In 1960 the winter games were held in Squaw Valley California.

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MarAzul

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Oregon has been trying to purge the word "Squaw" from the names of places for several years now but not California.

Too many medals issued with that name I guess.

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http://news.google.com/newspapers?n...2hWAAAAIBAJ&sjid=9PIDAAAAIBAJ&pg=3004,1914054

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/46531169/ns/us_news-life/#.UvcEavtGbTI
 
First time I've heard of it. Geographical features named Squaw were named to celebrate Indian women. Now, I'd rename Squaw Tit, but not most of them.
 
In 1860 is was okay to own slaves.
 
Computers hadn't been invented, either.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
In 1860 is was okay to own slaves.
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Yep and in just 5 years Lincoln spent 10 times the capital value of all 3.5 million of the them in the war that freed them. Nearly one American for every three slaves freed, lost their live in that war.

Wonder if anyone thought of just buying them? Twice or three times the street value seem like a good deal.

But I don't think any slaves were called Squaws. I don't think the word had any bad meaning then, nor in 1960. I fished with some Yakima guys at Celilo falls, Willard Cloud and the Zak brothers
had some prime fishing spots to dip net salmon. Squaw was normal working word with that bunch, I don't know what happen since. Probably headed south like gay.
 
MarAzul said:
Really! Squaw valley is still there. So are the Olympic medals issued. Perhaps the offended need to get over it.
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I guess they'll have to. You on the other hand have no reason to be bitching about this, but you are.
 
hoojacks said:
I guess they'll have to. You on the other hand have no reason to be bitching about this, but you are.
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Naw, I am chuckling about it. But you Hoo, seem to be offended. Your packing a load son.
 
hoojacks said:
I guess they'll have to. You on the other hand have no reason to be bitching about this, but you are.
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It's censorship of Free Speech in order to appease a special interest group, so he has a fabulous reason to bitch about it.
 
what a really weird and random thread
 
MARIS61 said:
Name one.
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The word squaw has been used by some groups in a negative way. They have used the word to represent a Native American woman that is promiscuous. This was not the way the term was used by the Native American men and women who used the term without any associated connotations.

These groups are pushing for legislation that will seek to have these items renamed appropriately. Although this will not give the respect back to the word squaw that was once used respectfully, it will help to stop Native American women from enduring the offensive nature with which the term is sometimes used.
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http://www.indians.org/articles/squaw.html

American Indian women and men all around the United States and Canada reject the use of the word
squaw in reference to American Indian women.
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http://www.main.nc.us/wncceib/squaw.htm

Squaw
This is a word that has been used to refer to
Indian women. Used as a name for many parks,
valleys, mountains etc. The term 'squaw' is
VERY offensive to Indian women. It has been
equated to calling an Indian woman a 'whore'.
Indian women should be called women-
NOT 'squaws'....
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http://www.nativecircle.com/offensivewords.htm

However, since then the word has been used in a very racist and sexually abusive way, so it definitely has negative implications now. Like "******," the word "squaw" should be retired from public use. It is also not an Indian word and no Indians ever use it among themselves.
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http://www.native-languages.org/iaq5.htm
 
hoojacks;3255295[/QUOTE said:
I don't think you have the real story Hoo, just some later day revision of History. Years ago every kid in Oregon had to take a course in Oregon History before finishing the eighth grade.
The text books without malice referred to the Indian women as Squaws, Shoshone squaw or Snake squaw in the case of Sacajawea. I do believe it is a revision of history to have villified
the word and the effort has been rejected in many places but as you see, not Oregon.

Here is a little from an historical account about Dr. John McLoughlin with the word use several times. It doesn't appear to me to be degrading the women at all, and nothing like a modern day rapper does.

"Not too much is known of McLoughlin's private life. Already the
father of a son by an Indian squaw, McLoughlin, about 1812, married
in fur-trader fashion the half-breed widow of the hapless Alexander
McKay by whom she had borne four children, and who as a result of
her union with McLoughlin bore an additional four. Personally Dr.
McLoughlin was of striking appearance. He was six feet, four inches
tall; he was rawboned, well proportioned, and strong. His eyes were
piercing; his flowing, prematurely white hair hung down over his mas-
sive shoulders. He was dignified but impetuous, and to use the words "

The rest of the story.
http://archive.org/stream/oldoregoncountry00wintrich/oldoregoncountry00wintrich_djvu.txt
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MarAzul said:
I don't think you have the real story Hoo, just some later day revision of History. Years ago every kid in Oregon had to take a course in Oregon History before finishing the eighth grade.
The text books without malice referred to the Indian women as Squaws, Shoshone squaw or Snake squaw in the case of Sacajawea. I do believe it is a revision of history to have villified
the word and the effort has been rejected in many places but as you see, not Oregon.

Here is a little from an historical account about Dr. John McLoughlin with the word use several times. It doesn't appear to me to be degrading the women at all, and nothing like a modern day rapper does.

"Not too much is known of McLoughlin's private life. Already the
father of a son by an Indian squaw, McLoughlin, about 1812, married
in fur-trader fashion the half-breed widow of the hapless Alexander
McKay by whom she had borne four children, and who as a result of
her union with McLoughlin bore an additional four. Personally Dr.
McLoughlin was of striking appearance. He was six feet, four inches
tall; he was rawboned, well proportioned, and strong. His eyes were
piercing; his flowing, prematurely white hair hung down over his mas-
sive shoulders. He was dignified but impetuous, and to use the words "

The rest of the story.
http://archive.org/stream/oldoregoncountry00wintrich/oldoregoncountry00wintrich_djvu.txt
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I'm not going to debate with you what the word meant or how it was used in the past. The fact is that today it is considered offensive. People are offended by it. What's so hard to understand?
 
Pretty sure Indians aren't a real race guys, that's why we killed them all, they're all like savage or whatever
 
hoojacks said:
I'm not going to debate with you what the word meant or how it was used in the past. The fact is that today it is considered offensive. People are offended by it. What's so hard to understand?
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Still waiting for you to name one.
 
hoojacks said:
http://www.indians.org/articles/squaw.html


http://www.main.nc.us/wncceib/squaw.htm


http://www.nativecircle.com/offensivewords.htm


http://www.native-languages.org/iaq5.htm
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Your links provide no support for your stance.

Nowhere in real life have I ever heard the term squaw used in any manner other than respect. We have named thousands upon thousands of extraordinary natural wonders "Squaw" _____. Far more than even Presidents' names. An example is gorgeous Squaw Creek near Sisters, which in 2006 was renamed Whychus Creek.

To claim these treasured places would be tagged with names intended to insult American Indian women is intellectually pathetic.
 
maris hates native americans, the only REAL americans are the immigrants...well, except all the filthy immigrants
 
3RA1N1AC said:
maris hates native americans, the only REAL americans are the immigrants...well, except all the filthy immigrants
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Personal insults, especially ludicrous ones like this, expose the disappointing frailty of your character for the world to see.
 
Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of 3ra1n1ac, a fictional message board character created for my amusement, and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of any real person alive or deceased.
 
hoojacks said:
I'm not going to debate with you what the word meant or how it was used in the past. The fact is that today it is considered offensive. People are offended by it. What's so hard to understand?
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What do you think would make Oregon so different that it would reject portions of history as "offensive"? Something that it's contemporaries, it's neighbors North and South did not do.
 
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MARIS61 said:
Your links provide no support for your stance.

Nowhere in real life have I ever heard the term squaw used in any manner other than respect. We have named thousands upon thousands of extraordinary natural wonders "Squaw" _____. Far more than even Presidents' names. An example is gorgeous Squaw Creek near Sisters, which in 2006 was renamed Whychus Creek.

To claim these treasured places would be tagged with names intended to insult American Indian women is intellectually pathetic.
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Please tell me what my stance is because you obviously don't get it.
 
MarAzul said:
What do you think would make Oregon so different that it would reject portions of history as "offensive"? Something that it's contemporaries, it's neighbors North and South did not do.
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I honestly couldn't say.
 
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