I'm done with North Korea

[chris_in_pdx]

Seriously. How many times has the free world backed down or retaliated with meaningless words at this little bitch country's actions?

It's time for China to man the fuck up and realize that it owes it's economic resurgence to the West and that rouge states like North Korea are only hurting it's own interests. The whole "supporting fellow Communist states from Western Imperialism" bullshit is played. The Chinese are getting fat and sassy on the dollars, euros, pounds, and yens of the West. They need to realize where their bread is buttered, and it sure as hell isn't in North Korea. Their people are starving, paranoid, and brainwashed.

For someone that was whole-fucking-heartedly against the war in Iraq, and only sees the war in Afghanistan as a temporary necessity to safeguard against world extremist terror... I'm down with just invading the fuck out of North Korea. If China wants to play ball, they can invade from the North, and we'll all meet at the 38th Parallel and have Orange Chicken with Rice to celebrate, and invite the hungry North Korean civilians to join us. If the Chinese don't want to act in their own interests, still clinging to that Cold-War bullshit worldview, then I'm sure that Indonesia, India, or maybe even southern Africa would like to have some of that heavy industry that the West has placed in China. Fuck 'em with the dollar, not the bomb. And then STILL invade North Korea, and dare them to do anything about it.

 

[mook]

We aren't going to invade. They'd just nuke or invade Seoul. There are 24 million people in that metro area. It could potentially cost more lives than all the people wasted in the holocaust. What US president wants that on their epitaph?

I think the best strategy is basically the one we've been using. It's what won the Cold War. Contain them. Out-spend them. Keep a big army there so they have to as well. Let their own economy fall apart under its own weight. With every year that passes, China has less incentive to bankroll the fiasco. (At this point, I think the only reason they keep it up is because they don't want hordes of starving North Koreans flooding the border if the country falls apart.)

The North Korean leadership is annoying as fuck, but then so were some of the Soviet leaders too. Who even thinks about those dead fucks anymore?

If I were the Chinese, I'd build a giant freakin wall (they are pretty good at that) across their North Korean border. Then tell them to fuck off.

 

[HailBlazers]

Long range missals are scary, especially in the hands of wacko dictators

 

[Mamba]

I swear, we should send a team of assassin's over and just fucking kill that POS.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

can't. remember we gave them a get out of jail free card when we "negotiated" for those Al Gore documentary people to get out of N. Korea.

 

[Mamba]

WWGBD

What Would George Bush Do?

 

[DP]

XD Funny people.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

bump!

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704369304575632470933720174.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

According to former Los Alamos National Laboratory Director Siegfried Hecker, North Korea is working on two new nuclear facilities, a light water power reactor in early stages of construction, and a "stunning . . . modern, clean centrifuge plant" for uranium enrichment, which appears nearly complete. The latter is particularly significant because it could produce more than enough highly enriched uranium to make a nuclear weapon every year—and it may not be the only such facility in North Korea. North Korea's artillery bombardment of the South Korean island of Yeonpyeong yesterday makes it doubly clear that Pyongyang intends to leverage its new nuclear breakthrough for maximum concessions from the international community.

This new nuclear revelation is not an intelligence failure. Over the past decade intelligence analysts have consistently predicted North Korea's path to nuclear weapons and the increasing evidence of Pyongyang's outward proliferation activities. The failure has been on the side of policy makers and pundits who denigrated the analysis, ignored it, or clung desperately to the fallacy that absent maximum possible pressure, North Korea would abide by a denuclearization deal.

In 1994, Clinton administration negotiators acknowledged that North Korea might be experimenting with uranium enrichment technologies, but chose to focus on an agreement freezing the North's plutonium production at the Yongbyon facility under a deal called the Agreed Framework. Intelligence agencies followed the uranium trail, but policy makers ignored it. As North Korea's most senior defector, Hwang Jang Yop, told us in 2004, the regime negotiated the Agreed Framework with every intention of "confronting the U.S. with a nuclear deterrent" before the reactors were complete and inspections became necessary.

In 2002, the Bush administration received compelling assessments from the intelligence community detailing active North Korean efforts to procure the equipment and materials necessary for a highly enriched uranium facility. The experts had put together multiple-source information like a Rosetta Stone in an amazing piece of sleuthing. The exact state of the program was still unclear, but estimates were that it could be up and running within the decade. This was right on target, as we now know.

 

[Eastoff]

Send in the SC2 players.

 

[MARIS61]

We tried and failed miserably last time we started a war with North Korea.

http://koreanwarstuff.com/korean-war-death-toll

China owns us outright and we will do as they tell us.

 

[andalusian]

China owns us outright and we will do as they tell us.

You central Oregonians and your defeatist attitudes. Pfft.

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

Should we also be listening to China on policy with Mexico to halt the killings from the drug wars? We would be the biggest consumer nation in the world with massive debt to China telling them how to handle their neighbor.

It is easy for us to tell China to do something about North Korea. It would not be the billions of North Koreans migrating here.

 

[Stevenson]

U.S. to North Korea - "I just can't quit you!"

 

[Natebishop3]

We aren't going to invade. They'd just nuke or invade Seoul. There are 24 million people in that metro area. It could potentially cost more lives than all the people wasted in the holocaust. What US president wants that on their epitaph?

I think the best strategy is basically the one we've been using. It's what won the Cold War. Contain them. Out-spend them. Keep a big army there so they have to as well. Let their own economy fall apart under its own weight. With every year that passes, China has less incentive to bankroll the fiasco. (At this point, I think the only reason they keep it up is because they don't want hordes of starving North Koreans flooding the border if the country falls apart.)

The North Korean leadership is annoying as fuck, but then so were some of the Soviet leaders too. Who even thinks about those dead fucks anymore?

If I were the Chinese, I'd build a giant freakin wall (they are pretty good at that) across their North Korean border. Then tell them to fuck off.

EMP their cities, hit them while their power is down. We could have control of that country so fast it wouldn't even be funny.

 

[BGrantFan]

I'm done with South Korea. Right now, my brother-in-law is stationed there, they rejected Obama's very fair trade proposal, and the US taxpayer has spent literally over $1 billion and tens of thousands of lives on that country.

Fuck South Korea. A whole bunch of ingrates who now thumb their nose at a weak United States and a weak President, but a President who actually came with a trade proposal that made sense to both countries.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

I'm done with South Korea. Right now, my brother-in-law is stationed there, they rejected Obama's very fair trade proposal, and the US taxpayer has spent literally over $1 billion and tens of thousands of lives on that country.

Fuck South Korea. A whole bunch of ingrates who now thumb their nose at a weak United States and a weak President, but a President who actually came with a trade proposal that made sense to both countries.

I think if I were SK I'd send a lot of true propaganda about the benefits of free elections, being able to eat regularly, having adequate medicine, jobs, ability to purchase, how they miss family... and when they get good and ready they'll hang that porno addicted dictator.