Interesting bit over at Hoopsworld touches KP situation

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Can someone please explain to me again why Paul Allen would even think of getting rid of Pritchard? I think I heard an explanation once, but it must not have made sense because I can't remember it. Pritchard is one of the best things that ever happened to this franchise, and I can't imagine him getting shipped out.
 
Can someone please explain to me again why Paul Allen would even think of getting rid of Pritchard? I think I heard an explanation once, but it must not have made sense because I can't remember it. Pritchard is one of the best things that ever happened to this franchise, and I can't imagine him getting shipped out.

Because he thinks that KP and Penn duped him into paying Penn's contract at a much higher inflated rate than should have happened, by misrepresenting an offer from Minnesota and making it much larger than it really was. If that is the case, I don't blame him for being mad. It is no different than stealing from Paul Allen, is it not?
 
There is a blurb over on hoopsworld.com that mentions the Nuggets are looking at hiring a Clippers executive to replace Warkentein, who is expected to head to Portland. I don't know how much of it is true though, because who in their right mind would hire anybody from the Clippers organization.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/HeadlineStories.asp?lc=NBA&c=1&TEAM_ID=&PLAYER_ID=&hd=20100415#STORY_25500

The language regarding that fat fuck Warkentien was that he "expressed a desire to head to Portland", which is different than "heading to Portland".
 
Because he thinks that KP and Penn duped him into paying Penn's contract at a much higher inflated rate than should have happened, by misrepresenting an offer from Minnesota and making it much larger than it really was. If that is the case, I don't blame him for being mad. It is no different than stealing from Paul Allen, is it not?

also for a few other things have been speculated like playing both sides during the Roy contract, trying to pay Hedo a massive amount, and talking to everyone about how he is underpaid.

Are these real reasons? I have no idea.
 
Because he thinks that KP and Penn duped him into paying Penn's contract at a much higher inflated rate than should have happened, by misrepresenting an offer from Minnesota and making it much larger than it really was. If that is the case, I don't blame him for being mad. It is no different than stealing from Paul Allen, is it not?

Lots of people from the Blazer organization have stolen from Paul Allen

Ruben Patterson
Zach Randolph
Damon Stoudamire
Darius Miles
Theo Ratliff
Raef LaFrentz
etc.
etc.

Penn, by comparison, was cheap.
 
Lots of people from the Blazer organization have stolen from Paul Allen

Ruben Patterson
Zach Randolph
Damon Stoudamire
Darius Miles
Theo Ratliff
Raef LaFrentz
etc.
etc.

Penn, by comparison, was cheap.
There is a huge difference between overpaying in an honest situation, like with the players, vs. overpaying because people were lying and deceiving you.
 
Lots of people from the Blazer organization have stolen from Paul Allen

Ruben Patterson
Zach Randolph
Damon Stoudamire
Darius Miles
Theo Ratliff
Raef LaFrentz
etc.
etc.

Penn, by comparison, was cheap.

The difference being, with the NBA collective bargaining agreement, there was nothing Paul could do with those guys. But with Penn, he can. Nobody likes being swindled. I am pretty sure if the NBA would have allowed the Blazers to cut those guys outright, it would have happened.
 
If the Blazers fire KP and bring in Warkenstein, I'm giving him no margin for error. He better be perfect. Hell, I'll probably rip him before he even makes a deal. I imagine Quick and Canzano will be all over him as well.
 
Did any of you hear the clip relating to the Blazers from an interview with David Stern that they played on 95.5 yesterday? I couldn't help but note that Stern acknowledged the Blazers for becoming a model franchise and gave credit to Larry Miller and his crew for the transformation. No mention at all of KP that I heard. I have a hard time believing that the omission was accidental. KP's toast.
 
He hasn't done everything right, but to fire Pritchard based on the Penn situation is asinine...

Paul Allen is a fucking idiot if he fires KP.......

Roy, LA, Batum, signing Howard, nabbing Camby & Miller...Camby & Miller are the reason this team is the fucking playoffs...

and Cunningham & Pendergraph have also shown themselves to be astute 2nd round pickups w\o the injury concerns of a guy named Blair that some of you can't resist harping about...

Yeah so fire your GM for taking this injury plagued group and acquiring key veteran pieces that allowed them to make the playoffs regardless....
 
There is a huge difference between overpaying in an honest situation, like with the players, vs. overpaying because people were lying and deceiving you.

I would say Theo at least engaged in the blatant deception of pretending to give a shit before getting a big contract.
 
Did any of you hear the clip relating to the Blazers from an interview with David Stern that they played on 95.5 yesterday? I couldn't help but note that Stern acknowledged the Blazers for becoming a model franchise and gave credit to Larry Miller and his crew for the transformation. No mention at all of KP that I heard. I have a hard time believing that the omission was accidental. KP's toast.

Well Larry Miller is the President, KP is just the GM.

The guy up top get's the credit for turning around the company.
 
Well Larry Miller is the President, KP is just the GM.

The guy up top get's the credit for turning around the company.

Yep they do. And in my corporate experience, very few of them have anything to do with it. Except for collecting a way overfat paycheck.
 
If we DO get rid of Pritchard and replace hm with Warkentein (which would be idiotic) I at least hope Warkentein trades Ty Lawson to Portland before he comes here.
 
Is Wankstain the guy who gets credit for building the current "Thuggets?"

If so, can't wait for the return of herb smoking, fan hating, wankster, malcontents.

It's been a while. I kind of miss it.

:rolleyes:
 
Can someone please explain to me again why Paul Allen would even think of getting rid of Pritchard?

The only good theory I've heard is that Paul Allen doesn't think Pritchard is going to be able to push the team over the top. Paul thinks that KP's done a good job putting together a talented enough team, but that when push comes to shove he's not going to be able to make the deals that are necessary to put us into championship contention.

Maybe Paul thinks Warkentein is the guy. But if they do that I'm gonna be PISSED that they didn't just make him GM back in 2003 rather than forcing us to suffer through the Patternash era.
 
Can someone please explain to me again why Paul Allen would even think of getting rid of Pritchard? I think I heard an explanation once, but it must not have made sense because I can't remember it. Pritchard is one of the best things that ever happened to this franchise, and I can't imagine him getting shipped out.

Kind of like why Van Halen broke up (or Guns and Roses) . . . too many big egos.

PA is not a guy who likes to get pushed around or will tolerate insubordination. I suspect in this case a little bit of both was going on and PA has too big of an ego to let it go eventhough KP is good for the organization . . . that is my take.
 
Obviously, at this point, there is some bigtime friction going on between Allen/Vulcan and Pritchard. People can pooh-pooh Pritchard not sitting next to Allen all they want, but a public appearance would send a very strong message, and in a league about marketing, it's not like the Blazers would miss out on sending a message. Last night, Steve Ballmer of all people was sitting in what used to be Pritchard's seat.

Just like our little message board here, the Blazer organization is one big soap opera that included many zany characters.
 
Kind of like why Van Halen broke up (or Guns and Roses) . . . too many big egos.

An interesting dichotomy of talented groups breaking up.

With Van Halen, we had all sizzle and no substance David Lee Roth decide that he needed to express himself musically, and the Van Halen brothers wanting to stay with their own style of music. The end result? Yankee Rose and California Girls by Roth, which essentially ended his career as a serious rock musician, and Sammy Hagar for the remaining three in VH, which essentially ended their careers as non-sellouts (Right Now Pepsi ad comes to mind).

With G n' R, we had all sizzle and all substance Axl Rose decide he wanted to become some sort of rock composer, a modern day Jim Steinman, if you will, while the remaining members wanted to stay more rock in their roots. The first result of this creative struggle were rock ballads like November Rain. As a serious Guns fan, I shudder to think what Sweet Child O' Mine would have sounded like had it been written and recorded after Axl's power grab, which by coincidence coincided with his banging of supermodel Stephanie Seymour, who he had inserted into GnR videos. Well, enough was enough, and we know what happened next. The supernova known as Axl Rose imploded, finally reappearing years later on an MTV stage with Buckethead and an odd collection of musical misfits; the remaining members of G n' R did various projects (with Velvet Relvolver being by FAR the best, but again destroyed by an egotistical frontman), and likely living off of G n' R royalites to this day.

So, as it pertains to the Blazers, the question is this. Is Paul Allen the diva front man who wants to impose his will on an organization, or is Kevin Pritchard the person out of step in the creative process of the Blazers? If it's Allen, then this cycle is never going to end, but if it's Pritchard, it possibly will end with the next GM.

Or, will this be like Cream breaking up, where the real talent goes on to greatness, and the others go back to mediocrity? Time will tell, won't it.
 
The only good theory I've heard is that Paul Allen doesn't think Pritchard is going to be able to push the team over the top. Paul thinks that KP's done a good job putting together a talented enough team, but that when push comes to shove he's not going to be able to make the deals that are necessary to put us into championship contention./QUOTE]

I think this is his thinking to be honest; I don't think KP can make the big deals to push us over the top either.
 
Because he thinks that KP and Penn duped him into paying Penn's contract at a much higher inflated rate than should have happened, by misrepresenting an offer from Minnesota and making it much larger than it really was. If that is the case, I don't blame him for being mad. It is no different than stealing from Paul Allen, is it not?

also for a few other things have been speculated like playing both sides during the Roy contract, trying to pay Hedo a massive amount, and talking to everyone about how he is underpaid.

Are these real reasons? I have no idea.

You know, if there is any substance to these accusations, then I totally don't blame PA, and it would make sense why Penn was immediately fired and why KP will certainly be fired. I have no doubt in my mind KP is dead man walking. None. And truly, the only logical reason why this has all gone down are the reasons I quoted above. It's the only thing I've heard so far that makes sense of the situation.
 
The only good theory I've heard is that Paul Allen doesn't think Pritchard is going to be able to push the team over the top. Paul thinks that KP's done a good job putting together a talented enough team, but that when push comes to shove he's not going to be able to make the deals that are necessary to put us into championship contention.
That's totally ridiculous. Who got us Howard, Miller, and Camby, for God's sake! Those three, along with our young guys, can definitely get us a championship, provided we can stay healthy.
 
Can someone please explain to me again why Paul Allen would even think of getting rid of Pritchard? I think I heard an explanation once, but it must not have made sense because I can't remember it. Pritchard is one of the best things that ever happened to this franchise, and I can't imagine him getting shipped out.
Paul misses the Jail Blazers days and hopes Warkentein can replicate those inglorious days once again? :dunno: There is no god damn way Warkentein is in KP's class as a GM/Chemistry Major.
 
There is a blurb over on hoopsworld.com that mentions the Nuggets are looking at hiring a Clippers executive to replace Warkentein, who is expected to head to Portland. I don't know how much of it is true though, because who in their right mind would hire anybody from the Clippers organization.

KP recently hired Marcus Camby. :biglaugh:
 
If Paul Allen is really that impatient and dissatified in KP because he doesn't make enough random big-time trades, then he's dumber than the dumbest poster on this board. KP has done an amazing job redefining and growing the Blazers, and that includes the probably 100 deals KP DIDN'T make that he could have.
 
Paul misses the Jail Blazers days and hopes Warkentein can replicate those inglorious days once again? :dunno: There is no god damn way Warkentein is in KP's class as a GM/Chemistry Major.

What has "chemistry" won the Blazers?

And remind me again which GM has built the teams with the better records... ?

Ed O.
 

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