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Rastapopoulos said:
Ah, the generation gap. Young folks do this all the time, even when it's obvious which one the person being referred to identifies as. I feel you @Chris Craig but we are the dinosaurs.
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I'm not sure anyone would refer to me as "young" anymore. 43 is pretty much well outside of young.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
It's not a disorder, it's just being "intersexual." Contrary to the MAGA crowd, biological sex is not a simple binary, it's a spectrum. By all of the standards in place prior to the discovery of chromosomes, nobody would question that she is a she. It might be Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome (Jamie Leigh Curtis is rumored to be an example of this) but there are plenty of others.

Would the MAGA crown feel happier if women's sports were divided again into "femme" and "butch"? Would that help to protect the sanctity of the thing they have now decided is super-important after ridiculing and fighting against it for decades?
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I believe medically it is classified as a disorder. DSD is a "Disorder of Sex Development". I'm not sure if she has been formally diagnosed though so that is just conjecture on my part.
 
tlongII said:
I believe medically it is classified as a disorder. DSD is a "Disorder of Sex Development". I'm not sure if she has been formally diagnosed though so that is just conjecture on my part.
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So are a lot of things. Like autism. And so was homosexuality before Evelyn Hooker.
 
#1 The US president has no control over Olympic rules.

#2 This woman is not “transgender”. She was born a woman and has always identified as a woman since birth.

#3 Stop spreading hate towards transgender people merely because you are angry about the Olympic rules that allow a woman to compete as a woman, in a woman’s sport. Yes, a biological woman can have XY chromosomes due to certain genetic conditions. Stop being so ignorant and using this to attack trans people.

Stop oversimplifying a complex situation.

I don’t know what the right move is here but ignorance and hate is not the solution.

 
I don't know what is swinging between this person's legs, but I'll assume it's malformed male genitalia, and he was thus labled as female.

But with XY chromosomes, and T levels that are that of a man, and just look at the guy...that is not a woman. This mismatch says it all. The female boxer he was fighting quit after 46 seconds. Tell me this wasn't allowed because of transgender BS.

P.S. I'd agree that it's not fair to call him "transgender" because he was born with a condition. Most likely CAIS. There is a condition where you have xy chromosomes, but female reproductive organs, like Swywer Syndrome, but they have low T levels and look more female.

He probably has CAIS. They have high T levels, an testes inside the abdomen at birth, so may look female. He's only fighting females because of transgender ideology though.

GT5s3seWgAEofOv
 
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beast crnjo said:
I don't know what is swinging between this person's legs, but I'll assume it's malformed male genitalia, and he was thus labled as female.

But with XY chromosomes, and T levels that are that of a man, and just look at the guy...that is not a woman. This mismatch says it all. The female boxer he was fighting quit after 46 seconds. Tell me this wasn't allowed because of transgender BS.

P.S. I'd agree that it's not fair to call him "transgender" because he was born with a condition. Most likely CAIS. There is a condition where you have xy chromosomes, but female reproductive organs, like Swywer Syndrome, but they have low T levels and look more female.

He probably has CAIS. They have high T levels, an testes inside the abdomen at birth, so may look female. He's only fighting females because of transgender ideology though.

GT5s3seWgAEofOv
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She is not transgendered. She had a disorder at birth that gave her xy chromosomes and testosterone levels closer to what would be seen in a male. But, she is not a he and not transgendered. No penis sir. She has been a female au naturel from birth.
 
Khelif is NOT transgender or transsexual. Khelif is a biological woman. In Algeria, the country that Khelif represents, transgender identity is prohibited, as is changing sex or gender and medical or hormonal treatments to transition to another sex.
 
We don't have to literally disagree on everything. I feel like the left just takes a side sometimes because they feel like they have to take the opposite side of who they perceive to be "the right".

Like we can't agree that biological men should not be allowed to compete in female sports? We can't agree that children shouldn't be put on puberty blockers, or minors get double masectomies?

You people don't realize how deranged you are, the crazy things you think are virtuous.
 
And he has some kind of genetic disorder, but the fact that he has high levels of T and a masculine body highly indicates it's something like AIS. They appear female at birth, but actually have testes.
 
Chris Craig said:
She is not transgendered. She had a disorder at birth that gave her xy chromosomes and testosterone levels closer to what would be seen in a male. But, she is not a he and not transgendered. No penis sir. She has been a female au naturel from birth.
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I already said he isn't transgender. He's simply a male.
 
I agree, anyone with athletic abilities greater than average should be prohibited from playing sports. It's unfair for them to be allowed to compete.

barfo
 
barfo said:
I agree, anyone with athletic abilities greater than average should be prohibited from playing sports. It's unfair for them to be allowed to compete.

barfo
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She does have a clear advantage.
 
beast crnjo said:
I don't know what is swinging between this person's legs, but I'll assume it's malformed male genitalia, and he was thus labled as female.

But with XY chromosomes, and T levels that are that of a man, and just look at the guy...that is not a woman. This mismatch says it all. The female boxer he was fighting quit after 46 seconds. Tell me this wasn't allowed because of transgender BS.

P.S. I'd agree that it's not fair to call him "transgender" because he was born with a condition. Most likely CAIS. There is a condition where you have xy chromosomes, but female reproductive organs, like Swywer Syndrome, but they have low T levels and look more female.

He probably has CAIS. They have high T levels, an testes inside the abdomen at birth, so may look female. He's only fighting females because of transgender ideology though.

GT5s3seWgAEofOv
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Interesting that he didn't choose to fight men? I'm wondering if they would have told him he couldn't because he didn't classify as male? Wait?
 
kjironman1 said:
Please don't be part of the problem. Everyone can see this is wrong. Throwing a smokescreen at it is not going to help.
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Disagree. Many people have built in advantage. She is no more unfair than a team with a Shaq was.
 
kjironman1 said:
Interesting that he didn't choose to fight men? I'm wondering if they would have told him he couldn't because he didn't classify as male? Wait?
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The IBA disqualified him for being male. It was the woke Olympic Committee that allowed him. Just because your balls never dropped doesn't mean you get beat the crap out of women.
 
Most non-elite athletes don't have much of a career after they fail to medal at an Olympics, but that Italian boxer has set herself up nicely as a right wing podcast guest.
 
https://www.iba.sport/news/statemen...fications-in-world-boxing-championships-2023/

"On 24 March 2023, IBA disqualified athletes Lin Yu-ting and Imane Khelif from the IBA Women’s World Boxing Championships New Delhi 2023. This disqualification was a result of their failure to meet the eligibility criteria for participating in the women’s competition, as set and laid out in the IBA Regulations. This decision, made after a meticulous review, was extremely important and necessary to uphold the level of fairness and utmost integrity of the competition.

Point to note, the athletes did not undergo a testosterone examination but were subject to a separate and recognized test, whereby the specifics remain confidential. This test conclusively indicated that both athletes did not meet the required necessary eligibility criteria and were found to have competitive advantages over other female competitors."

Get the hint.
 
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