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e_blazer said:
It probably takes a really long time for translators to figure out what the hell Trump said and put that into Ukrainian. Google does a poor job with disjointed bullshit to Ukrainian.
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They talk and are translated in real time.
 
riverman said:
You know he's on record admitting he did this right?
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He admitted freezing the aid. He admitted asking for the Ukrainians to dig into the Biden matter. I don’t believe that he’s admitted to any quid pro qui connecting those things. That last part is the important one. If you have a link that says he admitted that, I would like to see it.
 
e_blazer said:
It probably takes a really long time for translators to figure out what the hell Trump said and put that into Ukrainian. Google does a poor job with disjointed bullshit to Ukrainian.
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He is fluent in English, much more so than Trump. His first language is actually Russian, not Ukranian.

barfo
 
e_blazer said:
He admitted freezing the aid. He admitted asking for the Ukrainians to dig into the Biden matter. I don’t believe that he’s admitted to any quid pro qui connecting those things. That last part is the important one. If you have a link that says he admitted that, I would like to see it.
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If there is dog pee on your carpet, and you only have one dog, do you conclude that there's no way to tell who peed on the carpet, since you didn't see it happen?

barfo
 
barfo said:
If there is dog pee on your carpet, and you only have one dog, do you conclude that there's no way to tell who peed on the carpet, since you didn't see it happen?

barfo
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Bad analogy. I'd figure the pirate did it. The dog is too well behaved.
 
Just to make this clear, I think Trump is guilty as hell. I don't however, think that there's this clear "gotcha" path that's going to lead to a quick move to impeachment. I stand by my statement that I think this ends up being more about political theater than it does about removing Trump from office. I'm still hoping for a stray asteroid to accomplish that. I think that has a better chance than Pelosi & Co.
 
e_blazer said:
Just to make this clear, I think Trump is guilty as hell. I don't however, think that there's this clear "gotcha" path that's going to lead to a quick move to impeachment. I stand by my statement that I think this ends up being more about political theater than it does about removing Trump from office. I'm still hoping for a stray asteroid to accomplish that. I think that has a better chance than Pelosi & Co.
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I have to hear the asteroid's position on healthcare before I can vote for it.

barfo
 
That wasnt the full version. Its quite obvious. Theres more to be seen.

Hes fucked.
 
Strenuus said:
That wasnt the full version. Its quite obvious. Theres more to be seen.

Hes fucked.
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He asked Pelosi before she announced the impeachment if they could work something out. There is definitely more to be seen.
 
e_blazer said:
He admitted freezing the aid. He admitted asking for the Ukrainians to dig into the Biden matter. I don’t believe that he’s admitted to any quid pro qui connecting those things. That last part is the important one. If you have a link that says he admitted that, I would like to see it.
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He admitted to withholding funds for Ukraine until they investigated corruption including Vice President Joe Biden and son, Hunter. That's prima facie quid pro quo.
 
Lanny said:
He admitted to withholding funds for Ukraine until they investigated corruption including Vice President Joe Biden and son, Hunter. That's prima facie quid pro quo.
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Yep and he did so pubicly. So did Giuliani. It can't be taken back. Trump can try and change his story all he wants
 
Lanny said:
He admitted to withholding funds for Ukraine until they investigated corruption including Vice President Joe Biden and son, Hunter. That's prima facie quid pro quo.
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I've seen nothing reported to actually establish that link. If you can find one, please share it. To my knowledge, he's admitted withholding funds and he's admitted asking for an investigation on Biden and his son.
 
e_blazer said:
I've seen nothing reported to actually establish that link. If you can find one, please share it. To my knowledge, he's admitted withholding funds and he's admitted asking for an investigation on Biden and his son.
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There you go, you just stated that he told the President of Ukraine that he wanted a prima facie quid pro quo, funds in exchange for an investigation of Vice President Biden and his son, Hunter.
 
Lanny said:
There you go, you just stated that he told the President of Ukraine that he wanted a prima facie quid pro quo, funds in exchange for an investigation of Vice President Biden and his son, Hunter.
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Hmm. You seem to have a way of filling in missing dots with supposition.

Kind of the way the Mueller thing worked out.
 
e_blazer said:
Hmm. You seem to have a way of filling in missing dots with supposition.

Kind of the way the Mueller thing worked out.
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There are no dots to fill in.
Ugh, you investigate Joe Biden and his son, Hunter and I will give you lots and lots of money. Where are the dots.
 
Lanny said:
It's being presented to the House on Thursday.
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And what’s today? Oh, not Thursday. Should we wait til it’s presented, or just go ahead and start celebrating the impeachment now?

That’s never gone wrong before.
 
Lanny said:
There are no dots to fill in.
Ugh, you investigate Joe Biden and his son, Hunter and I will give you lots and lots of money. Where are the dots.
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What's been reported is that the Administration held up the military aid on Trump's instruction. Trump claims that he wanted other allies to kick in funds instead of the US paying for all of it.

What's also been reported and confirmed in the transcript is that he asked the Ukrainians to investigate Biden and his son.

What's missing is something that establishes a connection between those events. Without that, it's a nothing burger.
 
Impeaching the President will get Biden out of the way and make Warren the presumtive nominee.
 
e_blazer said:
What's been reported is that the Administration held up the military aid on Trump's instruction. Trump claims that he wanted other allies to kick in funds instead of the US paying for all of it.

What's also been reported and confirmed in the transcript is that he asked the Ukrainians to investigate Biden and his son.

What's missing is something that establishes a connection between those events. Without that, it's a nothing burger.
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Disagree. "he asked the Ukrainians to investigate Biden and his son" all by itself is a big somethingburger: abuse of power.

barfo
 
jonnyboy said:
And what’s today? Oh, not Thursday. Should we wait til it’s presented, or just go ahead and start celebrating the impeachment now?

That’s never gone wrong before.
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It has been released to the house Intel committee as well as the Senate Intel committee
 
BlazerWookee said:
Impeaching the President will get Biden out of the way and make Warren the presumtive nominee.
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Which would be just fine as long as Mr. Orangeglo is gone.

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e_blazer said:
What's been reported is that the Administration held up the military aid on Trump's instruction. Trump claims that he wanted other allies to kick in funds instead of the US paying for all of it.

What's also been reported and confirmed in the transcript is that he asked the Ukrainians to investigate Biden and his son.

What's missing is something that establishes a connection between those events. Without that, it's a nothing burger.
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Not according to many legal analysts as the simple request from a foreign entity of investigating an opponent is a violation. Add all his shit together with the 10 counts of obstruction that Mueller found just keeps piling up.
 
barfo said:
Disagree. "he asked the Ukrainians to investigate Biden and his son" all by itself is a big somethingburger: abuse of power.

barfo
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Not to mention Trump also said in the summary that Bill Barr would be calling and working with Ukraine to investigate Biden, Trumps opponent in the election. Very troubling that Trump is using the United States Attorney General to do his bidding.
 
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