IRS Targeted Conservative Groups

[maxiep]

Here's one of the terrifying faces of the Tea Party. What she said is perfect: http://althouse.blogspot.com/2013/06/i-am-not-here-as-serf-or-vassal-i-am.html

"I am not here as a serf or vassal. I am not begging my lords for mercy. I’m a born free American woman, wife, mother and citizen. And I’m telling my government that you’ve forgotten your place. It’s not your responsibility to look out for my well-being, and to monitor my speech. It’s not your right to assert an agenda. Your post, the post that you occupy, exists to preserve American liberty. You’ve sworn to perform that duty. And you have faltered."

 

[Denny Crane]

That is likely to be true.

But, the investigations have just started.

So, how the hell do you know?

Answer: you don't. You have made up your mind in advance.

Pretty lame.

My position is innocent until proven guilty. Others' positions seem to be he's guilty of all Nixon's crime without any proof at all.

Which is lame? Do tell?

 

[MARIS61]

Stupid beyond all comprehension.

Opinions like this are destroying what used to be great about America.

If you don't want to continue to embarrass yourself, then read some of the news accounts of what the IRS did during these examinations before you ignorantly declare "you have nothing to worry about".

Cavity search?

Just a thought, less personal attacks against Fez would probably increase the odds for him to take you seriously.

 

[Masbee]

My position is innocent until proven guilty. Others' positions seem to be he's guilty of all Nixon's crime without any proof at all.

Which is lame? Do tell?

Keep digging.

 

[Denny Crane]

Keep digging.

That's your plan, isn't it? Can't find a crime so keep digging for one?

 

[oldguy]

My position is innocent until proven guilty. Others' positions seem to be he's guilty of all Nixon's crime without any proof at all.

Which is lame? Do tell?

Interestingly enough, that's not the position the IRS takes.

Go Blazers

 

[Denny Crane]

Interestingly enough, that's not the position the IRS takes.

Go Blazers

So we agree about the IRS. If it were up to me, there'd be no income tax - the whole concept is a massive invasion of privacy.

 

[Eastoff]

Only republicans can be pissed that they were targeted for not having their political nominee parties subsidized by tax payers.

 

[Masbee]

Only republicans can be pissed that they were targeted for not having their political nominee parties subsidized by tax payers.

Wrong. Show these "subsidies". Links.

You are spewing Dem operatives propaganda disinformation talking points.

Study a bit more before mouthing off.

 

[oldguy]

Only republicans can be pissed that they were targeted for not having their political nominee parties subsidized by tax payers.

I trust you would be ok with the next republican president allowing the IRS to harass these folks about their tax status:

MoveOn.org
Planned Parenthood
Abortion clinics
The Socialist Worker's Party
Acorn (or whatever they're called now)
The Progressive Majority
Media Matters
Progressive Radio Network
Americans for Democratic Action
NARAL

There are lots of others that could be listed that a new R. prez make take pleasure in messing with. You would support a new president if he allowed that to happen then, right?

Go Blazers

 

[DaLincolnJones]

common man add OPB/PBR, CNN, MSNBC, Creepy Crawley....

 

[donkiez]

I trust you would be ok with the next republican president allowing the IRS to harass these folks about their tax status:

MoveOn.org
Planned Parenthood
Abortion clinics
The Socialist Worker's Party
Acorn (or whatever they're called now)
The Progressive Majority
Media Matters
Progressive Radio Network
Americans for Democratic Action
NARAL

There are lots of others that could be listed that a new R. prez make take pleasure in messing with. You would support a new president if he allowed that to happen then, right?

Go Blazers

yes and what IF Obama takes away all our guns
and what IF Obama isn't a US born citizen
and what IF Obama didnt finish his college
and what IF Obama is a secret muslim
and what IF Obama suports the muslim brotherhood
and what IF Benghazi was really something
and what IF Obama is a vile socalist
and what IF Obama's health care is a secret plan to murder babies and old people
and what IF Obama had a secret deal with Bill Clinton that he is renegging on?
and what IF Obama wants those mexicans to take over our country with immigration
and what IF Obama has a war on christmas with his christmans tree tax

Can we just change the republican party to the "what if" party. While we are at it we can all go burn a lower case t on Obama's front yard. T for troublemaker, that way when he see's it he will know that he is a big troublemaker.

 

[chris_in_pdx]

This thread is like a Republican circle jerk.

Most of the S2 Blazer OT board is.

 

[Eastoff]

Wrong. Show these "subsidies". Links.

You are spewing Dem operatives propaganda disinformation talking points.

Study a bit more before mouthing off.

They were applying for tax exempt status. That is a subsidy.

 

[Eastoff]

oldguy
MoveOn.org -yes
Planned Parenthood -no
Abortion clinics -no
The Socialist Worker's Party -yes
Acorn (or whatever they're called now) -yes
The Progressive Majority -Idon't know what this is
Media Matters -yes
Progressive Radio Network -yes(assuming you don't mean NPR)
Americans for Democratic Action -yes
NARAL - I don't know what this is

 

[Eastoff]

common man add OPB/PBR, CNN, MSNBC, Creepy Crawley....

Are you trying to say that CNN and MSNBC have applied to be tax exempt?

 

[PapaG]

Yes, the head of the IRS lying repeatedly in front of a House hearing, and a growing scandal that now has IRS agents telling they were ordered by their superiors to target specific groups, is a 'circle jerk'.

At times I wonder about the IQ of the average Democrat voter.

 

[Masbee]

Most of the S2 Blazer OT board is.

So typical. Ad hominem attacks.

Do you have a worthwhile and defensible opinion that is rooted in some semblance of reality, or are you just a jerk?

 

[PapaG]

Most of the S2 Blazer OT board is.

You forgot that we're all racists and homophobes, too. :MARIS61:

Life as you would be interesting.

 

[PapaG]

"A few rogue agents"

It's a GOP circle jerk!!!

More IRS staffers placed on leave

The IRS has notified congressional staff that top officials in the agency’s Affordable Care Act implementation team were recently placed on administrative leave for potential improprieties, according to a congressional source.

The agency told lawmakers that Fred Schindler, who is Sarah Hall Ingram’s deputy, and another staffer in the division were put on leave. The move is the result of gifts the staffers allegedly received — including $1,100 in free food and other items — while attending a 2010 health care conference. The IRS didn’t immediately comment.

The agency is surrounded in scandal after acknowledging last month that it wrongly targeted tea party groups applying for a tax exemption. The IRS came under additional scrutiny yesterday after an inspector general released a report saying the agency spent about $49 million on conferences between 2010 and 2012.

Acting IRS Commissioner Daniel Werfel placed Lois Lerner, a senior official in the division overseeing nonprofits, on leave last month.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...

 

[oldguy]

oldguy
MoveOn.org -yes
Planned Parenthood -no
Abortion clinics -no
The Socialist Worker's Party -yes
Acorn (or whatever they're called now) -yes
The Progressive Majority -Idon't know what this is
Media Matters -yes
Progressive Radio Network -yes(assuming you don't mean NPR)
Americans for Democratic Action -yes
NARAL - I don't know what this is

That's a shame. I don't believe much of anything those groups stand for, but I don't believe it is ok for the incumbent president to use the IRS to jerk them around.

Go Blazers

 

[Eastoff]

That's a shame. I don't believe much of anything those groups stand for, but I don't believe it is ok for the incumbent president to use the IRS to jerk them around.

Go Blazers

Umm maybe we're misunderstanding each other. But my point was that, political groups should not have tax exempt status if their primary purpose is politics.

 

[Denny Crane]

Umm maybe we're misunderstanding each other. But my point was that, political groups should not have tax exempt status if their primary purpose is politics.

You must be a republican. Because we agree.

Govt. shouldn't be in a position it helps itself get reelected or harms others' chances.

 

[Eastoff]

You must be a republican. Because we agree.

Govt. shouldn't be in a position it helps itself get reelected or harms others' chances.

Naah. I generally agree with Obama, much more than I do with other political candidates.

 

[oldguy]

Umm maybe we're misunderstanding each other. But my point was that, political groups should not have tax exempt status if their primary purpose is politics.

I guess we are misunderstanding each other. Tax exempt status exists, whether we agree with it or not. I don't have an issue with the IRS questioning whether an organization qualifies for tax exempt status. That's their job, and it should be done even-handedly.

I do have a problem when the IRS selectively enforces the rules pertaining to that tax exempt status, based on whether the administration considers the group friend or foe.

How do you feel about the IRS making decisions on who gets what quality of health care based on whether the person is conservative or liberal?

Go Blazers

 

[Eastoff]

How do you feel about the IRS making decisions on who gets what quality of health care based on whether the person is conservative or liberal?

This should be a non-issue, IE political parties should not matter.

 

[oldguy]

This should be a non-issue, IE political parties should not matter.

Seriously? You don't think politics were involved when they targeted conservative groups for the tax exempt status? Politics shouldn't matter there, either....but they did.

What makes you so confident that all of that thinking is going away and politics won't continue to play into the decisions the IRS makes?

Go Blazers

 

[PapaG]

This should be a non-issue, IE political parties should not matter.

And unicorns should poop Skittles.

 

[Denny Crane]

And unicorns should poop Skittles.

Maybe we should spend $millions investigating whether they do!

 

[Shooter]

Most teabaggers are resistant to the idea of taxation. Many are open tax protestors and publicly suggest that people should refuse to pay them. It's not a secret.

Makes sense to take a close look.

Holding up a group's application for 3 years and subjecting them to round after round of intrusive, prejudiced, and irrelevent questions is not "taking a close look," it is intimidation, harassment, and denial of basic rights.