I'm confused

[tim]

Why are Nets fans so confident that LeBron is going to sign with them? I understand the whole Jay-Z thing, but he would be leaving the place where he grew up. Why would he leave that and a fanbase that has loved him since before he entered the NBA to play for his buddy? Is there something else to this that I just never heard about?

 

[CelticKing]

You're not the only one confused Tim.

I personally think we should have a separate forum named "LeBron to Nets propaganda and hype" for all the threads concerning him joining the team (which has slim chances of happening). I can name ten teams at least that have better chance at him (not including the Cavs)

 

[pegs]

Because the Nets are awesome, better than every other team in the league, and there's no doubt in any Nets fans' minds that Lebron will most definitely be coming with us to Brooklyn.

 

[Malorkayel]

New York, if you can make it here, you can make it anywhere.

To be completely honest, it's not that we have the best chance. We're the loudest and we have the most journalists.

There is a scientific study on politics. If people hear something enough times, they start to believe it.

 

[nets1]

to me its a pipe dream, and i do hope nets management thinks so too, and probably do.

they are rebuilding and doing it right with all their options. I mean really this is an increditably weak free agency market, and i for one am tired for overpaying for average players. The next really big crop of free agents is in the year of 2010 and the nets will be ready, and can make a decent bid. I don't care if they don't get LBJ, or wade ,or bosh. In fact i'd like to see the nets continue building from within and from the draft. Thats how good teams are made.

Now if Rod Thorn continues to amaze us with these great trades i have no problem. Take the opportunity of Diop for example. Here is another average player who has done nothing exceptional in his career, yet demands 6 million a year to average 3 pts a game. Rod has no plans to resign him, but Cuban wants him. So don't be surprised if Thorn turns a situation of just letting a bad player leave into the guy from chicago who is a player. Nelicoioni (sp).

Wait and see, Rod won't let us down. He's doing it the right way

The nets may not make the playoffs next year, but they will give it their all and come real close to making it. Or they will be in the bottom of the playoff brackets. Either way its a gain cause the younger players will gain valuable playoff experience.

I'm not confused, i'm excited to see how this new young exciting team develops.

oh yeah, go nets!!

 

[Lavalamp]

lol they just need to get Lebron to hear it enough so he believes he is going there.

 

[netsking]

ummm cause then without lebron coming we got nothing to look forward to.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Your right theres nothing.

I expect a lot of bumped threads about this time in 2 years.......

 

[bbwSwish]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Jul 5 2008, 12:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You're not the only one confused Tim.

I personally think we should have a separate forum named "LeBron to Nets propaganda and hype" for all the threads concerning him joining the team (which has slim chances of happening). I can name ten teams at least that have better chance at him (not including the Cavs)</div>

Let's here em.

 

[ghoti]

The media keeps reporting about it like it's a real story, so it is a real story.

And I'm going to keep posting about it like it's already happened for exactly the same reason.

 

[cpawfan]

Easy answer. Look at the Nets roster and try to find hope. Once you realize you can't, then it is easy to pin your hopes on a dream.

Personally, I'd rather just have a new front office.

 

[Netted]

You see he likes NY. There are 2 teams in NY. One is part owned by his friend.
He has a shoe deal that pays more if he plays in NYC market.
The Nets have a Chinese National team star that would probably get him even more in endorsements.

All that and the media keeps reporting it. Lebron talks about Brooklyn being his favorite boro.

On the surface (even a little below) the odds look pretty good. No?

 

[Big Frame]

Wont Nike give James more money if he plays in NYC?

 

[GMJ]

Personally I think Jay-Z's relationship has done all it can already: get the idea of him coming here out there, or perhaps serve as a friendly face a la Frank and SAR.

Then, I think we'll have a contending team for the next 5 or so years once we get there. Our young guns will be just about to hit their prime years. Still, I think the real reason he would want to come to Brooklyn is what can be found outside the court. He wants to be Jordan. He's been hyped up to be his heir, and even wears his number. Still, what really separated Jordan from the rest was that he didn't just win ball games, but he became a cultural phenomenon. It's why is name is regarded as one of the best more-so then any Laker or Celtic player back in the day (who were simiarly accomplished). Michael was/is HUGE. Lebron has that kind of potential in Brooklyn. The size of the fan base is only the start. We're talking about the mecca of urban and hip-hop culture, a demographic of modern day NBA fans who make up his biggest fan base. You pair that with Jay-Z...we're talking empire. For a guy who already does Vogue magizine and Nike, imagine the possibilities of using him in Brooklyn, New York City. You can't find that anywhere else. Manhattan might be more attractive for other people with different interests, but keep in mind that this is subjective to Lebron, and he's already said that he prefers Brooklyn.

So you've got the right pieces to compliment him in the East, the chance to be the King of Brooklyn, and the mogul to walk him through the door.

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[bbwSwish]

Everyone saying that LeBron will get paid more if he plays in a big market like New York, that's not true. Someone reported that a few years ago but it was proven false.

 

[Malorkayel]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Big Frame @ Jul 5 2008, 12:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wont Nike give James more money if he plays in NYC?</div>

I've been hearing both sides of this opinion. Will Lebron make more money if he was to play in a bigger market?

He might not make more money from Nike. Yet, New York and LA are the major media hubs in America. He can profit from TV and movies directly and indirectly through advertising and market penetration.

If Lebron want to increase his celebrity status, he will move.

You can also look at the NBA from a different angle. Has winning in the small market of San Antonio helped any members of the Spurs to make more money or increase their potential celebrity status?

 

[JCB]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Swish @ Jul 5 2008, 01:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Everyone saying that LeBron will get paid more if he plays in a big market like New York, that's not true. Someone reported that a few years ago but it was proven false.</div>

LeBron's Nike deal expires in 2010. If he leaves for NYC, you don't think Nike will give him a more lucrative contract now that he's playing in a bigger market?

Bigger market = more exposure = more money for Nike = bigger contract for Bron (in theory). Of course, Nike would have to be willing to gamble that the bigger market would result in increased sales. If they think that will happen, LeBron will get a bigger contract. The fact that he'll be playing with Yi only adds to the likely-hood that LeBron's sales will increase.

I could just be talking out of my ass right now because I'm not well versed on contracts and things of that nature, but it seems plausible, no?

 

[CelticKing]

The point JCB is that he's exposed enough right now playing in Cleveland. Everyone around the world recognizes his name and knows what kind of player he is. No point of changing cities for the sake of earning a few more millions, he's already a 250+ millionaire and will earn a few hundred more just by staying at Cleveland from all the deals he has which will continue to endorse him.

Cleveland is a player away from being a championship team. All of you Nets fans know that better than me since you've all been following his career and know so much about him.

 

[bbwSwish]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB @ Jul 5 2008, 12:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Swish @ Jul 5 2008, 01:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Everyone saying that LeBron will get paid more if he plays in a big market like New York, that's not true. Someone reported that a few years ago but it was proven false.</div>

LeBron's Nike deal expires in 2010. If he leaves for NYC, you don't think Nike will give him a more lucrative contract now that he's playing in a bigger market?

Bigger market = more exposure = more money for Nike = bigger contract for Bron (in theory). Of course, Nike would have to be willing to gamble that the bigger market would result in increased sales. If they think that will happen, LeBron will get a bigger contract. The fact that he'll be playing with Yi only adds to the likely-hood that LeBron's sales will increase.

I could just be talking out of my ass right now because I'm not well versed on contracts and things of that nature, but it seems plausible, no?
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That makes sense because it would be a new deal. I'm just saying that it has been reported in the past that LeBron's current contract has a kicker in it that would give him more money if he went to a big market like New York and that has been proven to be false. So yes, going to New York and signing a new deal would equal more money for LeBron but as far as his current contract goes, it doesn't matter what city he is in.

 

[JCB]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Swish @ Jul 5 2008, 01:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB @ Jul 5 2008, 12:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Swish @ Jul 5 2008, 01:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Everyone saying that LeBron will get paid more if he plays in a big market like New York, that's not true. Someone reported that a few years ago but it was proven false.</div>

LeBron's Nike deal expires in 2010. If he leaves for NYC, you don't think Nike will give him a more lucrative contract now that he's playing in a bigger market?

Bigger market = more exposure = more money for Nike = bigger contract for Bron (in theory). Of course, Nike would have to be willing to gamble that the bigger market would result in increased sales. If they think that will happen, LeBron will get a bigger contract. The fact that he'll be playing with Yi only adds to the likely-hood that LeBron's sales will increase.

I could just be talking out of my ass right now because I'm not well versed on contracts and things of that nature, but it seems plausible, no?
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That makes sense because it would be a new deal. I'm just saying that it has been reported in the past that LeBron's current contract has a kicker in it that would give him more money if he went to a big market like New York and that has been proven to be false. So yes, going to New York and signing a new deal would equal more money for LeBron but as far as his current contract goes, it doesn't matter what city he is in.
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True, but the fact that there's no kicker in his current contract is kind of irrelevant since it expires in 2010 anyway.

 

[Malorkayel]

At the moment, Lebron is still only a Basketball superstar. He isn't a cultural icon like Jordan or Tiger Woods. He'll need to move to if he want reach that next level.

Jordan can sell underwear, just wow.

And look at Wade, he's in Miami and sells mobile phones and cars.

To expand the Lebron brand, he can use more exposure and a bigger market can provide that.

 

[pegs]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Jul 5 2008, 01:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The point JCB is that he's exposed enough right now playing in Cleveland. Everyone around the world recognizes his name and knows what kind of player he is. No point of changing cities for the sake of earning a few more millions, he's already a 250+ millionaire and will earn a few hundred more just by staying at Cleveland from all the deals he has which will continue to endorse him.

Cleveland is a player away from being a championship team. All of you Nets fans know that better than me since you've all been following his career and know so much about him.

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So are the Nets. That player? Lebron.

 

[CelticKing]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 5 2008, 01:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Jul 5 2008, 01:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The point JCB is that he's exposed enough right now playing in Cleveland. Everyone around the world recognizes his name and knows what kind of player he is. No point of changing cities for the sake of earning a few more millions, he's already a 250+ millionaire and will earn a few hundred more just by staying at Cleveland from all the deals he has which will continue to endorse him.

Cleveland is a player away from being a championship team. All of you Nets fans know that better than me since you've all been following his career and know so much about him.

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So are the Nets. That player? Lebron.

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Of course pegs.

 

[pegs]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Jul 5 2008, 07:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 5 2008, 01:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Jul 5 2008, 01:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The point JCB is that he's exposed enough right now playing in Cleveland. Everyone around the world recognizes his name and knows what kind of player he is. No point of changing cities for the sake of earning a few more millions, he's already a 250+ millionaire and will earn a few hundred more just by staying at Cleveland from all the deals he has which will continue to endorse him.

Cleveland is a player away from being a championship team. All of you Nets fans know that better than me since you've all been following his career and know so much about him.

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So are the Nets. That player? Lebron.

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Of course pegs.

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Really, I love how you say that though. The Cavaliers are a player away from a championship? Really? What kind of a player? Are you including Lebron on that team? What if he wasn't on that team? Would the team not be a joke of a franchise?

Think about those questions, answer them accordingly, then I'll continue with my interrogation.

 

[networks]

Yeah Lebron to the Nets might not happen but if you look at the facts, It is very possible.

There are so many factors that someone cant deny the possibility.

I give it to Thorn and Kiki. The Yi trade is making more sense. It is hard not to believe that they knew that Yi would be an piece that may help them with the Lebron sweepstakes.