In a speech today, Obama said....

[pegs]

Pro - life, and adoption services should improve.

 

[Real]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jun 15 2008, 01:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Pro - life, and adoption services should improve.</div>

And gay couples should have the full right to adopt kids.

Some states explicitly allow it. Some explicitly prohibit it. Some states don't really have any laws about it whatsoever. It should be legal across the board, and I can't understand some conservatives that oppose this. If Roe is someday overturned, there are going to be thousands of more babies put up for adoption, and unless there's a loving couple or individual there to adopt them, they're going to be put into the system.

 

[Denny Crane]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Jun 15 2008, 11:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jun 15 2008, 01:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Pro - life, and adoption services should improve.</div>

And gay couples should have the full right to adopt kids.

Some states explicitly allow it. Some explicitly prohibit it. Some states don't really have any laws about it whatsoever. It should be legal across the board, and I can't understand some conservatives that oppose this. If Roe is someday overturned, there are going to be thousands of more babies put up for adoption, and unless there's a loving couple or individual there to adopt them, they're going to be put into the system.
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Yup!

 

[huevonkiller]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lavalamp @ Jun 15 2008, 11:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The black button thread is different, it is the life of many vs. the life of one. If the mother felt she was not healthy enough for childbearing and would probably die, and there was not enough food for the baby, then sure. But in our society there are plenty of good couples that cannot have kids and want to adopt.</div>

There's a good chance that "life" (in the BB thread) is a child. That's more than a fetus to me.

Though I don't want to focus too much on that other thread, I want to apologize to the other posters for this tangent.

 

[pegs]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Jun 15 2008, 02:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jun 15 2008, 01:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Pro - life, and adoption services should improve.</div>

And gay couples should have the full right to adopt kids.

Some states explicitly allow it. Some explicitly prohibit it. Some states don't really have any laws about it whatsoever. It should be legal across the board, and I can't understand some conservatives that oppose this. If Roe is someday overturned, there are going to be thousands of more babies put up for adoption, and unless there's a loving couple or individual there to adopt them, they're going to be put into the system.
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Hell yes! If straight people <s>have to suffer through</s> get to experience having kids, gay people should <s>have to</s> be able to, too!

 

[Ryan]

I am against abortion but the book Freakonomics makes a pretty interesting connection between Roe v Wade and the dramatic drop of crime rates across the country in the 90s. I believe that it is murder so I never thought about the benefits it can have on society as a whole. I guess an alternative that would produce the same result is to make adoption services more readily available so the babies are saved but taken out of the negative environments.

 

[Yournewchef]

Adoption anyone? Abortion isn't the ONLY answer, especially if the woman is victim of rape, molestation, teen sex, etc. Abortion is a cheap way out of pregnancy. From a moral standpoint, giving the baby to a couple who can take care of it will feel much better than just having it killed. Yes, it's murder... nothing else.