Politics Iran: U.S. "The Great Satan"

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http://www.westernjournalism.com/as...dium=WesternJournalism&utm_content=2015-09-09

Iran has its eyes on the destruction of Israel, even as President Obama is focused on the latest round of political support for his controversial nuclear deal with Iran, according to statements from its leader.

On Wednesday, Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei referred to the United States as “The Great Satan” and gleefully predicted the destruction of Israel. Comments posted to Khamenei’s official Twitter account repeated themes expressed in speeches in Tehran earlier Wednesday.

“After negotiations, in Zionist regime they said they had no more concern about Iran for next 25 years; I’d say: Firstly, you will not see next 25 years; God willing, there will be nothing as Zionist regime by next 25 years,” Khamenei wrote on Twitter. “Secondly, until then, struggling, heroic and jihadi morale will leave no moment of serenity for Zionists.”

The text is imposed over a photograph showing what appears to be Khamenei walking on an Israeli flag painted on a sidewalk. Further postings on Twitter were filled with anti-American rhetoric.

“We approved talks with the United States about [the] nuclear issue specifically. We have not allowed talks with the US in other fields and we [do] not negotiate with them,” Khamenei wrote. Another post said further talks would be “a tool for penetration and imposing their demands.”

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

lol this Nuke deal isn't going to end well

 

[HomerLovesKoolAid]

HomerLovesKoolAid: Iran: "The great stuck-in-the-dark-ages-batshit-crazy-religious-wacko-motherfuckers"

 

[Denny Crane]

http://www.people-press.org/2015/09/08/support-for-iran-nuclear-agreement-falls/

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Both sides get a ton of political mileage out of "hating" each other. The US is the Great Satan while Iran is the head of the Axis of Evil. The truth is Iran is one of the more democratic countries in the middle east and their citizens, especially women, enjoy much more freedom and rights than the citizens of our best friend and ally Saudi Arabia.

 

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Both sides get a ton of political mileage out of "hating" each other. The US is the Great Satan while Iran is the head of the Axis of Evil. The truth is Iran is one of the more democratic countries in the middle east and their citizens, especially women, enjoy much more freedom and rights than the citizens of our best friend and ally Saudi Arabia.

What a load of fucking shit!

 

[SlyPokerDog]

What a load of fucking shit!

Awesome! That's the spirit! It is a very real possibility that Saudi Arabia is going to meltdown into civil war in the next 5 to 10 years and with us being besties we're going to end up putting our troops in the middle of it.

Here are some things that women in Iran can do that women in Saudi Arabia can not:

Go anywhere without a chaperone.
Drive a car.
Wear clothes or make-up that "show off their beauty."
Interact with men.
Go swimming.
Compete in sports. Earlier this year Saudi Arabia proposed hosting the summer Olympics but it would be for men only, no female events would be allowed. When Saudi Arabia for the first time ever sent female athletes to the Olympics in London the women were publicly denounced as prostitutes and the women's Olympic program has since been shut down.
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[magnifier661]

Awesome! That's the spirit! It is a very real possibility that Saudi Arabia is going to meltdown into civil war in the next 5 to 10 years and with us being besties we're going to end up putting our troops in the middle of it.

Here are some things that women in Iran can do that women in Saudi Arabia can not:

Go anywhere without a chaperone.
Drive a car.
Wear clothes or make-up that "show off their beauty."
Interact with men.
Go swimming.
Compete in sports. Earlier this year Saudi Arabia proposed hosting the summer Olympics but it would be for men only, no female events would be allowed. When Saudi Arabia for the first time ever sent female athletes to the Olympics in London the women were publicly denounced as prostitutes and the women's Olympic program has since been shut down.
Try on clothes when shopping.

Who gives a flying fuck what their woman can do when their leaders want to obliterate their neighboring country and would want nothing more than to kill every american?

That's like saying Ted Bundy murdered all those people but is a good person because he paid his taxes.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Who gives a flying fuck what their woman can do when their leaders want to obliterate their neighboring country and would want nothing more than to kill every american?

Listen, if Iran complies with the nuclear deal, crippling economic sanctions are going to be lifted. The average Iranian citizen is going to enjoy more prosperity and there will be a flood of western goods and products into the country. The average citizen is going to like this and will have a more realistic and positive view of the west including America. This is a bit of a threat and problem for the Ayatollah and his power base. They seized power overthrowing the Shah while declaring him to be a puppet of the US. They feel they have to keep up the rhetoric against the Great Satan to stay in power. They can't suddenly go from America is evil to America is not so bad. I'm not defending them, just explaining that the average Iranian citizen is not an American and Israel hating crazy person. IMO the best way to deal with Iran in the future is not to answer the crazy rhetoric of their leaders with crazy rhetoric of our own.

 

[GriLtCheeZ]

Who gives a flying fuck what their woman can do when their leaders want to obliterate their neighboring country and would want nothing more than to kill every american?

That's like saying Ted Bundy murdered all those people but is a good person because he paid his taxes.

This deal scales back Iran's nuclear program, why are you against that?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Almost all of the 9/11 peeps were Saudis. So was bin laden.

 

[Denny Crane]

Listen, if Iran complies with the nuclear deal, crippling economic sanctions are going to be lifted. The average Iranian citizen is going to enjoy more prosperity and there will be a flood of western goods and products into the country. The average citizen is going to like this and will have a more realistic and positive view of the west including America. This is a bit of a threat and problem for the Ayatollah and his power base. They seized power overthrowing the Shah while declaring him to be a puppet of the US. They feel they have to keep up the rhetoric against the Great Satan to stay in power. They can't suddenly go from America is evil to America is not so bad. I'm not defending them, just explaining that the average Iranian citizen is not an American and Israel hating crazy person. IMO the best way to deal with Iran in the future is not to answer the crazy rhetoric of their leaders with crazy rhetoric of our own.

If the economic sanctions are lifted, Iran will spend many newfound $billions arming terrorist groups like Hamas and Hezbollah.
It doesn't matter what the average citizen there wants.

 

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If the economic sanctions are lifted, Iran will spend many newfound $billions arming terrorist groups like Hamas and Hezbollah.
It doesn't matter what the average citizen there wants.

Exactly this... I think some of these people think that Iran's leadership think like Americans...

 

[magnifier661]

Listen, if Iran complies with the nuclear deal, crippling economic sanctions are going to be lifted. The average Iranian citizen is going to enjoy more prosperity and there will be a flood of western goods and products into the country. The average citizen is going to like this and will have a more realistic and positive view of the west including America. This is a bit of a threat and problem for the Ayatollah and his power base. They seized power overthrowing the Shah while declaring him to be a puppet of the US. They feel they have to keep up the rhetoric against the Great Satan to stay in power. They can't suddenly go from America is evil to America is not so bad. I'm not defending them, just explaining that the average Iranian citizen is not an American and Israel hating crazy person. IMO the best way to deal with Iran in the future is not to answer the crazy rhetoric of their leaders with crazy rhetoric of our own.

If you believe for a second that the Iranian government will feel good about America because we lift our sanctions, then I got a ice igloo I want to sell you in Arizona

 

[3RA1N1AC]

America literally overthrew the democratically elected Iranian leader and replaced him with a puppet dictator in order to steal all of their wealth.

Can you really blame them for holding a grudge? Some people just can't see the forrest for the trees.

 

[Natebishop3]

America literally overthrew the democratically elected Iranian leader and replaced him with a puppet dictator in order to steal all of their wealth.

Can you really blame them for holding a grudge? Some people just can't see the forrest for the trees.

Maybe our government IS the great satan?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Maybe our government IS the great satan?

It's certainly something that should be looked at with an impartial eye.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

If you believe for a second that the Iranian government will feel good about America because we lift our sanctions, then I got a ice igloo I want to sell you in Arizona

Did I say the government would feel good? No, I said the average citizen.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

If the economic sanctions are lifted, Iran will spend many newfound $billions arming terrorist groups like Hamas and Hezbollah.
It doesn't matter what the average citizen there wants.

We have to offer them something to shut down their nuclear program. Or do you think we should just go in there and shut it down by force?

 

[magnifier661]

Did I say the government would feel good? No, I said the average citizen.

Unfortunately the average citizen doesn't control the country.

 

[magnifier661]

We have to offer them something to shut down their nuclear program. Or do you think we should just go in there and shut it down by force?

How did that work for the North Korean Nuclear program 15 years ago?

 

[Denny Crane]

We have to offer them something to shut down their nuclear program. Or do you think we should just go in there and shut it down by force?

Maybe sponsoring terrorism should have been part of the negotiation.

Duh.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

How did that work for the North Korean Nuclear program 15 years ago?

Pretty fucking awesome! Look at the prosperity that has given them.

North Korea at night.

 

[magnifier661]

Pretty fucking awesome! Look at the prosperity that has given them.

North Korea at night.

Yep and sanctions didn't work then, it isn't working now, and won't until we take out their leadership. Assuming that you can entice a government by eliminating sanctions has historically not worked.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-pacific-11813699

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Wait, so north Korea is a nuclear powerhouse now? WE NEED TO INVADE THEM! INVADE EVERYONE EXCEPT SAUDI ARABIA!

 

[SlyPokerDog]

The real threat to the USA, the one that should be keeping us awake at night is not Iran, it's Pakistan. They have the 3rd largest nuclear arsenal in the world. They are so paranoid of us, their best friend and ally, they routinely take their nuclear weapons, load them into nondescript trucks and drive them around their country so we don't know where they are. The chances that some radical group hijacks one of these trucks and gets their hands on a nuclear weapon is insanely high. And if one of these trucks is hijacked do you honestly think Pakistan is going to say a fucking thing?

The wack job leaders of Iran can say Death to America and Israel all they want but it's going to be our friend and ally in Pakistan that is going to make it happen.

Do I want Iran and North Korea to have nuclear weapons? Fuck no! But for the safety of the average American and the world, Pakistan is the number one threat.

 

[Denny Crane]

The real threat to the USA, the one that should be keeping us awake at night is not Iran, it's Pakistan. They have the 3rd largest nuclear arsenal in the world. They are so paranoid of us, their best friend and ally, they routinely take their nuclear weapons, load them into nondescript trucks and drive them around their country so we don't know where they are. The chances that some radical group hijacks one of these trucks and gets their hands on a nuclear weapon is insanely high. And if one of these trucks is hijacked do you honestly think Pakistan is going to say a fucking thing?

The wack job leaders of Iran can say Death to America and Israel all they want but it's going to be our friend and ally in Pakistan that is going to make it happen.

Do I want Iran and North Korea to have nuclear weapons? Fuck no! But for the safety of the average American and the world, Pakistan is the number one threat.

Good idea to bomb Pakistan with drones.

Thanks Obama.

 

[magnifier661]

Wait, so north Korea is a nuclear powerhouse now? WE NEED TO INVADE THEM! INVADE EVERYONE EXCEPT SAUDI ARABIA!

They have nuclear bombs. The bombs they have are 10x more powerful than the ones dropped in Japan. So you tell me if they aren't a major threat?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Yeah but they only want to blow up India, not precious Israel.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

They have nuclear bombs. The bombs they have are 10x more powerful than the ones dropped in Japan. So you tell me if they aren't a major threat?

I don't know, is China a major threat? They have missiles that can actually deliver said bombs.