Infringement of the 2nd amendment nullified by Ballot measure

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The police have all sorts of discretion. They don't ticket everyone who jaywalks. They have ticket quotas when the city needs the money. Sometimes they'll let you off a speeding ticket with a warning.
 
The police have all sorts of discretion. They don't ticket everyone who jaywalks. They have ticket quotas when the city needs the money. Sometimes they'll let you off a speeding ticket with a warning.

I don't think they usually let you out of a ticket because they've decided that speeding tickets are unconstitutional, though.

barfo
 
Not true at all. Many people have taken an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution, most Sheriffs and Police Chiefs and even ordinary people like myself. in doing so, we are all expected to interpret what the Constitutions means, indeed it is the duty of every citizen. Like one Chief said, his duty, is to the Constitution first and everything else in the line of duty next.

This new law simply directs the Sheriff to use the judgement he is required to use in any case, and forgo enforcing a gun law that he deems infringes on Constitutional rights. If you folks in Portland want to force him into enforcing laws he doesn't think is Constitutional, then you all need to get the Court involved, perhaps even the Supreme Court. Three Counties now have taken this path.
perhaps it should have been implemented in the counties where the residents agree to submit to the infringement of their right. Stuffing it on those that do not agree is egregious, forcing them to enforce the egregious is ridiculous.

Here's a suggestion for the next step. Coos County can pass a resolution that any income tax laws that violate the constitution are null and void, and y'all can stop paying your taxes.

barfo
 
It is a stupid law, passed by Portland, the majority of the States residents in a huge geographic area, disagree with it. Their needs are entirely different and since they hire and pay their law enforcement, it seems like reasonable solution. The Democrats that push this thing could have listened but that didn't server their agenda. Perhaps they crafted a fix for Multnomah county but forcing the same on the other counties of the State was ignorant as well as being against the rights ( the right to arms) of most citizens.

This.

What are these needs exactly? Why do you and your neighbors need to sell guns without any sort of background check? That law does nothing to limit gun ownership. It only makes it harder for the people who shouldn't own a gun to buy one.

Bullshit. It makes it MORE difficult for Law Abiding people to sell guns in PRIVATE sales. Fuck that if I'm going to some FFL to pay $50+ for a background check. Private sales are....wait for it.....PRIVATE. By enacting such a stupid law, what they are doing is putting money and control into people who have no business doing so; like FFLs. It does NOTHING to keep people safe.

And never-mind the transfer fee too. So you could potentially pay over $100 for both. Fucking bullshit. That's why I'm sticking to Armslist. And if a buyer REALLY wants to use an FFL, then THEY are paying all the fees; not me.
 
That's why I'm sticking to Armslist. And if a buyer REALLY wants to use an FFL, then THEY are paying all the fees; not me.

You sound like a reasonable person who has found a reasonable and legal way to sell a gun. Props!
 
Please read the 16th amendment then come back and tell us what your post means.

My post means that certain people think that the 16th amendment doesn't permit the current tax structure, and therefore according to their interpretation of the constitution, they don't owe income tax.

On the road to whackadoodle land, it's just one tiny step from where you are standing.

barfo
 
I don't think they usually let you out of a ticket because they've decided that speeding tickets are unconstitutional, though.

barfo

So what?

Cities are sanctuaries for "illegal" immigrants (which I'm fine with).

I can give you numerous more examples.
 
So what?

Cities are sanctuaries for "illegal" immigrants (which I'm fine with).

I can give you numerous more examples.

You're fine with that 7 time Felon Illegal in San Francisco who killed an innocent woman on the boardwalk?
 
I'm fine with the city being a sanctuary for immigrants.

Go tell that to the family of the murdered woman, who would still be alive had the Government been allowed to deport these people back to their own country.

And lock up this future death row inmate while they were at it.
 
Go tell that to the family of the murdered woman, who would still be alive had the Government been allowed to deport these people back to their own country.

And lock up this future death row inmate while they were at it.

Tell it to the millions of children you'd rip from their homes and families.

One anecdotal bad thing done by a bad person does not reflect on the people as a whole. Not even close.
 
Tell it to the millions of children you'd rip from their homes and families.

One anecdotal bad thing done by a bad person does not reflect on the people as a whole. Not even close.

The ol' children argument, huh? Are these the same children that our depleted healthcare system is FORCED to care for? And who are part of the pie of problems related to our staggering debt?

Maybe if they came here LEGALLY, they wouldn't run the risk of being "ripped from their homes" like Liberals want us to believe.
 
The ol' children argument, huh? Are these the same children that our depleted healthcare system is FORCED to care for? And who are part of the pie of problems related to our staggering debt?

Maybe if they came here LEGALLY, they wouldn't run the risk of being "ripped from their homes" like Liberals want us to believe.

Yeah, it's a terrible thing to take care of people who need it.

Is this not a free country? Why turn it into a prison with walls around it to keep the "bad" people out and us in?

Too funny.
 
Yeah, it's a terrible thing to take care of people who need it.

Is this not a free country? Why turn it into a prison with walls around it to keep the "bad" people out and us in?

Too funny.

LMAO. We can't even take care of our OWN citizens who were actually BORN in this country. And now you want us to take in millions of starving, disease-plagued people.....with what? With what money? With what housing? Our depleted and broken Welfare system? Ghettos and cheap mass housing?

Snort. Too funny indeed.
 
LMAO. We can't even take care of our OWN citizens who were actually BORN in this country. And now you want us to take in millions of starving, disease-plagued people.....with what? With what money? With what housing? Our depleted and broken Welfare system? Ghettos and cheap mass housing?

Snort. Too funny indeed.

They're not disease-plagued people. You lost it on that one alone. It is one of the most asinine things I've read on this site in a while.

These people pay taxes. If allowed to work legally they'd pay even more taxes. More than enough to pay their way and enough to pay for your social security down the road.
 
They're not disease-plagued people. You lost it on that one alone. It is one of the most asinine things I've read on this site in a while.

These people pay taxes. If allowed to work legally they'd pay even more taxes. More than enough to pay their way and enough to pay for your social security down the road.

Bullshit. That's Liberal reasoning, and I don't subscribe to such nonsense.

The illegals outside of every Home Depot DON'T pay taxes, nor do the millions of them who ARE unemployed (not every farm or landscaping company can take them, you know). The millions of illegal children who hog our healthcare every year DON'T pay for that healthcare, and nor do their families now with Obamacare. The rest of us have to pay for that crap, AND we have to pay for their healthcare too.
 
Bullshit. That's Liberal reasoning, and I don't subscribe to such nonsense.

The illegals outside of every Home Depot DON'T pay taxes, nor do the millions of them who ARE unemployed (not every farm or landscaping company can take them, you know). The millions of illegal children who hog our healthcare every year DON'T pay for that healthcare, and nor do their families now with Obamacare. The rest of us have to pay for that crap, AND we have to pay for their healthcare too.
They do pay taxes. Sales tax, gas tax, and many pay income tax, and more.

You don't get to choose what your taxes are spent on. That's really too bad. Those liberals surely would want to cut funding for your favorite programs.

Your taxes, my taxes, and the immigrants' taxes pay for government services. Some of us pay more than others. That's the price we pay for living in a free country.

I've never seen at the doctors' office, clinic, or hospital these millions of children somehow hogging our healthcare. Hogging our healthcare - you're making a joke, right?
 
Go tell that to the family of the murdered woman, who would still be alive had the Government been allowed to deport these people back to their own country.

And lock up this future death row inmate while they were at it.


This was a terrible tragic incident but it was not malicious. The suspect found the gun wrapped in a shirt on side of pier, picked it up and it went off. Seems like a better argument for better gun control rather than immigration control. He was incredibly remorseful and is in no way a cold blooded killer.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/06/us/san-francisco-killing/

Just found this aparnetly the gun belonged to a FED agent.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/07/us/san-francisco-killing/
 
This was a terrible tragic incident but it was not malicious. The suspect found the gun wrapped in a shirt on side of pier, picked it up and it went off. Seems like a better argument for better gun control rather than immigration control. He was incredibly remorseful and is in no way a cold blooded killer.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/06/us/san-francisco-killing/

Just found this aparnetly the gun belonged to a FED agent.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/07/us/san-francisco-killing/
Yep. It should be illegal to wrap a gun in a shirt and leave it on the pier.

Or something.
 
This was a terrible tragic incident but it was not malicious. The suspect found the gun wrapped in a shirt on side of pier, picked it up and it went off. Seems like a better argument for better gun control rather than immigration control. He was incredibly remorseful and is in no way a cold blooded killer.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/06/us/san-francisco-killing/

Just found this aparnetly the gun belonged to a FED agent.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/07/us/san-francisco-killing/

Bull Shit! There shouldn't be a person in this country that believes this bull;

""Then suddenly I heard that boom boom, three times," Lopez-Sanchez said, according to the station's transcript."

Each boom requires the trigger be pulled. It doesn't work all by it's lonesome.
 
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This was a terrible tragic incident but it was not malicious. The suspect found the gun wrapped in a shirt on side of pier, picked it up and it went off. Seems like a better argument for better gun control rather than immigration control. He was incredibly remorseful and is in no way a cold blooded killer.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/06/us/san-francisco-killing/

Just found this aparnetly the gun belonged to a FED agent.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/07/us/san-francisco-killing/

LMFAO, what the fuck? He was high as a fucking kite! He "found" a STOLEN firearm, and shot an innocent woman 3 fucking times! And he's already been convicted of 7 FELONIES.

Jesus, I've never read such brainwashed horseshit in my entire life!

Yep. It should be illegal to wrap a gun in a shirt and leave it on the pier.

Or something.

Oh obviously you believe this bullshit. Not surprised.

Bull Shit! There should be a person in this country that believes this bull;

""Then suddenly I heard that boom boom, three times," Lopez-Sanchez said, according to the station's transcript."

Each boom requires the trigger be pulled. It doesn't work all by it's lonesome.

This. You are fucking delusional if you believe this guy is some innocent angel who didn't know what the fuck he was doing. If he wasn't high and a criminal, then he....

Wait...I shouldn't have to argue reason and logic with this. It's fucking obvious what he did. Get a clue.

Jesus. Liberalism REALLY IS a fucking mental disorder. And to think I used to be a Liberal Democrat....SMH.
 
LMFAO, what the fuck? He was high as a fucking kite! He "found" a STOLEN firearm, and shot an innocent woman 3 fucking times! And he's already been convicted of 7 FELONIES.

Jesus, I've never read such brainwashed horseshit in my entire life!



Oh obviously you believe this bullshit. Not surprised.



This. You are fucking delusional if you believe this guy is some innocent angel who didn't know what the fuck he was doing. If he wasn't high and a criminal, then he....

Wait...I shouldn't have to argue reason and logic with this. It's fucking obvious what he did. Get a clue.

Jesus. Liberalism REALLY IS a fucking mental disorder. And to think I used to be a Liberal Democrat....SMH.

It's great to see you posting again but you need to go easy on the personal insults. Feel free to attack someone's post/opinion but not them personally.
 
Jade Falcon sounds like a stripper/pornstar name.

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Read it again JF, I made an error and it may have mislead you.

So....you weren't disagreeing with Donkiez? I was agreeing with you when you replied that what he said was bullshit.
 

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