IRS targeted LEFT WING GROUPS TOO!

[Eastoff]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...rs-tea-party-targeting-report-werfel/2452935/

The Associated Press said that besides ''progressive," lists used by screeners to pick groups for close examination included the terms ''Israel'' and ''Occupy.''

IRS IS OUT TO GET EVERYONE! :MARIS61:

 

[santeesioux]

:MARIS61::MARIS61::MARIS61:

 

[Masbee]

Wrong.

This is your classic left leaning, Obama protecting MSM, "fact" bomb, designed to confuse and distract. PROP. O. GANDA.

Don't fall for it. Please. Use common sense and your own brain.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corne...nally-thought-contrary-reports-eliana-Johnson

A November 2010 version of the list obtained by National Review Online, however, suggests that while the list did contain the word “progressive,”

screeners were in fact instructed to treat “progressive” groups differently from “tea party” groups. Whereas screeners were merely alerted that a designation of 501(c)(3) status “may not be appropriate” for applications containing the word ”progressive” – 501(c)(3) organizations are prohibited from conducting any political activities – they were told to send those of tea-party groups off IRS higher-ups for further scrutiny.

That means the applications of progressive groups could be approved on the spot by line agents, while those of tea-party groups could not. Furthermore, the November 2010 list noted that tea-party cases were “currently being coordinated with EOT,” which stands for Exempt Organizations Technical, a group of tax lawyers in Washington, D.C. Those of progressive groups were not.

There will be (and have been) a LOT of "news" stories like this regarding all of the Administration scandals. It is one way their friends and supporters who are firmly entrenched in the media attempt to sweep these scandals under the carpet as fast as possible. The interest level in actually properly investigating any of them is zero.

Bad government rules.

 

[Eastoff]

Wrong.

This is your classic left leaning, Obama protecting MSM, "fact" bomb, designed to confuse and distract. PROP. O. GANDA.

Don't fall for it. Please. Use common sense and your own brain.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corne...nally-thought-contrary-reports-eliana-Johnson

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There will be (and have been) a LOT of "news" stories like this regarding all of the Administration scandals. It is one way their friends and supporters who are firmly entrenched in the media attempt to sweep these scandals under the carpet as fast as possible. The interest level in actually properly investigating any of them is zero.

Bad government rules.

Ah yes, common sense that dictates, employees aren't lazy and looking for keywords. They want to destroy the conservative america.

 

[PapaG]

Not a single liberal group mentioned in the article. Just a typical Dem press release from the AP.

 

[Eastoff]

Oh and the head of the IRS program was a Conservative republican. I hate when republicans won't stand up for what's right and speak out against injustice and do Obama's bidding like mindless slaves.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

. PROP. O. GANDA.

PROP. A. GANDA.

or PrapaG if you wish

 

[Eastoff]

Not a single liberal group mentioned in the article. Just a typical Dem press release from the AP.

This is the best I can do. Feel free to dismiss it though =]

 

[Masbee]

Oh and the head of the IRS program was a Conservative republican. I hate when republicans won't stand up for what's right and speak out against injustice and do Obama's bidding like mindless slaves.

Your "fact" is incomplete information.

Study up on it. Then post.

 

[Masbee]

Ah yes, common sense that dictates, employees aren't lazy and looking for keywords. They want to destroy the conservative america.

Can you think for yourself?

Lazy employees don't create TONS of extra work by conducting very extensive, very time consuming, full-bore, multi-year audits of every single applicant that shows no indication they are guilty of a fraudulent application other than a keyword match in their name.

 

[Masbee]

PROP. A. GANDA.

or PrapaG if you wish

I was being cute.

Prop. O.(bama) Ganda.

Too subtle for you?

 

[Eastoff]

Can you think for yourself?

Lazy employees don't create TONS of extra work by conducting very extensive, very time consuming, full-bore, multi-year audits of every single applicant that shows no indication they are guilty of a fraudulent application other than a keyword match in their name.

Wtf do you think there job is to do, if not prevent fraud?

 

[Masbee]

You're being spun, America. On the vital question of whether the Internal Revenue Service incompetently or corruptly targeted conservative groups, both the White House and GOP are rushing to judgment – and they want you to follow like lemmings

Don't do it.

Nearly six weeks ago, President Obama responded to an inspector general's report detailing the targeting, which had been long denied by the IRS. "The misconduct that it uncovered is inexcusable. It's inexcusable, and Americans are right to be angry about it, and I am angry about it," Obama said, vowing to "hold the responsible parties accountable."​

The IG report was based on a cursory audit. It was not a full-fledged investigation. And yet Democrats disingenuously claimed that it exonerated the Obama administration and the president's re-election campaign from any involvement in IRS targeting.....​

http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/why-the-irs-scandal-needs-a-special-prosecutor-20130625​

 

[3RA1N1AC]

I was being cute.

Prop. O.(bama) Ganda.

Too subtle for you?

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[Masbee]

While Camp’s Ways and Means staff noted that progressive groups were also featured on an IRS’ BOLO list, alongside tea party groups, it pointed out that only tea party groups had their donors threatened, had confidential information leaked, were sent “inappropriate and intrusive” questions, and had their applications delayed for more than two years, according to currently available evidence.

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Camp’s staff also noted that only tea party groups were mentioned as having been targeted in a Treasury Inspector General’s report on the IRS scandal. Nearly 100 conservative or tea party applications were given extra scrutiny, according to the IG report.

Ways and Means Democrats did not call any progressive victims of IRS targeting at the committee’s hearing on IRS victims.​

“It is one thing to flag a group, it is quite another to repeatedly target and abuse conservative groups. Tea Party groups were not just on a BOLO they (1) were sent intrusive and inappropriate questions, (2) had their donors threatened with gift taxes and (3) had their confidential information leaked,” said Ways and Means Committee spokesperson Sarah Swinehart.
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Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/25/g...-irs-targeted-progressives-too/#ixzz2XHDpRllz​

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[Eastoff]

Maybe only Tea party groups were mentioned because they were the only one crying about being appropriately denied their tax exempt status?

 

[STOMP]

Maybe only Tea party groups were mentioned because they were the only one crying about being appropriately denied their tax exempt status?

of course. And of course no political group deserves the 501c4 status because it's a tax status for groups that are "operated exclusively for the promotion of social welfare"... like gathering clothing for foster kids. Political groups that have this status are tax cheats that I hope are prosecuted.

well, onto investigating the next fake scandal so as to avoid doing the business of the people

STOMP

 

[Masbee]

of course. And of course no political group deserves the 501c4 status because it's a tax status for groups that are "operated exclusively for the promotion of social welfare"... like gathering clothing for foster kids. Political groups that have this status are tax cheats that I hope are prosecuted.

well, onto investigating the next fake scandal so as to avoid doing the business of the people

STOMP

I truly don't understand your position.

It is quite crazy. Your position is this is a "fake" scandal, yet the President of the United States has already stated that it is, that he is furious about it and wants to get to the bottom of it and make sure it never happens again.

Is he crazy?

 

[Eastoff]

I truly don't understand your position.

It is quite crazy. Your position is this is a "fake" scandal, yet the President of the United States has already stated that it is, that he is furious about it and wants to get to the bottom of it and make sure it never happens again.

Is he crazy?

And your position is, So what if they didn't deserve tax exempt status in the first place, they were still picked up?

 

[Masbee]

And your position is, So what if they didn't deserve tax exempt status in the first place, they were still picked up?

You are conflating two separate issues.

The scandal is (mostly) in the issue of targeting of enforcement towards a particular type of group - ie., discrimination.

Arguing weather the groups targeted - and all of the other groups that were not targeted for special "treatment" - are guilty of violating the law - is a separate conversation.

Here is the Left side of this: The Left opposes the death penalty, primarily because they say that it discriminates against minorities. The fact that nearly all of those minorities sentenced to die are guilty of very heinous crimes is not germane to their argument.

 

[Eastoff]

You are conflating two separate issues.

The scandal is (mostly) in the issue of targeting of enforcement towards a particular type of group - ie., discrimination.

Arguing weather the groups targeted - and all of the other groups that were not targeted for special "treatment" - are guilty of violating the law - is a separate conversation.

Here is the Left side of this: The Left opposes the death penalty, primarily because they say that it discriminates against minorities. The fact that nearly all of those minorities sentenced to die are guilty of very heinous crimes is not germane to their argument.

whether*

I agree with your sentiment that it's wrong to discriminate. But my original post was how they were not discriminating. We obviously will have different opinions on the issue. With that said the death penalty isn't bad because it's mostly minorities, it's because you're killing people and not uncommonly innocent people.

 

[Masbee]

whether*

I agree with your sentiment that it's wrong to discriminate. But my original post was how they were not discriminating. We obviously will have different opinions on the issue. With that said the death penalty isn't bad because it's mostly minorities, it's because you're killing people and not uncommonly innocent people.

How can you possibly argue that they were not discriminating.

The scandal erupted because the IRS outed themselves as having discriminated and Obama blasted the discrimination. They then tried to protect themselves by claiming the discrimination was unintentional.

But be clear, THERE IS NO QUESTION THERE WAS DISCRIMINATION.

We have a confession.

The cognitive dissonance of the left is stunning. (edit: most of us all along the spectrum partake. It is not exclusive to the Left. I didn't write it but meant: about this specific issue)

 

[Eastoff]

How can you possibly argue that they were not discriminating.

The scandal erupted because the IRS outed themselves as having discriminated and Obama blasted the discrimination. They then tried to protect themselves by claiming the discrimination was unintentional.

But be clear, THERE IS NO QUESTION THERE WAS DISCRIMINATION.

We have a confession.

The cognitive dissonance of the left is stunning. (edit: most of us all along the spectrum partake. It is not exclusive to the Left. I didn't write it but meant: about this specific issue)

Confession? what confession? They said they went after groups with words like tea party and occupy.

More news about the Republicans in Congress trying to mislead the public.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/06/...al-to-ignore-irs-treatment-of-liberal-groups/

 

[maxiep]

Ah yes, common sense that dictates, employees aren't lazy and looking for keywords. They want to destroy the conservative america.

Their philosophy predisposes them to do so. They don't need to be told what to do, any more than my nature makes me hate the L*kers.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/348417/irs-employees-disproportionately-donate-obama

 

[maxiep]

Oh and the head of the IRS program was a Conservative republican. I hate when republicans won't stand up for what's right and speak out against injustice and do Obama's bidding like mindless slaves.

Who is this person?

And there has been much more complaining about Bush's policies from those of us on the Right than those on the Left complaining about Obama's policies. Of course, to those on the Left, it's like a Christian complaining about Jesus.

 

[maxiep]

Wtf do you think there job is to do, if not prevent fraud?

Their job is to be fair and impartial. Probability and statistics demonstrate it didn't occur in this case.

You know, it's okay to admit that you're wrong. It's the first step in learning and becoming an independent thinker. Try it; it only hurts at first.

 

[maxiep]

Maybe only Tea party groups were mentioned because they were the only one crying about being appropriately denied their tax exempt status?

Occam's Razor. You should stop trying to justify bad behavior and just try seeking the truth.

 

[maxiep]

whether*

Really? You just misused "there" and you're calling people out on their grammar?

 

[maxiep]

Confession? what confession? They said they went after groups with words like tea party and occupy.

More news about the Republicans in Congress trying to mislead the public.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/06/...al-to-ignore-irs-treatment-of-liberal-groups/

The filter may have included "tea party" and "occupy". However, they only "went after" groups that had "tea party" in their names. Understand the difference.

 

[Eastoff]

whoa. Where to begin? yes I do hate some policies from Obama. He I do think he has mislead on his campaign promises. No he is not the messiah, because there is no Messiah. yes I am disapointed. Yes, I still think Koch and Big Tobacco's whiney tea party babies are being whiney. They were trying to cheat the system, and they may have been picked on more than other groups, but all groups were picked on based on inappropriate short cuts.