Interesting Tony Parker speculation

[Nikolokolus]

I really hope not.

And if we trade Batum for Paker I'll fucking riot.

I guess I just don't see Nate (or Allen) signing off on this. If the organization had to hem and haw and grit their teeth over the inclusion of Nicolas in a CP3 swap then I can't imagine they'd readily part with him for a guy a tier below that.

 

[Masbee]

At first I would have been willing to give up Batum but the more I think about it, I really don't think TP would be worth it, especially on the Blazers. Parker is, as others have pointed out, a notch better than Miller. But, what TP is good and bad at are the same things that Miller is good and bad at. And that style does not mesh very well with the rest of the team. Parker is not a good outside shot and not a great defender. He is excellent driving with the ball in his hand and either scoring or kicking the ball out. The Blazers really need to space the floor. I would almost rather have a slight total talent downgrade at the PG spot but have that PG be better at shooting.

What I am looking for in a Blazer PG. Get the ball to the bigs and Roy and be good at pic and roll offense. Shoots at least 35% from 3pt land. Can defend the quicker guards. Those are the main criteria. I like having a PG that can finish at the rim and create for himself, but I think with our current roster those talents are less important.

So, you want a fusion of Steve Nash and Rajon Rondo?

I'll take it. Where is that guy?

 

[Minstrel]

I think people are way too hard on Andre Miller for his performance in the playoffs. The guy lit up Phoenix in game one, but got zero help from his teammates after that, and the Suns honed in on him. If Roy had been playing at 100%, or even 80%, Miller would have continued to have a great series.

Agreed. Miller totally exploited Steve Nash's defense and would have continued to do so if Roy had been going at full strength. No way that Phoenix uses their best defender on Miller if they have to contend with Roy.

 

[Nikolokolus]

So, you want a fusion of Steve Nash and Rajon Rondo?

I'll take it. Where is that guy?

Unfortunately he's the starting point guard for the Utah Jazz

 

[Idog1976]

Basically how I feel, except I take offense to your final comment. The rumoured CP3 deals are NOT dead, they are only sleeping.

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[EGame]

Unfortunately he's the starting point guard for the Utah Jazz

Chris Paul as well? Dude can shoot and pass and everything you want in a PG.

 

[Minstrel]

Unfortunately he's the starting point guard for the Utah Jazz

Chris Paul is even better. And Portland is close to getting him. Why we even talking about Tony Parker?

 

[Rastapopoulos]

So, you want a fusion of Steve Nash and Rajon Rondo?
I'll take it. Where is that guy?

Ricky Rubio!!!!

 

[Idog1976]

The big red flag for me is that Parker's game is based on his quicks and with all of the injuries he's suffered in the past few years I wonder if he isn't starting his decline early. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have him, but I'd explore every option besides including Nic (Rudy, Bayless, JPEC, Miller, Koponen, Claver, Freeland, etc.). Another thing that I'd worry about is that TP has never exactly been the greatest defender, and being left with only Matthews to guard the wing puts us right back in the position we've been in for years -- porous perimeter D, leaving a huge mess for the bigs to clean up

You summed up my Parker concerns beautifully. Repped.

 

[EGame]

Chris Paul is even better. And Portland is close to getting him. Why we even talking about Tony Parker?

This is news to me? Perhaps "was" is a better choice of word than is?

 

[Natebishop3]

I don't understand why we are all assuming that Batum would be part of the deal. The guy only said that Nate mentioned something about matching and TP. Nothing about Batum.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2855kh9

Parker/Williams/Johnson
Roy/Bayless
Batum/Matthews/Babbitt
Aldridge/Pendergraph/Cunningham
Oden/Camby/Ebekwe (I can dream)

 

[Nikolokolus]

Chris Paul as well? Dude can shoot and pass and everything you want in a PG.

Go get 'em!

 

[EGame]

Go get 'em!

Rudy and the Great Babbitt should be good for the Hornets. Nice backup SG in Rudy, and a stud starting SF. It is a little hard for to give up such a stud in Babbitt, but ultimately, I think I would do it.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Ricky Rubio!!!!

So did Rubio magically develop a jump shot in the past couple of weeks?

 

[Nikolokolus]

Rudy and the Great Babbitt should be good for the Hornets. Nice backup SG in Rudy, and a stud starting SF. It is a little hard for to give up such a stud in Babbitt, but ultimately, I think I would do it.

You forgot green font.

 

[Natebishop3]

So did Rubio magically develop a jump shot in the past couple of weeks?

He's been sand bagging it to throw the Wolves off. He learned this trick from Rudy.

 

[EGame]

You forgot green font.

The Great Babbitt will no be pleased you suggest I use green font. He does not think sarcasm is funny.

 

[Chuck Taylor]

If we have a deal in place that we like for Tony Parker...theres no way we should let the Wes Matthews decision affect it. If Utah matches, we'll be able to find another Wes Matthews type guy (probably at a better price!)

 

[Mediocre Man]

If we have a deal in place that we like for Tony Parker...theres no way we should let the Wes Matthews decision affect it. If Utah matches, we'll be able to find another Wes Matthews type guy (probably at a better price!)

I said this beofre, and I think I agree with it even more now.

 

[craigehlo]

I heard coach nate say, "So if they don't match we have a green light on TP"

Wonder if he misheard Nate from a few row back. Maybe he said "CP"?

One can dream.

 

[andalusian]

Wonder if he misheard Nate from a few row back. Maybe he said "CP"?

He said HCP.

 

[barfo]

If we have a deal in place that we like for Tony Parker...theres no way we should let the Wes Matthews decision affect it. If Utah matches, we'll be able to find another Wes Matthews type guy (probably at a better price!)

Actually, it is hard to imagine any deal depending on whether Utah matches or not, unless the deal is a trade of Roy. If we trade Roy, then it actually matters if we get Matthews. Otherwise...

So I guess I think this is bunk. We surely aren't trading Roy for Tony Parker.

barfo

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I think Matthews is going to see more time at 3 than at 2, so the way to parse the supposed overheard-Nate-conversation is:
"If we get Matthews, that's a solid 3, so we can afford to trade our one remaining 3 from last season for Tony Parker"
That, and the fact that the Spurs have long been after Batum, is the reason I think any trade for Parker includes Batum.

("But," you protest indignantly, "Matthews is too short to be a SF! And didn't he play SG for the Jazz?"
"Psshaw," I retort imperiously, "SF and SG are basically interchangeable in Sloan's system, and height is just a number. Matthews guarded the biggest baddest SF outside of LeBron James in the playoffs, so it's not like he can't handle it." You retire chastened.)

 

[Natebishop3]

I think Matthews is going to see more time at 3 than at 2, so the way to parse the supposed overheard-Nate-conversation is:
"If we get Matthews, that's a solid 3, so we can afford to trade our one remaining 3 from last season for Tony Parker"
That, and the fact that the Spurs have long been after Batum, is the reason I think any trade for Parker includes Batum.

("But," you protest indignantly, "Matthews is too short to be a SF! And didn't he play SG for the Jazz?"
"Psshaw," I retort imperiously, "SF and SG are basically interchangeable in Sloan's system, and height is just a number. Matthews guarded the biggest baddest SF outside of LeBron James in the playoffs, so it's not like he can't handle it." You retire chastened.)

You are a cantankerous old codger.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Not to question this wonderful piece of speculation, but has Parker EVER been referred to as "TP"? (Let alone Chris Paul as "CP") Or is this devilishly clever code from Nate?

 

[Rastapopoulos]

You are a cantankerous old codger.

Who you calling old?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

If we have a deal in place that we like for Tony Parker...theres no way we should let the Wes Matthews decision affect it.

Actually, it is hard to imagine any deal depending on whether Utah matches or not, unless the deal is a trade of Roy.

The only way I see Matthews affecting a TP trade decision is if Bayless is involved; ie, "Now that we have a new backup SG, we can get rid of this uber-athletic combo guard who is filling both backup guard roles right now." Poor logic, I admit, but I wouldn't put it past our front office.

 

[Ed O]

I think Matthews is going to see more time at 3 than at 2, so the way to parse the supposed overheard-Nate-conversation is:
"If we get Matthews, that's a solid 3, so we can afford to trade our one remaining 3 from last season for Tony Parker"
That, and the fact that the Spurs have long been after Batum, is the reason I think any trade for Parker includes Batum.

I agree. Matthews can pretty easily play the small forward spot, as he did at MU, and acquiring him (as opposed to not acquiring anyone) makes Batum that much more expendible.

Or Bayless, of course, but I can't believe they'd let a lack of a backup to replace Jerryd in the rotation stop them from pulling the trigger on Parker.

Ed O.

 

[barfo]

Are there any Native Americans in the league?

Maybe Nate said "teepee".

barfo

 

[Nikolokolus]

I agree. Matthews can pretty easily play the small forward spot, as he did at MU, and acquiring him (as opposed to not acquiring anyone) makes Batum that much more expendible.

Or Bayless, of course, but I can't believe they'd let a lack of a backup to replace Jerryd in the rotation stop them from pulling the trigger on Parker.

Ed O.

I guess they drafted Williams and Johnson for some reason (maybe?)