I'm Expecting To Read Something About Andre

[ABM]

Now that the Blazers have lost a couple, I think Miller might have a few things to say. His body language in the 4th spoke volumes. Volumes, I say.

 

[illmatic99]

Any gripe of his will be legit. Bayless was too out of control in the latter parts of that fourth quarter, and should have been subbed out for Miller.

 

[craigehlo]

He should be irate about Nate's 4th quarter rotations. 10 seconds in the 4th tonight is inexcusable when we see the team melting down under the pressure of a mediocre team like the Grizz.

Nate is a moron. No way around that conclusion.

 

[Darkwebs]

I hope if Miller has something to say about his playing time/roation, he says it to the coaching staff so they can communicate directly, not through the local media.

 

[KingSpeed]

a mediocre team like the Grizz\

The Grizz are 15-8 since they waived Iverson.

 

[craigehlo]

The Grizz are 15-8 since they waived Iverson.

They were very beatable tonight. We gave this one away with poor shot selection and bad rotations.

 

[Further]

They were very beatable tonight. We gave this one away with poor shot selection and bad rotations.

This, and the refs.

 

[KingSpeed]

Give the Grizz credit. They were down 8 on a road with a few minutes to go and they regrouped and won the game. They're a playoff team and ZBo's an All Star.

 

[hasoos]

Any gripe of his will be legit. Bayless was too out of control in the latter parts of that fourth quarter, and should have been subbed out for Miller.

Actually if you look at it, the problem wasn't players out of control or making bad decisions down the stretch. Every player on the Blazers made mistakes down the stretch, not just Bayless. Roy made mistakes. Howard made mistakes. Webster made mistakes. About the only guy who didn't, was Aldridge, who really didn't touch the ball much. No the problem was much bigger than that. The problem was that the Blazers quite moving the ball, and went to isolation plays for Bayless and Roy and stood around and watched them pound the rock to burn time instead of playing to win. When you stand around and pound the rock, and everybody just watches, all you get out of it is the typical results of a guy going 1 on 5. Not good. What you would probably call an "out of control" attempt.

 

[DaRizzle]

They're a playoff team and ZBo's an All Star.

No...

WEST CONF: NBA ALL-STAR VOTING RESULTS THIRD RETURNS (JAN. 1)

Guards: Kobe Bryant (LAL) 1,606,032; Tracy McGrady (Hou) 649,563; Steve Nash (Pho) 648,558; Chris Paul (NO) 622,619; Jason Kidd (Dal) 405,027; Aaron Brooks (Hou) 374,635; Chauncey Billups (Den) 281,911; Deron Williams (Utah) 255,059; Brandon Roy (Por) 224,350; Manu Ginobili (SA) 222,743; Jason Terry (Dal) 212,242.

Forwards: Carmelo Anthony (Den) 1,410,356; Dirk Nowitzki (Dal) 753,971; Tim Duncan (SA) 685,390; Pau Gasol (LAL) 667,767; Kevin Durant (OKC) 474,506; Trevor Ariza (Hou) 436,088; Luis Scola (Hou) 371,914; Shawn Marion (Dal) 282,421; Ron Artest (LAL) 234,618; Lamar Odom (LAL) 175,271; LaMarcus Aldridge (Por) 155,933.

Centers: Amar’e Stoudemire (Pho) 1,143,849; Andrew Bynum (LAL) 676,634; Nene (Den) 235,276; Marc Gasol (Mem) 190,476; Antonio McDyess (SA) 130,058; Greg Oden (Por) 124,037; Al Jefferson (Min) 119,580; Marcus Camby (LAC) 100,399; Andris Biedrins (GS) 90,464; Mehmet Okur (Utah) 87,838; Emeka Okafor (NO) 82,616; Spencer Hawes (Sac) 25,109.

http://www.insidehoops.com/all-star-voting-results.shtml

and no....

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/standings?season=2010&group=conference&seasontype=2&standType=expanded

Damn when reality gets in the way

 

[BlazerBeav]

Actually if you look at it, the problem wasn't players out of control or making bad decisions down the stretch. Every player on the Blazers made mistakes down the stretch, not just Bayless. Roy made mistakes. Howard made mistakes. Webster made mistakes. About the only guy who didn't, was Aldridge, who really didn't touch the ball much. No the problem was much bigger than that. The problem was that the Blazers quite moving the ball, and went to isolation plays for Bayless and Roy and stood around and watched them pound the rock to burn time instead of playing to win. When you stand around and pound the rock, and everybody just watches, all you get out of it is the typical results of a guy going 1 on 5. Not good. What you would probably call an "out of control" attempt.

Which is why Andre, who can distribute the ball AND post up (unlike anyone else on our roster currently) should have been in the game.

 

[LittleAlex]

Which is why Andre, who can distribute the ball AND post up (unlike anyone else on our roster currently) should have been in the game.

The coach told the team to play not to loose instead of playing to win.


Miller wouldn't have done anything differently then the other guys.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

No...

Damn when reality gets in the way

Um, you are aware that fans only choose the starters, right?

And pointing to fan voting as evidence of "reality" is something only a Laker fan (or family member of McGrady or Iverson) would do.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Is there a way to track how well Webster plays when Miller is on the court against how well Webster plays without Andre? It seems to me that the major reason for Webster's upswing in offensive numbers is Miller playing more with Blake out (and pushing the pace in a way that Nate seems to find objectionable).

 

[Kaydow]

Is there a way to track how well Webster plays when Miller is on the court against how well Webster plays without Andre? It seems to me that the major reason for Webster's upswing in offensive numbers is Miller playing more with Blake out (and pushing the pace in a way that Nate seems to find objectionable).

That's a good point. He's played better with Bayless also.

 

[hasoos]

Which is why Andre, who can distribute the ball AND post up (unlike anyone else on our roster currently) should have been in the game.

You can argue that. But the offense was stand around and watch a guard dribble. I don't think it matters if it is Roy, Miller, Bayless or Patty Mills for that matter. When you run a stagnant offense that doesn't move the ball, you get jacked. Go back and watch the film. Nate called "Ice" like 8 times in a row.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

That's a good point. He's played better with Bayless also.

That points more to "Martell is playing better recently" than to "It's Blake's fault Martell sucked earlier."

 

[hasoos]

Folks are just going to have to get used to the fact that its going to be a crapshoot on whether the Blazers will win from night to night. When you allow your opponent to shoot over 50% every night, and don't win the rebounding battle, chances are you are going to lose. I don't care what plays were ran at the end of the game, who was in or who was out.

When your opponent is shooting over 50% you are not getting it done. When you have no bigs, you aren't going to stop other teams from shooting that percentage.

The same for rebounding. Every game the Blazers have won since Pryzbilla went down is directly correlated to winning the rebound battle.

 

[DaRizzle]

Um, you are aware that fans only choose the starters, right?

And pointing to fan voting as evidence of "reality" is something only a Laker fan (or family member of McGrady or Iverson) would do.

Yes Im aware...but those votes actually do count for something....obviously he can make it by coaches decision....but Im just pointing out KS is full of hot air as usual

 

[BlazerWookee]

Now that the Blazers have lost a couple, I think Miller might have a few things to say. His body language in the 4th spoke volumes. Volumes, I say.

To me, Miller's body language said, "I'm exausted. I want to take a nap."

 

[Kaydow]

Which is why Andre, who can distribute the ball AND post up (unlike anyone else on our roster currently) should have been in the game.

The problem with posting up Miller, or when Miller crashes the boards is that when you are playing a team that can run you end up giving up some transition baskets/fouls to save layups. Especially now because our perimeter guys that would need to get back would probably be LA & Roy - who are both gimping around like old men right now.

I could be wrong - but that's why I thought they went away from it.

 

[RR7]

What do you have against Miller?

 

[bemac]

To me, Miller's body language said, "I'm exausted. I want to take a nap."

Was that before or after he was busting his ass to grab rebounds, and make things happen?

 

[hasoos]

Was that before or after he was busting his ass to grab rebounds, and make things happen?

Yep he was leading the Blazers in rebounding while in. With no bigs, the guards gotta pick up the slack.

 

[Paxil]

Miller was having a great game... I was suprised to not see him in the 4th. Very.

I think one reason we lost is we started playing the clock... slowing it up... wasting time and getting rushed or forced shots. We were up 104-99? I think when we started the Roy hold the ball at the top stuff... and even before that we were really slowing it down.

 

[hasoos]

Miller was having a great game... I was suprised to not see him in the 4th. Very.

I think one reason we lost is we started playing the clock... slowing it up... wasting time and getting rushed or forced shots. We were up 104-99? I think when we started the Roy hold the ball at the top stuff... and even before that we were really slowing it down.

You mean where Nate called the "Ice" play like 8 times in a row? Also known as not playing to win, but playing not to lose. It's like playing prevent defense in the NFL. You will get kicked in the gnards within 2 minutes every time.

 

[Paxil]

Yep... I think they need to just keep playing... the clock is a 6th defender that will force you to shoot whether you are open or not. Seems to make more sense to just play... especially when you factor in the team that is behind is going to be more aggressive on defense increasing your odds at drawing a foul. You end up playing against the clock and losing you ability to draw a foul and get easy points by doing that.

 

[jlprk]

I didn't see Miller's body language, but it should have said angrily, "That dumbshit McMillan lost us the game by not playing me."

Miller was on track for over 20 assists and 30 points, the greatest PG game in Blazer history, when he was yanked out of the game in the 3rd quarter. Even in the abbreviated time that McMillan gave him, Miller had an historic game. As I posted,

Andre Miller had 15 assists by the middle of the 3rd quarter, and finished with 22 points and 16 assists.

Looking at a database that only goes back to 1986--
Until last night, the only Blazers to get at least 22 points and 16 assists had been Rod Strickland and Terry Porter. The last occurrence was 14 years ago.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/tiny.cgi?id=Keyhw

 

[B-Roy]

To me, Miller's body language said, "I'm exausted. I want to take a nap."

He always looks like that though. He's similar to Bayless in that his expression rarely changes.

 

[Blaze01]

So I guees that Nate spiel about going with the guy with the hot hand was a bunch of crap then? right? Or Miller wasn't hot enough that game?

Miller has every reason to be pissed IMO....