Is Oden still better than Bynum?

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STOMP said:
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I was agreeing with me being a douche. I mean, total internet douche!

However, Bynum is a lot more seasoned than Oden and this season has proven to be a far better player than Oden. They actually don't deserve to be in the same category right now. Until Oden can prove himself over at least a good stretch of games like Bynum has in the past, they aren't comparable. The only thing with both of them that is an equal is injuries. However, when healthy, Bynum has proven to be the more explosive and higher impact player.

BTW, you forgot your signature.

STOMP
 
Black Mamba said:
I was agreeing with me being a douche. I mean, total internet douche!

However, Bynum is a lot more seasoned than Oden and this season has proven to be a far better player than Oden. They actually don't deserve to be in the same category right now. Until Oden can prove himself over at least a good stretch of games like Bynum has in the past, they aren't comparable. The only thing with both of them that is an equal is injuries. However, when healthy, Bynum has proven to be the more explosive and higher impact player.

BTW, you forgot your signature.

STOMP
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I had composed some more stuff, but once I posted I saw that you'd since owned up to the way you were acting, so I replaced my stuff with dots to take the quick high road out... I didn't think of signing that.

Bynum is actually well ahead of Greg, in games played and injuries. Greg's setbacks are not thought to have much if any bearing on his athletic future. Thats why doctors opt for the MF surgery over recarving the cartilage. His wrist is as much of a concern as much as his removed tonsils. Unfortunately for basketball fans, the same can't be said for Andrew's knees. Knocked kneed with loose stretched out tendons, and having gone under the knife for torn ACLs multiple times just 4 seasons in, will he ever prove to be able to handle a full season of starter minutes? How much short will his career be cut?

I enjoyed a good laugh at your claim that Bynum has been proven to be more explosive then Greg... thanks for that

Anyways, glad to discuss hoops with you... so much nicer then just derisive name calling

STOMP
 
IIRC, Bynum's only torn his ACL once in HS?
 
anyone noticing how the other forum mods come into the Blazer forum and post random trolling crap? reminds me of BBF a little before everyone took exception to things lol

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I don't think Oden has ever been better than Vagynum. I think he will be at some point though.
 
Uncle Ty said:
As much as it pains me to say this, I agree. Bynum is looking like he could challenge Howard as the best center in the league. Oden is not close to his level right now.

This is fucking painful. Bynum was somewhat of a reach at 10th pick in a somewhat weak draft. We passed up on him for Webster. Oden was thought of as a "once in a generation", a 1st pick in a strong draft class. Role reversal, it seems like.
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That's where I'm at too. You can't deny Bynum is more advanced than Greg at this point. Just watch him play people! Dude is averaging 21/12 and greg is 10/8. Defensively? Greg's a little better shot blocker, but more foul prone. Offensively it's not even close. Bynum is much more fluid, mobile, coordinated, and fast than Greg.

It is painful. It shouldn't be this way. The good news is Greg has time, and could narrow the gap. Remember when Kobe was running smack about Bynum a few summers ago? About how "horrible" he was? I don't know what happened, but something has just clicked with that guy. He want from awful, to not bad, too pretty good (but injury prone), to a beast. I guess there's hope Greg can dominate someday like Bynum is now. But it's hard to imagine Greg being as versatile offensively - he just doesn't move side to side very fast. I guess we'll see. I hate that we have to "hope" our #1 pick reaches the ability of a #9 "project". And of course, it's the Lakers. How many times does a #9 big man end up dominating like this? Geez.
 
Bynum certainly puts up good numbers when Pau's out. But exactly how good can he be if the team gets to one finals entirely without him and wins a title with him contributing very little?

He's certainly got a lot more offensive polish than Oden, and he looks to be a better defender than Zach Randolph (who is similarly more offensively accomplished than Oden). But to compare him with Howard is just silly. Howard is a game changer. Oden is a lot closer to Howard in that respect - everyone can finally see how different the Blazers are when Oden is in the game.

Bynum will always be a very decent second tier center. He'll be vying with Brooke Lopez and Marc Gasol for the title of "the New Brad Daugherty" for years.
 
BlayZa said:
anyone noticing how the other forum mods come into the Blazer forum and post random trolling crap? reminds me of BBF a little before everyone took exception to things lol

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I would hardly call giving an opinion on something trolling. Remove your tampon.

As for the subject, its prety damn obvious Oden isn't on Bynum's level. COULD he be? obviously. Hell, Andrea Bargnani COULD be the best player in the NBA, doesn't mean it'll happen.
 
Here is the bigger question. If Oden and Bynum switched teams and started their careers over, who would be better?

I have a feeling Oden wouldn't get so many mystery calls and Bynum would be no where near what he is.
 
Black Mamba said:
I was agreeing with me being a douche. I mean, total internet douche!

However, Bynum is a lot more seasoned than Oden and this season has proven to be a far better player than Oden. They actually don't deserve to be in the same category right now. Until Oden can prove himself over at least a good stretch of games like Bynum has in the past, they aren't comparable. The only thing with both of them that is an equal is injuries. However, when healthy, Bynum has proven to be the more explosive and higher impact player.

BTW, you forgot your signature.

STOMP
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I think comparing a 5th year player to a 2nd year player is a waste of time.

Of course Bynum is better. He should be.

Here is the comparison that makes more sense.

Seems pretty comparable to me.
 
authentiq said:
I would hardly call giving an opinion on something trolling. Remove your tampon.

As for the subject, its prety damn obvious Oden isn't on Bynum's level. COULD he be? obviously. Hell, Andrea Bargnani COULD be the best player in the NBA, doesn't mean it'll happen.
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It totally will. :grin:
 
Dante_Cunningham said:
Here is the bigger question. If Oden and Bynum switched teams and started their careers over, who would be better?

I have a feeling Oden wouldn't get so many mystery calls and Bynum would be no where near what he is.
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Big Drew doesn't get very many favorable calls. I don't know what Oden's foul trouble is like, but if you watched the Finals last year, you would've seen that Big Drew got a lot of BS called on him.
 
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