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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Vintage @ Jul 21 2008, 05:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>http://sportstwo.com/forums/search.html&am...sult_type=posts</div>

I must say, nice trick!

But still no answers.
 
If you don't think Pat Summitt could win in the NBA than you are either sexist or don't know anything about her.
She's one of the top five breathing basketball coaches. Go ahead and start that thread right here. No need to dig around the BBF graveyard!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jul 21 2008, 05:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If you don't think Pat Summitt could win in the NBA than you are either sexist or don't know anything about her.
She's one of the top five breathing basketball coaches. Go ahead and start that thread right here. No need to dig around the BBF graveyard!</div>


Right. We must be sexist.

It couldn't be the players who could potentially be sexist and just destroy the team. On a veteran team, maybe that doesn't happen. On a team full of fresh out of college (or rather, should be in college), it could very well.

It has nothing to do with her Xs and Os as a basketball coach.

Obviously, she is quite brilliant.
 
Players who won't play for Pat Summit are players who don't want to win.
What a great filter to weed those jokers out!
 
LOL. Now someone has to split off the Pat Summit stuff into another thread!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (User01 @ Jul 21 2008, 06:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>i thought this thread was about coors light</div>

I have trouble differentiating which is "better", Bud Light or Coors Light.




Oh, and since we're venting, I hate you all.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jul 21 2008, 05:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FOMW @ Jul 21 2008, 05:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jul 21 2008, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So now you are saying that your knowledge of their on court displays is limited to nationally televised games? Nice back tracking.</div>

No. What I said was that I taped all nationally televised games (which were a large proportion in those days) and so seized the opportunity to view THOSE games multiple times. I went to my local sports bar for years in college to watch the games available only on dish. But grasping that nuance requires attentive reading and comprehension, which are not your long suits, and God forbid that I spelled all this out concretely beforehand because that's the kind of "verbose" thing that so unnerves you and a few others in these parts. </div>

No, what you've proved is that you are full of crap. You are attempting to portray that you remember such a fine detail as the interaction of Bird with his teammates from games viewed in a sports bar. Not that many games were nationally televised in those days. Hell, in 1986, CBS was still tape delaying playoff games and showing 10-15 regular season games. TBS was showing 50-60 regular season games a year.</div>

I attended Berklee College of Music from 1981-1984. That's on Boylston Street (and Massachusetts Avenue) in Boston. If you need some corroboration, I can scan my degree, asshole.

Because the Celtics were such a big deal in the city and in the sports world in general at that time, a large percentage of their games not broadcast nationally were broadcast on local television (channel 4, IIRC), including some road games. I watched those games. A substantial number of their games were also broadcast on CBS and TBS in those days and in later years. There may have only been 50-60 games a year on TBS at that time, but a solid third of them were Celtics games, which if you have anything close to the memory you think you have you will know.

I began recording games in 1984 when I got my first VCR. When I attended law school in Tallahassee in the mid-late 80s, and for the time I lived in Orlando in 88-89, I went to local sports bars to watch satellite feeds of every Celtic game not available on national cable, and by then you could find a feed of every one of their games if you knew where to look. I continued the sports bar solution right through Bird's retirement and beyond, seemingly single-handedly keeping Kooter Brown's in Pensacola in business on otherwise slow weeknights until DBS came in vogue and I got my own dish in 1995. In the years from 1986 to his retirement in 1992, I saw every single game Larry Bird played, minus a handful that had to be missed because of unavoidable personal commitments.

Now, when you've had a chance to observe someone for that long, it's the abnormal, the out of the ordinary that stands out. Of course, you idiot, I'm not claiming to have perfect recall of every moment he and his teammates spent on the court. What I KNOW is that his displays of emotion toward a teammate were so rare, so uncommon, that I can immediately name off hand those that consisted of something other than a high five, casual-pat-on-the-butt-type gesture. If you care to make an even bigger fool of yourself than you already have by challenging me on this, I will name those occasions.

If not, stick your bullshit back up your ass and let it continue to contaminate your being.
 
Yes, please list out those moments. The 1986 NBA Finals should be enough.

Hell, I was willing to you half of the 50-60 games on TBS as Celtics games (but that still isn't a majority of the season)
 
All I remember on TBS is Hawks games.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jul 21 2008, 05:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I refuse to mess with him because his super lumberjack sperm just keeps cranking out his own little cpaw army bent on destruction.

Sheesh, even Shawn Kemp must have produced a girl at some point.</div>


Bitch was a statistical anomaly.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jul 21 2008, 07:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yes, please list out those moments. The 1986 NBA Finals should be enough.

Hell, I was willing to you half of the 50-60 games on TBS as Celtics games (but that still isn't a majority of the season)</div>

Let me repeat it SLOWLY:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Because the Celtics were such a big deal in the city and in the sports world in general at that time, a large percentage of their games not broadcast nationally were broadcast on local television (channel 4, IIRC), including some road games. I watched those games.</div>

Added to the nationally televised games, that most certainly IS a majority of their games overall in those years (81 to 84). From 86-92 (essentially the last HALF of his career), I saw every game he played minus about 5-6. Added together, I saw the VAST majority of games he played in his career.

And you're wrong (surprise) about the 1986 Finals. He was less animated then than he had been in 1984 when he permitted himself an ML Carr towel waiving moment. The most remarkable interaction with a teammate in 86 came in game 6 when he dove for a lose ball and berated Danny Ainge moments later for not coming towards him to receive the pass.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FOMW @ Jul 21 2008, 08:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jul 21 2008, 07:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yes, please list out those moments. The 1986 NBA Finals should be enough.

Hell, I was willing to you half of the 50-60 games on TBS as Celtics games (but that still isn't a majority of the season)</div>

Let me repeat it SLOWLY:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Because the Celtics were such a big deal in the city and in the sports world in general at that time, a large percentage of their games not broadcast nationally were broadcast on local television (channel 4, IIRC), including some road games. I watched those games.</div>

Added to the nationally televised games, that most certainly IS a majority of their games overall in those years (81 to 84). From 86-92 (essentially the last HALF of his career), I saw every game he played minus about 5-6. Added together, I saw the VAST majority of games he played in his career. </div>

TBS didn't get the TV contract until the 1984-1985 season and I'm specifically referencing the games that you were able to record since you stated

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I also taped every nationally televised Celtics game in the Bird era and watched them several times in the ensuing years, so there was more than one opportunity to view any particular event in any number of games.</div>

The games that you have been able to rewatch are not a majority of his career.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>And you're wrong (surprise) about the 1986 Finals. He was less animated then than he had been in 1984 when he permitted himself an ML Carr towel waiving moment. The most remarkable interaction with a teammate in 86 came in game 6 when he dove for a lose ball and berated Danny Ainge moments later for not coming towards him to receive the pass.</div>

Yes, the times he exchanged animated (i.e. not normal) high fives (some including shoulder contact similar to a hug) with multiple guys on the bench when coming off the court during that series means nothing. Bill Walton brought an infectious enthusiasm to the bench that year and there was more interaction for Bird, McHale and the team at timeouts and such.

That was also the time when Larry was starting to become less introverted and participated in things like the famous Larry & Magic commercial for Converse's Weapon shoes.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jul 21 2008, 09:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>this thread sucks.

but for some strange reason it gets me hard.</div>

Maybe because it sucks very well?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jul 21 2008, 09:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>this thread sucks.

but for some strange reason it gets me hard.</div>

It is because of your fantasies about Bird, Walton and McHale
 
Man...cpaw...I'm with you on this one...mainly because you usually agree with me on the very few things I DO say here on this site. (I need allies)
All the other times I just don't pay attention to you


By the way people, this is a forum. Disagreements make this what it is. That's why we come here, to argue.

And other dude, whatever his name is, please stop using big words, using them won't prove anything about intelligence. Not hating on you, just thought it was a rather pompous thing to read, because I pictured some middle age man trying to gather whatever former glory he had on some internet forum.

Anyway, continue


(I expect someone to bash me soon)
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DynastYWarrioR6 @ Jul 21 2008, 09:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Man...cpaw...I'm with you on this one...mainly because you usually agree with me on the very few things I DO say here on this site. (I need allies)
All the other times I just don't pay attention to you


By the way people, this is a forum. Disagreements make this what it is. That's why we come here, to argue.

And other dude, whatever his name is, please stop using big words, using them won't prove anything about intelligence. Not hating on you, just thought it was a rather pompous thing to read, because I pictured some middle age man trying to gather whatever former glory he had on some internet forum.


Anyway, continue


(I expect someone to bash me soon)</div>

You're probably about to get bashed, but not for the reason you'd expect



Oh yeah, and does anything go in this thread? Seems like a lot of back-and-forth bashing.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 21 2008, 08:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DynastYWarrioR6 @ Jul 21 2008, 09:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Man...cpaw...I'm with you on this one...mainly because you usually agree with me on the very few things I DO say here on this site. (I need allies)
All the other times I just don't pay attention to you


By the way people, this is a forum. Disagreements make this what it is. That's why we come here, to argue.

And other dude, whatever his name is, please stop using big words, using them won't prove anything about intelligence. Not hating on you, just thought it was a rather pompous thing to read, because I pictured some middle age man trying to gather whatever former glory he had on some internet forum.


Anyway, continue


(I expect someone to bash me soon)</div>

You're probably about to get bashed, but not for the reason you'd expect



Oh yeah, and does anything go in this thread? Seems like a lot of back-and-forth bashing.
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I say we take them all on
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DynastYWarrioR6 @ Jul 21 2008, 09:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Man...cpaw...I'm with you on this one...mainly because you usually agree with me on the very few things I DO say here on this site. (I need allies)
All the other times I just don't pay attention to you
</div>

Well that is complete ass. Who cares how many people agree with you. So much for objectivity, eh?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>(I expect someone to bash me soon)</div>

I agree with you


Also, we can go to town on whether Pat Summit would make a great NBA coach, and ignore what's important: no one can deny what she's achieved in women's basketball, and yet hasn't been offered a job in the NBA.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Jul 21 2008, 08:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DynastYWarrioR6 @ Jul 21 2008, 09:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Man...cpaw...I'm with you on this one...mainly because you usually agree with me on the very few things I DO say here on this site. (I need allies)
All the other times I just don't pay attention to you
</div>

Well that is complete ass. Who cares how many people agree with you. So much for objectivity, eh?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>(I expect someone to bash me soon)</div>

I agree with you


Also, we can go to town on whether Pat Summit would make a great NBA coach, and ignore what's important: no one can deny what she's achieved in women's basketball, and yet hasn't been offered a job in the NBA.
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Wait who disagrees with you? Pat Summit IS a good coach.
 
I don't think anyone thinks Summit isn't a good coach. The question is whether she would be effective coaching in the NBA.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Jul 21 2008, 08:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't think anyone thinks Summit isn't a good coach. The question is whether she would be effective coaching in the NBA.</div>

Why wouldn't she be effective?

As a coach she has a winning strategy and method to coaching. The only difference is that she coached college women. But when it comes to coaching, her winning philosophy will still be the same, she would just have different players under her than she is used to. I think she'd be a fine coach in the league, give her a couple of years, it'll show.

Only problem that MIGHT come up is whether NBA players would not listen to or disrespect a female coach. But they are being paid to play, so coach should not matter in my opinion.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DynastYWarrioR6 @ Jul 21 2008, 09:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Only problem that MIGHT come up is whether NBA players would not listen to or disrespect a female coach. But they are being paid to play, so coach should not matter in my opinion.</div>


The NBA is far from filled with these ideal people, but really I'm not doing this again haha. At the end of the day no team in the NBA feels that she would be as effective, because she has not gotten an offer.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Jul 21 2008, 08:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DynastYWarrioR6 @ Jul 21 2008, 09:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Only problem that MIGHT come up is whether NBA players would not listen to or disrespect a female coach. But they are being paid to play, so coach should not matter in my opinion.</div>


The NBA is far from filled with these ideal people, but really I'm not doing this again haha. At the end of the day no team in the NBA feels that she would be as effective, because she has not gotten an offer.
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It's sad....never given a chance there will be no answer.
 
lets sign her in 2010, corner the female demographic.

But really, she loses points for looking like Jackie McMullen
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (User01 @ Jul 21 2008, 05:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>i thought this thread was about coors light</div>
As did I, disappointing...this is pretty intense though.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jul 21 2008, 09:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>if you get rid of the verbosity you lose the valuable nuances of her posts!</div>

I think better of you to expect that.
 
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