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crandc said:
Sounds like Jenner is pissed because she is jealous.
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She's an assimilationist republican who tries to curry favor by being One Of The Good Transes and effectively being a trans TERF. There's a few out there (Buck Angel, a trans man who outed one of the Wachowski sisters to the press years before she was ready, is another particularly vocal one). They think trans women (it's always just about trans women) are mentally ill sexual deviants who get off on dominating women by penetrating their social roles and social spaces (and in some cases, they believe we are predators who target cis lesbians).

I wish it were as easy as jealousy.
 
Everything Beagle said:
She's an assimilationist republican who tries to curry favor by being One Of The Good Transes and effectively being a trans TERF. There's a few out there (Buck Angel, a trans man who outed one of the Wachowski sisters to the press years before she was ready, is another particularly vocal one). They think trans women (it's always just about trans women) are mentally ill sexual deviants who get off on dominating women by penetrating their social roles and social spaces (and in some cases, they believe we are predators who target cis lesbians).

I wish it were as easy as jealousy.
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Is it possible that someone like Jenner could help with the establishing an inclusive women's/trans athletic sanctioned body that sets guidelines and checks and balances?
 
Hoopguru said:
Is it possible that someone like Jenner could help with the establishing an inclusive women's/trans athletic sanctioned body that sets guidelines and checks and balances?
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If she had any interest in it, sure, but she doesn't want trans women anywhere near sports. It's like asking a KKK member if they want to set up guidelines for integrating black athletes into white sports.
 
Everything Beagle said:
If she had any interest in it, sure, but she doesn't want trans women anywhere near sports. It's like asking a KKK member if they want to set up guidelines for integrating black athletes into white sports.
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wow....I thought she was more reasonable than that, politics aside?
 
Jenner is trying to show she is the responsible trans person. Not like those queer activists. To hold her privilege she turns on everyone else in the LGBTQ community.
 
Wendy Carlos (considered the mother of electronic music) in a 1979 interview for Playboy:
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Read op ed by Indiana doctor. She described a patient of hers, a lively, happy, energetic, talkative boy. When she first met him, he was despondent, barely spoke.

And she is faced with telling him the medical treatment that saved him is now against the law in Indiana. Because he is a transgender boy.

The cruelty is the point.
 
Road Ratt said:
The threads real purpose, from my perspective, is for both sides to hate on each other.

In other words: "Business as usual" in the OT section.
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This like saying how "both sides do it", when one side makes up laws taking away rights from people, and the other points out how unethical that is to do.
 
Road Ratt said:
The threads real purpose, from my perspective, is for both sides to hate on each other.

In other words: "Business as usual" in the OT section.
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What if people made laws taking away rights from autistic people, publicly complained about autistic people, etc. And then when you pushed back on people hating you, I said welp, there it goes again, both sides of the autism debate acting up again. Both sides of this are clearly to blame. That'd probably feel shitty, no?
 
julius said:
This like saying how "both sides do it", when one side makes up laws taking away rights from people, and the other points out how unethical that is to do.
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That is different from what I meant. Twisting it around to fit your scenario, misses my point.
 
Road Ratt said:
That is different from what I meant. Twisting it around to fit your scenario, misses my point.
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Oh no, I got your point. You missed the bigger point that there's a reason why people get mad during situations like this, and it's not just a flippant case of "people get mad, as per usual".

Your "perspective" isn't some kind of special nuanced way to look at the world that the rest of us don't have access too.
 
julius said:
Oh no, I got your point. You missed the bigger point that there's a reason why people get mad during situations like this, and it's not just a flippant case of "people get mad, as per usual".

Your "perspective" isn't some kind of special nuanced way to look at the world that the rest of us don't have access too.
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Now you are just making up shit.

You clearly don't get what I meant.
 
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