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We should have ratings for sporting events. Like movies.
NFL football? Way back when, cheerleaders wore basic skirt & sweater. Skirt was short but they were covered. Now teams vie with each other to see which ladies wear the least amount of clothing.
Women's gymnastics? Barely pubescent young women in tight leotards.
Beach volleyball? Bikini mandatory. A woman was disqualified for wanting to wear a one piece swim suit.
Men's Olympic swimming and diving? Oi vey, those skimpy skimpy Spandex swimsuits. Some SERIOUS beefcake. Nothing left to the imagination.

Every year I go see Nutcracker. Lots of children in audience. They see women in tutus, all their leg exposed. And Arabian dance features a woman in harem pants and sparkly bra.

Simple fact. Seeing bodies does not harm people. Neither does seeing people in drag costumes.

Bigotry and ignorance harm people.
 
RR7 said:
I don't think he knows that or he wouldn't have asked.
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It was rhetorical, silly. But, hey, you and the others roll with your synopses, and I'll keep being me. Thanks.
 
crandc said:
We should have ratings for sporting events. Like movies.
NFL football? Way back when, cheerleaders wore basic skirt & sweater. Skirt was short but they were covered. Now teams vie with each other to see which ladies wear the least amount of clothing.
Women's gymnastics? Barely pubescent young women in tight leotards.
Beach volleyball? Bikini mandatory. A woman was disqualified for wanting to wear a one piece swim suit.
Men's Olympic swimming and diving? Oi vey, those skimpy skimpy Spandex swimsuits. Some SERIOUS beefcake. Nothing left to the imagination.

Every year I go see Nutcracker. Lots of children in audience. They see women in tutus, all their leg exposed. And Arabian dance features a woman in harem pants and sparkly bra.

Simple fact. Seeing bodies does not harm people. Neither does seeing people in drag costumes.

Bigotry and ignorance harm people.
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Great treatise. Thanks, as always, for the insights. Just as people tell me, though, you be you. Thanks
 
My problem is not that ABM wants to be him. If he doesn't want to have gay friends or go to drag performance that's his business.

My problem is that he wants to prevent me from being me. And supports politicians who want to make being me a crime.
 
ABM said:
It was rhetorical, silly. But, hey, you and the others roll with your synopses, and I'll keep being me. Thanks.
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The way you asked that question is not what rhetorical means.
 
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julius said:
The way you asked that question is not what rhetorical means.
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Well, FWIW, it was pretty much in response to crandc's assertations that I'm, both, a homophobe and transphobe. Hence, if someone were gay and called out a trans (as per the posted article), where does that place them? In fact, right, wrong, or otherwise, I'm hearing more and more about gays not really appreciating transgenders being part of the LGBTQIA lettering system. That's quizzical to me.
 
ABM said:
Well, FWIW, it was pretty much in response to crandc's assertations that I'm, both, a homophobe and transphobe. Hence, if someone were gay and called out a trans (as per the posted article), where does that place them? In fact, right, wrong, or otherwise, I'm hearing more and more about gays not really appreciating transgenders being part of the LGBTQIA lettering system. That's quizzical to me.
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It places them as a guy man who comes across as transphobic. Pretty simple really. Difficult for you to grasp, apparently.
 
RR7 said:
It places them as a guy man who comes across as transphobic. Pretty simple really. Difficult for you to grasp, apparently.
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You've supported my point, actually. There are all types out there.......not that there's anything wrong with that
 
crandc said:
My problem is not that ABM wants to be him. If he doesn't want to have gay friends,,,,,
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Who says I don't have gay friends?? Don't be a twerp.
 
ABM said:
Well, FWIW, it was pretty much in response to crandc's assertations that I'm, both, a homophobe and transphobe. Hence, if someone were gay and called out a trans (as per the posted article), where does that place them? In fact, right, wrong, or otherwise, I'm hearing more and more about gays not really appreciating transgenders being part of the LGBTQIA lettering system. That's quizzical to me.
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Do you honestly think you're making a good point here??
 
ABM said:
You've supported my point, actually. There are all types out there.......not that there's anything wrong with that
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But, there is something wrong with that according to you and the politicians you support.
 
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Chris Craig said:
But, there is something wrong with that according to you and the politicians you support.
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1) I don't support gay marriage.

2) I want to do all I can to ensure our kids are protected from being sexualized at an early age.
 
ABM said:
1) I don't support gay marriage.

2) I want to do all I can to ensure our kids are protected from being sexualized at an early age.
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In a free country you don't get a say in who marries who or how people raise their children.

For example, you get no say over what my children are allowed to watch on TV.

I prefer freedom over authoritarianism.
 
I don't see what sexualization of children has to do with trans people. Are trans people responsible for sexualization of children? Have they that much influence? Seems unlikely.

What is meant by sexualization of children? Using children for sexual gratification of adults? Or merely teaching children about sex? Sex is a natural function. Children should learn about their bodies.
 
ABM said:
1) I don't support gay marriage.

2) I want to do all I can to ensure our kids are protected from being sexualized at an early age.
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It's one thing to not support it and another to take the right from others.

I don't disagree with your second assessment. I will say a kid identifying or realizing they are gay or trans is not sexualization. Neither is it environmental.
 
My take about people who are bigoted towards gays is that there must be some underlying questioning of their own identity.

If it doesn’t effect you in any way than why put so much effort into hate. I’m no religious man, in fact far from it, but I’m pretty sure the book they read from thousands of years ago doesn’t refer to anything of the like.

But “Christians” have always been about judging people that don’t fit their textbook ideals.
 
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My take about people who are bigoted towards gays is that there must be some underlying questioning of their own identity.

If it doesn’t effect you in any way than why put so much effort into hate. I’m no religious man, in fact far from it, but I’m pretty sure the book they read from thousands of years ago doesn’t refer to anything of the like.

But “Christians” have always been about judging people that don’t fit their textbook ideals.
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There are a few instances where the Bible speaks of homosexuality. The crop dusting of Sodom and Gomorrah with fire and brimstone and some vague line in Leviticus or something about laying in a bed with another man that's taken out of context by many who point to it as evidence.

The Bible doesn't speak of trans people.

I don't really get the judging of other people because of their identity. ABM has offered a line or two from the Bible that has Jesus telling him to judge others because they are going to judge him for being a Christian. I think that's pretty short sighted and again out of context.
 
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