Injury Exception (1 Viewer)

[RR7]

DISABLED PLAYER EXCEPTION -- This exception allows a team which is over the cap to acquire a replacement for a disabled player who will be out for the remainder of that season (if the player is disabled between July 1 and November 30) or the following season (if the player is disabled after November 30). This exception can also be granted in the event of a player's death. This exception can only be used to acquire one player. The maximum salary for the replacement player is 50% of the injured player's salary, or the average salary, whichever is less (see question number 25 for the definition of "average salary"). Approval from the league (based on a determination by an NBA-designated physician) is required for this exception to be used. This exception can be used to sign a free agent, or to create room to accept a salary in trade. When used for trade, the team may acquire a player whose salary (including any trade bonus) is up to 100% of this exception plus $100,000 (not 125%). Also see question number 20 for more information on the availability and use of this exception.

I believe this means we have a roughly 3.8 million dollar injury exception, once approved by the league, to find a replacement, through signing or trade. Wonder if we make use of that.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

I believe this means we have a roughly 3.8 million dollar injury exception, once approved by the league, to find a replacement, through signing or trade. Wonder if we make use of that.

I would hope so. I'm not counting heavily on Joel giving a lot of minutes and Camby & LA need a lot of help.

 

[Nikolokolus]

whoopdee damn doo

 

[maxiep]

I don't really know who's out there who could help us. Perhaps Dampier, but other teams have already passed on him, so there has to be a reason he's still available.

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

whoopdee damn doo

I am not ready to give up on this season. Yes, there is a close to zero chance of us winning a championship with Roy not being 100% and Oden being out. However, there are alot of things other players need to do this year and I am going to be happy watching them.

LA, Batum, Rudy, Armon, and Dante have to step up. Having players that are already proven in Miller, Camby, and Pryz helps this. Adding another with an exception would be a plus.

 

[RR7]

Another option is using the exception to take someone another team doesn't want on their salary, at the priceof a first round pick, the way OKC did with Kurt Thomas a few years back.

 

[maxiep]

Another option is using the exception to take someone another team doesn't want on their salary, at the priceof a first round pick, the way OKC did with Kurt Thomas a few years back.

Hmm, can we do that? I wasn't aware we could. Interesting. I'd rep you for this post, but I have to spread some more rep around.

 

[RR7]

Yeah, it says we can use it in trade as well. So say, I dunno, Utah was 2 million over the LT, and desperately wanted to get under. We take CJ Miles and their first. Give them a future second. Or something. Just using those players and team as an example. Or, even if a team was way over, but wanted to save money. At 3.8 million, if you took a 3 million dollar player from their team, with the LT, it's a savings of 6 million. When most firsts go for 3, I can see a team going for that, potentially.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I am not ready to give up on this season. Yes, there is a close to zero chance of us winning a championship with Roy not being 100% and Oden being out. However, there are alot of things other players need to do this year and I am going to be happy watching them.

LA, Batum, Rudy, Armon, and Dante have to step up. Having players that are already proven in Miller, Camby, and Pryz helps this. Adding another with an exception would be a plus.

You got all of that out me saying "whoopdee damn doo?" My only point is that a 3-4 million dollar injury execption isn't likely to yield much value.

 

[andalusian]

Yeah, it says we can use it in trade as well. So say, I dunno, Utah was 2 million over the LT, and desperately wanted to get under. We take CJ Miles and their first. Give them a future second. Or something. Just using those players and team as an example. Or, even if a team was way over, but wanted to save money. At 3.8 million, if you took a 3 million dollar player from their team, with the LT, it's a savings of 6 million. When most firsts go for 3, I can see a team going for that, potentially.

Maybe we can get someone like, say, Jarryd Bayless and NOH's first

 

[Denny Crane]

Injured player exception is really hard to get. The Blazers got one last season, but I think it was only after the roster was decimated by a number of injuries.

 

[RR7]

You got all of that out me saying "whoopdee damn doo?" My only point is that a 3-4 million dollar injury execption isn't likely to yield much value.

Maybe not. Maybe we don't use it. Maybe we can get a first round pick out of it. Maybe we can get a fill in player. I don't think anyone expects the exception to replace Oden's potential, but it's an option available to us and worth discussing.

 

[illmatic99]

Injured player exception is really hard to get. The Blazers got one last season, but I think it was only after the roster was decimated by a number of injuries.

3 season ending injuries and a retirement. 3 of those 4 being centers.

I think we are "decimated."

 

[RR7]

Injured player exception is really hard to get. The Blazers got one last season, but I think it was only after the roster was decimated by a number of injuries.

That's different. There is a roster exception, which we got lat season, when you have only like 9 healthy players. Then, there is this DPE, which is to help with signing a new player's salary to replace the injured one, for teams over the cap. It is what houston used to sign Ariza, when Yao was ruled out for the season. They got a DPE for the MLE amount.

 

[Denny Crane]

You have two open roster spots.

 

[RR7]

You have two open roster spots.

ok. What's your point?

 

[Denny Crane]

ok. What's your point?

I think the league won't grant any exception unless those two spots were filled and the players injured.

 

[RR7]

I think the league won't grant any exception unless those two spots were filled and the players injured.

Right. This is a different exception. One is for roster spots. One is for salary. The former, we used last season, as did GS. the latter is what I quoted in the OP.

 

[illmatic99]

RR7, do you know if it can be combined with a player in a trade, or is it like TE, in that it can only be traded on its own?

Right. This is a different exception. One is for roster spots. One is for salary. The former, we used last season, as did GS. the latter is what I quoted in the OP.

Ya, I believe we applied for one for RLEC, but I can't recall if we ever got it.

 

[RR7]

No, it can't. Can only be traded on its own, unfortunately.

 

[Denny Crane]

Right. This is a different exception. One is for roster spots. One is for salary. The former, we used last season, as did GS. the latter is what I quoted in the OP.

Right. Here's the part of the OP that I think is relevant:

"Approval from the league (based on a determination by an NBA-designated physician) is required for this exception to be used. "

And it seems rare that the league grants these exceptions. To continue quoting from that section of the CBA FAQ:

Teams sometimes have had difficulty getting the NBA to approve an injury exception. For example, Danny Manning tore an ACL toward the end of the 1997-98 season, yet the NBA did not approve the Suns for this exception. More recently, the Magic did not receive this exception in 2003 for Grant Hill. However, this exception was granted in the 1999 offseason to San Antonio, so they could replace Sean Elliott, who was disabled due to kidney problems. This exception was also granted to Charlotte soon after Bobby Phills was killed.

 

[RR7]

they just granted one a year ago to Houston for Yao. What makes our situation any different than that?

Also, we don't have any open roster spots.

 

[Denny Crane]

This is interesting:

http://knickerblogger.net/knicks-denied-disabled-player-exception-for-mobley/

Knicks denied Disabled Player Exception for Mobley
January 31st, 2009

The league, Walsh said, essentially determined that Mobley’s heart condition, which forced him to retire shortly after the Knicks acquired him from the Clippers on Nov. 21, but with which he had played this season, was a pre-existing condition.

 

[Denny Crane]

they just granted one a year ago to Houston for Yao. What makes our situation any different than that?

Also, we don't have any open roster spots.

My bad, you don't have any open roster spots, but you've only played like 11 players all season long and 2 of them very few minutes.

 

[Nikolokolus]

You have two open roster spots.

How? We have fifteen players under contract.

 

[RR7]

right, but the roster spots have absolutely nothing to do with it.

 

[Nikolokolus]

My bad, you don't have any open roster spots, but you've only played like 11 players all season long and 2 of them very few minutes.

You mean Patty Mills and Sean Marks? Thank god for that.

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

they just granted one a year ago to Houston for Yao. What makes our situation any different than that?

Also, we don't have any open roster spots.

They also granted one the first time Oden had surgery. The key is that the injury happened before Nov 30th. I would be shocked it we did not get it.

As said, it can be used just like the MLE or as a trade exemption. It is atleast something and hopefully Cho can do something with it.

 

[Denny Crane]

They also granted one the first time Oden had surgery. The key is that the injury happened before Nov 30th. I would be shocked it we did not get it.

As said, it can be used just like the MLE or as a trade exemption. It is atleast something and hopefully Cho can do something with it.

Oden played in an NBA game that season.

I hate to be argumentative about this, but the league didn't grant it for Orlando when they had Grant Hill sitting out entire seasons and his career looking like it was over.

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

You got all of that out me saying "whoopdee damn doo?" My only point is that a 3-4 million dollar injury execption isn't likely to yield much value.

We are not going to get Kobe with it, but can be useful.