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I would assume this would help create lots of local jobs...
 
I AM a tree-hugger but that is butt-ugly's uglier sister and in a city with the views Portland has it's retarded to block out all those windows.
 
I'ma be the first person to pee on that thing.
 
MARIS61 said:
I AM a tree-hugger but that is butt-ugly's uglier sister and in a city with the views Portland has it's retarded to block out all those windows.
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I think it's suppose to be a plant that loses it's leaves in the winter.
 
I'm still going with the assumption that is a horrible joke and it will not look like that...I hope.
 
Blazer_Hippie said:
I'm still going with the assumption that is a horrible joke and it will not look like that...I hope.
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Nope. My boss saw it in the NY Times.

Wait. Let's seeeeeeeeeeeeee, the NY Times..............hmmmmmmmmmm............... Yes, yes, it still could be a joke.
 
BLAZER PROPHET said:
Nope. My boss saw it in the NY Times.

Wait. Let's seeeeeeeeeeeeee, the NY Times..............hmmmmmmmmmm............... Yes, yes, it still could be a joke.
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I like stuff that's environmentally friendly unless it's waaayyyy off the deep end... and that totally qualifies as stupid...
 
It's not going to look as bad as the renderings. These are just preliminary renderings.

For example, compare the preliminary renderings here to the final rendering:

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The design will be refined like the 1st and Main building.
 
OK, I like the CONCEPT and the idea of using natural vegetation to reduce energy costs, but that artist's rendering is butt ugly. It looks like the world's biggest, ugliest set of vertical blinds. At least plant some flowers in the mix to give it a little color.

I also wonder about the cost effectiveness. The article mentions the energy cost savings of $280,000 a year. That's great until you read the next sentence and learn this is a $133 million (as in $133,000,000) project. I assume that's the total cost of the building and not just the "Green Monster" and that it won't actually take 475 years to recover the cost of building it. Has anyone seen any numbers on the cost adder just for the wall of vegetation and the solar panels?

I like that someone is thinking creatively, but the idea definitely needs some further refinement.

BNM
 
For the record, I think the PSU block Net-Zero building >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this one.
 
Where is this project going to be built? The article just refers to it as Portland's federal building. Anyone know who the architects are? The Hatfield Federal Courthouse is an absolutely beautiful building inside and out. Hopefully, they can pull this off and Portland ends up with another government building we can be proud of and people won't end up just calling it the Chia Building (as per one of the article comments).

BNM
 
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Right beside the new First and Main building. It's a pretty noticeable building in the skyline.
 
I can imagine there will be plenty of bird nests in that thing along with the usual amount of avian excrement. Also, it's not great for a curtainwall to constantly be moist.

Great idea.
 
maxiep said:
I can imagine there will be plenty of bird nests in that thing along with the usual amount of avian excrement. Also, it's not great for a curtainwall to constantly be moist.

Great idea.
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They will be deciduous plants. They will have leaves during the late spring through early fall - to provide shade and help retain moisture and provide a cooling effect. Then they will loose their leaves to better shed water and let in more light during the overcast, rainy winter months.

BNM
 
Boob-No-More said:
They will be deciduous plants. They will have leaves during the late spring through early fall - to provide shade and help retain moisture and provide a cooling effect. Then they will loose their leaves to better shed water and let in more light during the overcast, rainy winter months.

BNM
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With pretty spring flowers that bring bees to sting people and birds to crap on people and leaves that fall, turn to mush in the rain for people to slip & fall on...
 
BLAZER PROPHET said:
With pretty spring flowers that bring bees to sting people and birds to crap on people and leaves that fall, turn to mush in the rain for people to slip & fall on...
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Fuckin' nature! Lets just kill all the birds and bees and cut down all the trees. Nature is just so goddamn dirty. The world would be a better place without it.

BNM
 
Boob-No-More said:
They will be deciduous plants. They will have leaves during the late spring through early fall - to provide shade and help retain moisture and provide a cooling effect. Then they will loose their leaves to better shed water and let in more light during the overcast, rainy winter months.

BNM
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That doesn't make any difference with the bird shit, spiders, etc. that will fester in that vegetation. Also, the curtain wall will still be damp.
 
maxiep said:
That doesn't make any difference with the bird shit, spiders, etc. that will fester in that vegetation. Also, the curtain wall will still be damp.
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Will it be any worse than what it is now with trees and pigeons nesting in and on every building? It seems like a lot of the waste/debris will get caught in the leaves during the spring/summer/early fall seasons where it will act as a natural fertilizer. Most of the rest will come down with the leaves when they are dropped in the fall and rinsed out by the rains.

The more I think about it, having the waste getting caught in the vegetation is better than having it drop from the sky directly onto pedestrians, automobiles and sidewalks like it does now.

I don't understand your concern with spiders. They won't be "festering". They actually catch and east insect pests.

I'm also not sure why the curtain wall being damp is an issue. You actually want it to be damp during the warmer months to provide natural cooling. During the winter months, it will retain less water and what it does retain shouldn't be an issue. My lawn, trees, bushes and shrubs are damp all winter and it doesn't cause any problems.

Of course, periodic clean-up below the curtain wall will be necessary, especially in the fall, but sweeping and raking of leaves are currently required anyway wherever there is natural vegatation.

BNM
 
Boob-No-More said:
Will it be any worse than what it is now with trees and pigeons nesting in and on every building? It seems like a lot of the waste/debris will get caught in the leaves during the spring/summer/early fall seasons where it will act as a natural fertilizer. Most of the rest will come down with the leaves when they are dropped in the fall and rinsed out by the rains.

The more I think about it, having the waste getting caught in the vegetation is better than having it drop from the sky directly onto pedestrians, automobiles and sidewalks like it does now.

I don't understand your concern with spiders. They won't be "festering". They actually catch and east insect pests.

I'm also not sure why the curtain wall being damp is an issue. You actually want it to be damp during the warmer months to provide natural cooling. During the winter months, it will retain less water and what it does retain shouldn't be an issue. My lawn, trees, bushes and shrubs are damp all winter and it doesn't cause any problems.

Of course, periodic clean-up below the curtain wall will be necessary, especially in the fall, but sweeping and raking of leaves are currently required anyway wherever there is natural vegatation.

BNM
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Our firm owns over 200 properties. As a rule, we don't let any kind of plant other than a hedge get within 5'-8' of the foundation and nothing comes close to the curtain wall. It's just asking for trouble. We'll see how it works out for this property.
 
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