the U.S. government is planning to make asylum-seekers remain on the Mexican side of the border while their claims are being reviewed.
Homeland Security officials say there are currently 6,000 people in Tijuana waiting to be processed at the San Ysidro border crossing, with more on the way.
Those who have already entered the border city in the past few days have been met with an icy reception. The group's members are also coming to the realization that they could be stuck on that unwelcoming side of the fence for months if they try to enter America the legal way.
Adding to the increasing certainty of the group’s situation, the U.S. Border Patrol temporarily closed all northbound lanes at the San Ysidro Port of Entry early Monday morning as the U.S. continues to "position additional port hardening materials.
"Unfortunately, some members of the caravan are purposely causing disruptions at our border ports of entry," Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen posted on Twitter. "There is a legal and illegal way to enter the U.S. We have deployed additional forces to protect our border."
Given the increasing attention on the caravan, and the insistence by top U.S. officials that the migrants will not simply be allowed to enter the U.S., the crowds in Tijuana reportedly may end up having to wait six months for their asylum claims to be heard.
U.S. border inspectors are already processing only about 100 asylum claims per day at Tijuana's main crossing to San Diego, according to the Associated Press. Asylum seekers are registering their names in a tattered notebook managed by migrants themselves that had more than 3,000 names even before the first members of the leading caravan started arriving last week.
Tijuana Mayor Juan Manuel Gastélum – who has referred to the arrivals as “bums” and questioned whether a referendum in the city of 1.6 million is needed to determine whether or not they should be allowed to stay – reportedly estimated the migrants may have to wait six months for their asylum claims to be processed.
The Mexican Interior Ministry announced Friday that just under 2,700 Central American migrants have applied for asylum in Mexico under a program launched late last month that pledged to provide them with work and living permissions faster.
Yet officials anticipate the migrant caravan arrivals in Tijuana will soon swell in excess of 10,000 people – and will need to be housed for an extended period of time – which the Mexican government says it lacks the resources for.
The majority of migrants, who have been on foot for more than a month, are sleeping on a dirt baseball field at an outdoor sports complex in Tijuana by the newly-fortified barbed wire fence that separates Mexico from the United States.
And they haven’t gotten a warm welcome from the residents of Tijuana.
On Sunday, hundreds of locals gathered around a monument in the city to protest the migrants’ arrival, waving Mexican flags and chanting "Out! Out!” the Associated Press reported.
"We don't want them in Tijuana," protesters were reported to have shouted.
Juana Rodriguez, a housewife, told the AP that the Mexican government needs to conduct background checks on the migrants to make sure they don't have criminal records.
A woman who gave her name as Paloma also lambasted the migrants, who she said came to Mexico in search of handouts. "Let their government take care of them," she told video reporters covering the protest.
Fox News’ Jake Gibson, Hollie McKay and the Associated Press contributed to this report.
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500? Is that all? I've heard there were Millions of MS13, ISIS, murderers and rapists not to mention drug mules. By the way, they're all carrying ebola, yellow fever, polio, VD, the plague, dengue fever, typhoid, TB, Aids, malaria and zika.
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Hillary 4.0!
This is hilarious. She still doesn't get it, and never will.
Hillary Clinton: Europe 'needs to get a handle on migration' in order to halt rise of rightwing populists
By Andrew O'Reilly | Fox News
Hillary Clinton said during an interview with The Guardian that the one million migrants and refugees that have flooded into European Union nations since 2015 have thrust immigration into the spotlight and fueled the rise of hardline leaders around the globe. (Reuters)
Hillary Clinton has issued frank advice to European leaders: If you want to stop the rise of rightwing populists then get a handle on your immigration crisis.
Clinton, the 2016 Democratic presidential nominee, said during an interview with The Guardian that the one million migrants and refugees that have flooded into the European Union since 2015 have thrust immigration into the spotlight and fueled the rise of hardline leaders around the globe. And while she praised German chancellor Angela Merkel for her compassion, she cautioned that countries can’t leave the door open forever.
“I think Europe needs to get a handle on migration because that is what lit the flame,” Clinton said regarding the rise of rightwing populists like Hungary’s Viktor Orbán.
Clinton added: “I admire the very generous and compassionate approaches that were taken particularly by leaders like Angela Merkel, but I think it is fair to say Europe has done its part, and must send a very clear message – ‘we are not going to be able to continue provide refuge and support’ – because if we don’t deal with the migration issue it will continue to roil the body politic.”
MIGRANT CARAVAN GIVEN OPTIONS AS OFFICIALS KICK OFF JOB FAIR IN TIJUANA
Countries like Germany, Greece and Italy – which have been most affected by the influx of migrants – have argued that other nations throughout the region need to share in the burden. But the other countries, especially those in central and eastern Europe, have so far refused to help out.
Migration numbers have dropped precipitously from their height in 2015.
Clinton was one of three politicians interviewed by the Guardian, along with former British Prime Minister Tony Blair and former Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi, about the rise of rightwing populism and what center-left politicians are struggling to combat it.
The two former prime ministers both agreed with Clinton’s statement that the immigration issue was directly responsible for fueling the populist trend.
“You’ve got to deal with the legitimate grievances and answer them, which is why today in Europe you cannot possibly stand for election unless you’ve got a strong position on immigration because people are worried about it,” Blair said. “You’ve got to answer those problems. If you don’t answer them then … you leave a large space into which the populists can march.”
Clinton singled out President Trump’s use of immigration as an issue to rally his base of support on the campaign trail and as one of the reasons she lost to him in the 2016 presidential race.
“The use of immigrants as a political device and as a symbol of government gone wrong, of attacks on one’s heritage, one’s identity, one’s national unity has been very much exploited by the current administration here,” she said. “There are solutions to migration that do not require clamping down on the press, on your political opponents and trying to suborn the judiciary, or seeking financial and political help from Russia to support your political parties and movements.”
The three former world leaders also argued that rightwing politics was able to rise not just because it latched on to an anti-immigration agenda, but because of its disruptive style of politics that highlights divisions. Blair said that more mainstream politicians will struggle to get heard over the simple, emotional language used by populists and that they need to find a way to cut through the soundbites that make the headlines.
And while the three global figures said they believed that populism was near its peak and people were beginning to see its faults, none could pinpoint a reason why populist leaders have been so successful over the past few years.
“The whole American system was designed so that you would eliminate the threat from a strong, authoritarian king or other leader and maybe people are just tired of it,” Clinton said. “They don’t want that much responsibility and freedom. They want to be told what to do and where to go and how to live … and only given one version of reality.”
She added: “I don’t know why at this moment that is so attractive to people, but it’s a serious threat to our freedom and our democratic institutions, and it goes very deep and very far and we’ve got to do a better job of shining a light on it and trying to combat it.”
This is hilarious. She still doesn't get it, and never will.
Hillary Clinton: Europe 'needs to get a handle on migration' in order to halt rise of rightwing populists
By Andrew O'Reilly | Fox News
Hillary Clinton said during an interview with The Guardian that the one million migrants and refugees that have flooded into European Union nations since 2015 have thrust immigration into the spotlight and fueled the rise of hardline leaders around the globe. (Reuters)
Hillary Clinton has issued frank advice to European leaders: If you want to stop the rise of rightwing populists then get a handle on your immigration crisis.
Clinton, the 2016 Democratic presidential nominee, said during an interview with The Guardian that the one million migrants and refugees that have flooded into the European Union since 2015 have thrust immigration into the spotlight and fueled the rise of hardline leaders around the globe. And while she praised German chancellor Angela Merkel for her compassion, she cautioned that countries can’t leave the door open forever.
“I think Europe needs to get a handle on migration because that is what lit the flame,” Clinton said regarding the rise of rightwing populists like Hungary’s Viktor Orbán.
Clinton added: “I admire the very generous and compassionate approaches that were taken particularly by leaders like Angela Merkel, but I think it is fair to say Europe has done its part, and must send a very clear message – ‘we are not going to be able to continue provide refuge and support’ – because if we don’t deal with the migration issue it will continue to roil the body politic.”
MIGRANT CARAVAN GIVEN OPTIONS AS OFFICIALS KICK OFF JOB FAIR IN TIJUANA
Countries like Germany, Greece and Italy – which have been most affected by the influx of migrants – have argued that other nations throughout the region need to share in the burden. But the other countries, especially those in central and eastern Europe, have so far refused to help out.
Migration numbers have dropped precipitously from their height in 2015.
Clinton was one of three politicians interviewed by the Guardian, along with former British Prime Minister Tony Blair and former Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi, about the rise of rightwing populism and what center-left politicians are struggling to combat it.
The two former prime ministers both agreed with Clinton’s statement that the immigration issue was directly responsible for fueling the populist trend.
“You’ve got to deal with the legitimate grievances and answer them, which is why today in Europe you cannot possibly stand for election unless you’ve got a strong position on immigration because people are worried about it,” Blair said. “You’ve got to answer those problems. If you don’t answer them then … you leave a large space into which the populists can march.”
Clinton singled out President Trump’s use of immigration as an issue to rally his base of support on the campaign trail and as one of the reasons she lost to him in the 2016 presidential race.
“The use of immigrants as a political device and as a symbol of government gone wrong, of attacks on one’s heritage, one’s identity, one’s national unity has been very much exploited by the current administration here,” she said. “There are solutions to migration that do not require clamping down on the press, on your political opponents and trying to suborn the judiciary, or seeking financial and political help from Russia to support your political parties and movements.”
The three former world leaders also argued that rightwing politics was able to rise not just because it latched on to an anti-immigration agenda, but because of its disruptive style of politics that highlights divisions. Blair said that more mainstream politicians will struggle to get heard over the simple, emotional language used by populists and that they need to find a way to cut through the soundbites that make the headlines.
And while the three global figures said they believed that populism was near its peak and people were beginning to see its faults, none could pinpoint a reason why populist leaders have been so successful over the past few years.
“The whole American system was designed so that you would eliminate the threat from a strong, authoritarian king or other leader and maybe people are just tired of it,” Clinton said. “They don’t want that much responsibility and freedom. They want to be told what to do and where to go and how to live … and only given one version of reality.”
She added: “I don’t know why at this moment that is so attractive to people, but it’s a serious threat to our freedom and our democratic institutions, and it goes very deep and very far and we’ve got to do a better job of shining a light on it and trying to combat it.”
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Trump threatens to shut down 'whole border' with Mexico if immigration becomes 'uncontrollable'
By Andrew O'Reilly | Fox News
Trump speaks with troops stationed overseas on Thanksgiving
President Trump praises troops' courage and sacrifice in a conference call from Mar-a-Lago in West Palm Beach, Florida.
While Thanksgiving normally signals the start of what is known as the Giving Season, President Trump didn’t appear to be in a giving mood when it comes to immigration.
Speaking to reporters while in Florida for the holiday, Trump threatened to close the U.S. border with Mexico for an undisclosed period of time if his administration determines that its southern ally has lost "control" on its side.
Trump also said he has given the thousands of active-duty troops he sent to the border before the Nov. 6 midterm elections the "OK" to use lethal force against migrants "if they have to." And he said Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, whom he has faulted for not being tough enough on immigration, is "in there trying."
"It's a tough job," he said.
"The caravans will not be permitted to enter the United States," Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Thursday. "There are real dangers to the safety and human rights of migrants from those who would prey on them."
Trump's border threat came days after a federal judge put the administration's asylum policy on hold. Under that new policy, Trump declared no one could apply for asylum except at an official border entry point. Some ports of entry are already facing huge backups, with people waiting for weeks.
The U.S. government shut down one port of entry, San Ysidro, in California, for several hours early Monday morning to bolster security amid concerns about a potential influx of migrant caravan members. Most of the lanes were reopened before the morning rush.
Trump repeated Nielsen's claim, made earlier this week when she visited a San Diego Pacific Coast beach to see newly installed razor wire wrapped around a towering border wall that cuts across the sand, that there were as many as 500 criminals and gang members in the group heading northward. Nielsen refused to answer questions about how they were identified or what crimes they had committed.
Trump asserted that there are "fistfights all over the streets" in Tijuana, Mexico, and that "these are not like normal, innocent people."
"These are people you talk to them and they start a fistfight," he said. "I don't want that in this country."
The people of Tijuana "opened up with wide arms" to welcome the caravan, Trump said, and "now they're going crazy to get them out ... because bad things are happening."
In the past week, city officials have arrested three dozen caravan members for drug possession, public intoxication, disturbing the peace and resisting police, and said they would be deported to their home countries.
While authorizing the military's use of lethal force along the border, Trump said, "I hope they don't have to," adding that he would not let "the military be taken advantage of. I have no choice."
Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said Wednesday that the White House had given him explicit authority to use military troops to protect Customs and Border Protection personnel at the southwest border, with lethal force if necessary. But he was adamant the military would remain within its legal limits.
The law prohibits the federal government from using the armed forces in a domestic police role, except in cases and under circumstances authorized explicitly by the Constitution or Congress. Generally, U.S. troops are authorized to use force in self-defense.
Video
Trump said that if U.S. officials "find that it's uncontrollable, if we find that it gets to a level where we are going to lose control or where people are going to start getting hurt, we will close entry into the country for a period of time until we can get it under control. The whole border."
In that case, Mexico would take an economic hit, he said, citing an inability to ship cars into the U.S. for sale.
"We're either going to have a border or we're not," Trump said.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
By Andrew O'Reilly | Fox News
Trump speaks with troops stationed overseas on Thanksgiving
President Trump praises troops' courage and sacrifice in a conference call from Mar-a-Lago in West Palm Beach, Florida.
While Thanksgiving normally signals the start of what is known as the Giving Season, President Trump didn’t appear to be in a giving mood when it comes to immigration.
Speaking to reporters while in Florida for the holiday, Trump threatened to close the U.S. border with Mexico for an undisclosed period of time if his administration determines that its southern ally has lost "control" on its side.
Trump also said he has given the thousands of active-duty troops he sent to the border before the Nov. 6 midterm elections the "OK" to use lethal force against migrants "if they have to." And he said Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, whom he has faulted for not being tough enough on immigration, is "in there trying."
"It's a tough job," he said.
"The caravans will not be permitted to enter the United States," Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Thursday. "There are real dangers to the safety and human rights of migrants from those who would prey on them."
Trump's border threat came days after a federal judge put the administration's asylum policy on hold. Under that new policy, Trump declared no one could apply for asylum except at an official border entry point. Some ports of entry are already facing huge backups, with people waiting for weeks.
The U.S. government shut down one port of entry, San Ysidro, in California, for several hours early Monday morning to bolster security amid concerns about a potential influx of migrant caravan members. Most of the lanes were reopened before the morning rush.
Trump repeated Nielsen's claim, made earlier this week when she visited a San Diego Pacific Coast beach to see newly installed razor wire wrapped around a towering border wall that cuts across the sand, that there were as many as 500 criminals and gang members in the group heading northward. Nielsen refused to answer questions about how they were identified or what crimes they had committed.
Trump asserted that there are "fistfights all over the streets" in Tijuana, Mexico, and that "these are not like normal, innocent people."
"These are people you talk to them and they start a fistfight," he said. "I don't want that in this country."
The people of Tijuana "opened up with wide arms" to welcome the caravan, Trump said, and "now they're going crazy to get them out ... because bad things are happening."
In the past week, city officials have arrested three dozen caravan members for drug possession, public intoxication, disturbing the peace and resisting police, and said they would be deported to their home countries.
While authorizing the military's use of lethal force along the border, Trump said, "I hope they don't have to," adding that he would not let "the military be taken advantage of. I have no choice."
Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said Wednesday that the White House had given him explicit authority to use military troops to protect Customs and Border Protection personnel at the southwest border, with lethal force if necessary. But he was adamant the military would remain within its legal limits.
The law prohibits the federal government from using the armed forces in a domestic police role, except in cases and under circumstances authorized explicitly by the Constitution or Congress. Generally, U.S. troops are authorized to use force in self-defense.
VideoTrump said that if U.S. officials "find that it's uncontrollable, if we find that it gets to a level where we are going to lose control or where people are going to start getting hurt, we will close entry into the country for a period of time until we can get it under control. The whole border."
In that case, Mexico would take an economic hit, he said, citing an inability to ship cars into the U.S. for sale.
"We're either going to have a border or we're not," Trump said.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Trump threatens to shut down 'whole border' with Mexico if immigration becomes 'uncontrollable'
By Andrew O'Reilly | Fox News
Trump speaks with troops stationed overseas on Thanksgiving
President Trump praises troops' courage and sacrifice in a conference call from Mar-a-Lago in West Palm Beach, Florida.
While Thanksgiving normally signals the start of what is known as the Giving Season, President Trump didn’t appear to be in a giving mood when it comes to immigration.
Speaking to reporters while in Florida for the holiday, Trump threatened to close the U.S. border with Mexico for an undisclosed period of time if his administration determines that its southern ally has lost "control" on its side.
Trump also said he has given the thousands of active-duty troops he sent to the border before the Nov. 6 midterm elections the "OK" to use lethal force against migrants "if they have to." And he said Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, whom he has faulted for not being tough enough on immigration, is "in there trying."
"It's a tough job," he said.
"The caravans will not be permitted to enter the United States," Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Thursday. "There are real dangers to the safety and human rights of migrants from those who would prey on them."
Trump's border threat came days after a federal judge put the administration's asylum policy on hold. Under that new policy, Trump declared no one could apply for asylum except at an official border entry point. Some ports of entry are already facing huge backups, with people waiting for weeks.
The U.S. government shut down one port of entry, San Ysidro, in California, for several hours early Monday morning to bolster security amid concerns about a potential influx of migrant caravan members. Most of the lanes were reopened before the morning rush.
Trump repeated Nielsen's claim, made earlier this week when she visited a San Diego Pacific Coast beach to see newly installed razor wire wrapped around a towering border wall that cuts across the sand, that there were as many as 500 criminals and gang members in the group heading northward. Nielsen refused to answer questions about how they were identified or what crimes they had committed.
Trump asserted that there are "fistfights all over the streets" in Tijuana, Mexico, and that "these are not like normal, innocent people."
"These are people you talk to them and they start a fistfight," he said. "I don't want that in this country."
The people of Tijuana "opened up with wide arms" to welcome the caravan, Trump said, and "now they're going crazy to get them out ... because bad things are happening."
In the past week, city officials have arrested three dozen caravan members for drug possession, public intoxication, disturbing the peace and resisting police, and said they would be deported to their home countries.
While authorizing the military's use of lethal force along the border, Trump said, "I hope they don't have to," adding that he would not let "the military be taken advantage of. I have no choice."
Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said Wednesday that the White House had given him explicit authority to use military troops to protect Customs and Border Protection personnel at the southwest border, with lethal force if necessary. But he was adamant the military would remain within its legal limits.
The law prohibits the federal government from using the armed forces in a domestic police role, except in cases and under circumstances authorized explicitly by the Constitution or Congress. Generally, U.S. troops are authorized to use force in self-defense.
Trump said that if U.S. officials "find that it's uncontrollable, if we find that it gets to a level where we are going to lose control or where people are going to start getting hurt, we will close entry into the country for a period of time until we can get it under control. The whole border."
In that case, Mexico would take an economic hit, he said, citing an inability to ship cars into the U.S. for sale.
"We're either going to have a border or we're not," Trump said.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
Spoken like a true hate mongerer in charge. Unfortunately the clown plays to the 30+ percenters. I understand he's big in little towns that think they live in the wild wild west and need guns to ward off all the "bad hombres", lol.
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He'd have to go over a federal judge to do so. This idiot knows less than nothing (how is this possible?) about the law.Trump threatens to shut down 'whole border' with Mexico if immigration becomes 'uncontrollable'
By Andrew O'Reilly | Fox News
Trump speaks with troops stationed overseas on Thanksgiving
President Trump praises troops' courage and sacrifice in a conference call from Mar-a-Lago in West Palm Beach, Florida.
While Thanksgiving normally signals the start of what is known as the Giving Season, President Trump didn’t appear to be in a giving mood when it comes to immigration.
Speaking to reporters while in Florida for the holiday, Trump threatened to close the U.S. border with Mexico for an undisclosed period of time if his administration determines that its southern ally has lost "control" on its side.
Trump also said he has given the thousands of active-duty troops he sent to the border before the Nov. 6 midterm elections the "OK" to use lethal force against migrants "if they have to." And he said Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, whom he has faulted for not being tough enough on immigration, is "in there trying."
"It's a tough job," he said.
"The caravans will not be permitted to enter the United States," Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Thursday. "There are real dangers to the safety and human rights of migrants from those who would prey on them."
Trump's border threat came days after a federal judge put the administration's asylum policy on hold. Under that new policy, Trump declared no one could apply for asylum except at an official border entry point. Some ports of entry are already facing huge backups, with people waiting for weeks.
The U.S. government shut down one port of entry, San Ysidro, in California, for several hours early Monday morning to bolster security amid concerns about a potential influx of migrant caravan members. Most of the lanes were reopened before the morning rush.
Trump repeated Nielsen's claim, made earlier this week when she visited a San Diego Pacific Coast beach to see newly installed razor wire wrapped around a towering border wall that cuts across the sand, that there were as many as 500 criminals and gang members in the group heading northward. Nielsen refused to answer questions about how they were identified or what crimes they had committed.
Trump asserted that there are "fistfights all over the streets" in Tijuana, Mexico, and that "these are not like normal, innocent people."
"These are people you talk to them and they start a fistfight," he said. "I don't want that in this country."
The people of Tijuana "opened up with wide arms" to welcome the caravan, Trump said, and "now they're going crazy to get them out ... because bad things are happening."
In the past week, city officials have arrested three dozen caravan members for drug possession, public intoxication, disturbing the peace and resisting police, and said they would be deported to their home countries.
While authorizing the military's use of lethal force along the border, Trump said, "I hope they don't have to," adding that he would not let "the military be taken advantage of. I have no choice."
Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said Wednesday that the White House had given him explicit authority to use military troops to protect Customs and Border Protection personnel at the southwest border, with lethal force if necessary. But he was adamant the military would remain within its legal limits.
The law prohibits the federal government from using the armed forces in a domestic police role, except in cases and under circumstances authorized explicitly by the Constitution or Congress. Generally, U.S. troops are authorized to use force in self-defense.
Trump said that if U.S. officials "find that it's uncontrollable, if we find that it gets to a level where we are going to lose control or where people are going to start getting hurt, we will close entry into the country for a period of time until we can get it under control. The whole border."
In that case, Mexico would take an economic hit, he said, citing an inability to ship cars into the U.S. for sale.
"We're either going to have a border or we're not," Trump said.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Sorry, but no. 1 is health care. It seems most Americans insist we keep Obama Care. Note how Trump and McConnell have shut up about it. Do you wonder why?Trump threatens to shut down 'whole border' with Mexico if immigration becomes 'uncontrollable'
By Andrew O'Reilly | Fox News
Trump speaks with troops stationed overseas on Thanksgiving
President Trump praises troops' courage and sacrifice in a conference call from Mar-a-Lago in West Palm Beach, Florida.
While Thanksgiving normally signals the start of what is known as the Giving Season, President Trump didn’t appear to be in a giving mood when it comes to immigration.
Speaking to reporters while in Florida for the holiday, Trump threatened to close the U.S. border with Mexico for an undisclosed period of time if his administration determines that its southern ally has lost "control" on its side.
Trump also said he has given the thousands of active-duty troops he sent to the border before the Nov. 6 midterm elections the "OK" to use lethal force against migrants "if they have to." And he said Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, whom he has faulted for not being tough enough on immigration, is "in there trying."
"It's a tough job," he said.
"The caravans will not be permitted to enter the United States," Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Thursday. "There are real dangers to the safety and human rights of migrants from those who would prey on them."
Trump's border threat came days after a federal judge put the administration's asylum policy on hold. Under that new policy, Trump declared no one could apply for asylum except at an official border entry point. Some ports of entry are already facing huge backups, with people waiting for weeks.
The U.S. government shut down one port of entry, San Ysidro, in California, for several hours early Monday morning to bolster security amid concerns about a potential influx of migrant caravan members. Most of the lanes were reopened before the morning rush.
Trump repeated Nielsen's claim, made earlier this week when she visited a San Diego Pacific Coast beach to see newly installed razor wire wrapped around a towering border wall that cuts across the sand, that there were as many as 500 criminals and gang members in the group heading northward. Nielsen refused to answer questions about how they were identified or what crimes they had committed.
Trump asserted that there are "fistfights all over the streets" in Tijuana, Mexico, and that "these are not like normal, innocent people."
"These are people you talk to them and they start a fistfight," he said. "I don't want that in this country."
The people of Tijuana "opened up with wide arms" to welcome the caravan, Trump said, and "now they're going crazy to get them out ... because bad things are happening."
In the past week, city officials have arrested three dozen caravan members for drug possession, public intoxication, disturbing the peace and resisting police, and said they would be deported to their home countries.
While authorizing the military's use of lethal force along the border, Trump said, "I hope they don't have to," adding that he would not let "the military be taken advantage of. I have no choice."
Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said Wednesday that the White House had given him explicit authority to use military troops to protect Customs and Border Protection personnel at the southwest border, with lethal force if necessary. But he was adamant the military would remain within its legal limits.
The law prohibits the federal government from using the armed forces in a domestic police role, except in cases and under circumstances authorized explicitly by the Constitution or Congress. Generally, U.S. troops are authorized to use force in self-defense.
Trump said that if U.S. officials "find that it's uncontrollable, if we find that it gets to a level where we are going to lose control or where people are going to start getting hurt, we will close entry into the country for a period of time until we can get it under control. The whole border."
In that case, Mexico would take an economic hit, he said, citing an inability to ship cars into the U.S. for sale.
"We're either going to have a border or we're not," Trump said.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Caravaners turning down thousands of jobs being offered them in Tijuana, demanding free shelter and full financial support.
They have also been offered jobs and government support by Honduras who is pleading for them to return home.
They are opportunistic leeches, being used as pawns by the left to weaken our country, and increase poverty and strife.
The President has the power to use the military to repel any invading force by whatever means he chooses.
They have also been offered jobs and government support by Honduras who is pleading for them to return home.
They are opportunistic leeches, being used as pawns by the left to weaken our country, and increase poverty and strife.
The President has the power to use the military to repel any invading force by whatever means he chooses.
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Actually that is false.
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Saying this and you voted for trump? Right....
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Dumbest thing I've read in ages.Here's to the people in here who are so easily controlled...
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Stop bowing to corporatocracy. They have you duped.
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Did you watch the hearing?
Are you aware of the perception that ICE is like the KKK?
And, do you see any parallels between the two?
Guy answers I don't see any parallels..
I ASKED YOU IF YOU WERE AWARE OF THE PERCEPTION...BLAH BLAH BLAH.
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NOPE. They've got you and the dumb girl you linked here duped.
I am fully aware of the big corporations running this country. They want the illegals here but you and this girl think people like me naive.
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Really? Do you read your own posts? lol
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EW would be a much better pick for the dems than Harris, imo.
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Not sure what you're upset about.
You can't be seriously comparing anything she said to anything the asshat you voted for said.
He's not smaght...
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Then why do you support the side who doesn't want to punish the corporations for hiring them?
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That's the part that drives me insane. They talk a good game then bow to their corporate masters.
That's why I don't "support" the Republicans.
They're just not as bad as the Democrats.
Hence......Trump. I started a thread about Hillary dogging on European deplorables but nobody cares.
She's trying out her knew line of bullshit over there to see how it works.
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I wouldn't be that big of a dick to accuse you of supporting her.I've never supported Hillary.
If we can't get the billions of dollars out of politics we're all screwed.
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I think we're already screwed. But that's for another thread.
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are you saying that low unemployment has nothing to do with better wages?
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Mexico will be tightening their southern border soon, as the problem becomes theirs rather than ours. 
Trump administration makes tentative deal to force asylum-seekers to wait in Mexico: report
By Adam Shaw | Fox News
The president believes the need for the wall couldn’t be more apparent or urgent; My Faith Votes communications director Audrea Decker and Run for America founder David Burstein discuss.
The Trump administration has reportedly made a deal with Mexico’s incoming government to require all asylum-seekers coming from the south of the border to wait in Mexico while their asylum claims goes through court.
The Washington Post, citing Mexican officials and senior members of president-elect Andrés Manuel López Obrador’s transition team, reported Saturday that the Remain in Mexico plan would require asylum applicants to stay in Mexico, therefore ending the “catch-and-release” practice whereby those seeking asylum are allowed to stay in the U.S.
Should the policy be implemented, it would mark a significant victory for President Trump, whose tough immigration stance -- including his promises to end catch-and-release and build a wall -- has formed a central part of his political platform both before and after his election.
“President Trump has developed a strong relationship with the incoming Obrador Administration, and we look forward to working with them on a wide range of issues.” Deputy Press Secretary Hogan Gidley told Fox News.
The deal also comes as Trump has set his sights in recent weeks on the latest migrant caravan to travel through Honduras and Guatemala toward the U.S. southern border. He has expressed determination to stop the caravan reaching the U.S., deploying troops to the border and warning of consequences should countries assist the caravan in its journey.
The reported deal is likely to be seen by Trump’s supporters as proof that his hardline rhetoric has resulted in success. The Post reported that the deal took shape in Houston during a meeting including Marcelo Ebrard, Mexico’s incoming foreign minister, and top U.S. officials such as Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen.
However, incoming Mexican Interior Minister Olga Sanchez Cordero told The Post that the deal would be a “short-term solution.”
“The medium- and long-term solution is that people don’t migrate,” Sánchez Cordero said. “Mexico has open arms and everything, but imagine, one caravan after another after another, that would also be a problem for us.”
Trump administration makes tentative deal to force asylum-seekers to wait in Mexico: report
By Adam Shaw | Fox News
The president believes the need for the wall couldn’t be more apparent or urgent; My Faith Votes communications director Audrea Decker and Run for America founder David Burstein discuss.
The Trump administration has reportedly made a deal with Mexico’s incoming government to require all asylum-seekers coming from the south of the border to wait in Mexico while their asylum claims goes through court.
The Washington Post, citing Mexican officials and senior members of president-elect Andrés Manuel López Obrador’s transition team, reported Saturday that the Remain in Mexico plan would require asylum applicants to stay in Mexico, therefore ending the “catch-and-release” practice whereby those seeking asylum are allowed to stay in the U.S.
Should the policy be implemented, it would mark a significant victory for President Trump, whose tough immigration stance -- including his promises to end catch-and-release and build a wall -- has formed a central part of his political platform both before and after his election.
“President Trump has developed a strong relationship with the incoming Obrador Administration, and we look forward to working with them on a wide range of issues.” Deputy Press Secretary Hogan Gidley told Fox News.
The deal also comes as Trump has set his sights in recent weeks on the latest migrant caravan to travel through Honduras and Guatemala toward the U.S. southern border. He has expressed determination to stop the caravan reaching the U.S., deploying troops to the border and warning of consequences should countries assist the caravan in its journey.
The reported deal is likely to be seen by Trump’s supporters as proof that his hardline rhetoric has resulted in success. The Post reported that the deal took shape in Houston during a meeting including Marcelo Ebrard, Mexico’s incoming foreign minister, and top U.S. officials such as Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen.
However, incoming Mexican Interior Minister Olga Sanchez Cordero told The Post that the deal would be a “short-term solution.”
“The medium- and long-term solution is that people don’t migrate,” Sánchez Cordero said. “Mexico has open arms and everything, but imagine, one caravan after another after another, that would also be a problem for us.”
