Is Martell Webster the Wolves best player?

[andalusian]

This is kind of a funny post. They don't even envision Martell as a starter. Thats what they used a top 5 pick on Johnson for.

The way I look at it:

1. Love





2. Johnny Flynn
3. Michael Beasley
4. Corey Brewer
5. Martell

I think they are currently at:

1/2 Love/Beasley
3/4 Flynn/Marty

So either 4th best or 3rd best on their current roster.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

20-6 player? With consistent minutes, you see Webster as a top 5 SF in the league? Lebron, Durant, Carmelo, Granger, and then webster? Not many guys put up 20-6 in the league. Especially those who struggle to create their own shot off the dribble. I think that'd be a pretty inefficient 20, on a pretty bad team.

Not when one realizes he'd be a goto guy. Heck, each team has several players than can average 20 points if given the ball enough times in a good position to score. He's just never been given the chance before.

 

[BGrantFan]

This is kind of a funny post. They don't even envision Martell as a starter.

Plus, Johnson had 12pts/5reb/3ast/3steals on 4-5 shooting (3-4 on 3pt) in 23 minutes. The negative was he had 5 TOs, but for his second game against real players, that's a solid stat line. How long before Johnson starts?

 

[LittleAlex]

Martell may very well be the T'Wolves best player.


But that says a whole lot more about the sorry ass state of that team then it does about the abilities of Webster.

 

[MickZagger]

Plus, Johnson had 12pts/5reb/3ast/3steals on 4-5 shooting (3-4 on 3pt) in 23 minutes. The negative was he had 5 TOs, but for his second game against real players, that's a solid stat line. How long before Johnson starts?

I think he started the first two games.

 

[MickZagger]

The thing about getting rid of Webster and Outlaw is that our team b-ball IQ automatically goes up a couple notches. Martell was a spaz any time he had to put the ball on the floor.

But, he did start putting out a lot of effort on D, I will give him credit for that.

 

[STOMP]

Not when one realizes he'd be a goto guy. Heck, each team has several players than can average 20 points if given the ball enough times in a good position to score. He's just never been given the chance before.

geez, poor guy... 4 healthy years in and he's never been given a chance

If he struggles to get minutes with the Wolves, will this be the year that posters finally stop making excuses for him?

STOMP

 

[BrianFromWA]

Honestly, probably not. I think the fact that Kurt Rambis is instituting him as the P&R initiator in the Bastardized Triangle Offense shows that the coaching isn't exactly Sloan and Jackson over there.

 

[Minstrel]

Webster will end his 15 year career someday as a guy who never was anything more than a mediocre player because he never got a chance. Some guys are just unlucky that way.

 

[Ed O]

Plus, Johnson had 12pts/5reb/3ast/3steals on 4-5 shooting (3-4 on 3pt) in 23 minutes. The negative was he had 5 TOs, but for his second game against real players, that's a solid stat line. How long before Johnson starts?

Not to diminish your point, but it's funny that Johnson is only seven months younger than Webster.

Ed O.

 

[MickZagger]

Not to diminish your point, but it's funny that Johnson is only seven months younger than Webster.

Ed O.

Sounds about right. Johnson sat out a year after he transferred from Iowa St. to Syracuse. I'm not impressed with Johnson as a prospect, but he's definitely more intriguing than Webster. I've never been really high on Webster.

 

[kobeownslebron]

You have got to be kidding me. Webster is not even close to Minnesot'a best player. Love and Beasley are Minnesota's best player hands down.

 

[Kaydow]

The thing about getting rid of Webster and Outlaw is that our team b-ball IQ automatically goes up a couple notches. Martell was a spaz any time he had to put the ball on the floor.

But, he did start putting out a lot of effort on D, I will give him credit for that.

Bingo. Dude was horrible going to the basket. Just had no handles whatsoever - the move I saw him try the most was two hard dribbles, then jump. Didn't matter where he was. It was like two dribbles and something in his brain short circuited and an alarm went off that said "pick up your dribble before you lose it, hurry!". Of course that led to him getting his shot blocked, getting caught in the air with no where to go, or just throwing up some wildly ridiculous shot that had no chance of going in. Every year I expected him to come to camp with a new wrinkle - the ability to dribble the ball all the way to the basket. I figured he'd take an off season and just spend hours each day on his handles. After all, he had the athleticism. But it never happened. For all of the summers he spent with Kobe, they never got around to working on his handles. Some guys are born to be one dimensional 3 point shooters. Jason Kopono was never going to be a high flying, acrobatic swingman. But Martel didn't have to be like that. He's a good enough athlete to have a versatile offensive game. For whatever reason, it never happened. And I doubt it will. He's still a decent shooter, so it's not hard to imagine him averaging 14-16 PPG or so if he gets minutes. But I can't see more than that. It will be interesting to see Minny fan's reaction after witnesses a high flying dunk by Web. They'll be surprised by his hops & athleticism and assume that he has more offensive game than advertised - probably think they got a steal by trading for him. Then in his next game, he'll go back to his two hard dribble/jump move & throw up a couple of air balls . . .

 

[MickZagger]

Bingo. Dude was horrible going to the basket. Just had no handles whatsoever - the move I saw him try the most was two hard dribbles, then jump. Didn't matter where he was. It was like two dribbles and something in his brain short circuited and an alarm went off that said "pick up your dribble before you lose it, hurry!". Of course that led to him getting his shot blocked, getting caught in the air with no where to go, or just throwing up some wildly ridiculous shot that had no chance of going in. Every year I expected him to come to camp with a new wrinkle - the ability to dribble the ball all the way to the basket. I figured he'd take an off season and just spend hours each day on his handles. After all, he had the athleticism. But it never happened. For all of the summers he spent with Kobe, they never got around to working on his handles. Some guys are born to be one dimensional 3 point shooters. Jason Kopono was never going to be a high flying, acrobatic swingman. But Martel didn't have to be like that. He's a good enough athlete to have a versatile offensive game. For whatever reason, it never happened. And I doubt it will. He's still a decent shooter, so it's not hard to imagine him averaging 14-16 PPG or so if he gets minutes. But I can't see more than that. It will be interesting to see Minny fan's reaction after witnesses a high flying dunk by Web. They'll be surprised by his hops & athleticism and assume that he has more offensive game than advertised - probably think they got a steal by trading for him. Then in his next game, he'll go back to his two hard dribble/jump move & throw up a couple of air balls . . .

^ This guy brings up great points!

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