Funny Is Portland really a liberal cesspool?

[PtldPlatypus]

How many of you actually live in the area? When's the last time you've been here?

Sounds like a bunch of people talking shit that don't actually live here...

What'choo talkin' 'bout, Milwaukie?

 

[barfo]

How many of you actually live in the area? When's the last time you've been here?

Sounds like a bunch of people talking shit that don't actually live here...

I live within easy walking distance of downtown.

barfo

 

[riverman]

I live within easy walking distance of downtown.

barfo

yet have never walked there once? that damned ankle bracelet!

 

[barfo]

yet have never walked there once? that damned ankle bracelet!

Me walk?

barfo

 

[riverman]

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Right out of the liberal playbook.

Obstructionist dems.

 

[Natebishop3]

How many of you actually live in the area? When's the last time you've been here?

Sounds like a bunch of people talking shit that don't actually live here...

I guess it depends on where you go. Portland is a big city and parts of it are really nice. But it's pretty damn sad to drive downtown and see tents all over the place.

 

[riverman]

Right out of the liberal playbook.

Obstructionist dems.

Casey Holdhal's beard is getting long!

 

[riverman]

Right out of the liberal playbook.

Obstructionist dems.

Time for rent a cops damnit! You think this is bad....people stand up at concerts and block your view all the time! The horror!

 

[riverman]

Right out of the liberal playbook.

Obstructionist dems.

The first shot there was literally ONE guy sitting in the audience....he should have taken his chair up on stage and sat right in front of the screen

 

[Hoopguru]

The cesspool imo, is social media where you can spew stuff to people you'd never say to them, the face to face. I think, its having an adverse effect on our young people.
Its kind of like getting in a car and going wherever you want, without getting in a car. Just my opinion....

 

[Orion Bailey]

Looks to me like a very small number of dicks from right and left, and otherwise a large group of peaceful marchers.

barfo

One rotten apple can ruin the whole barrel.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

The cesspool imo, is social media where you can spew stuff to people you'd never say to them, the face to face. I think, its having an adverse effect on our young people.
Its kind of like getting in a car and going wherever you want, without getting in a car. Just my opinion....

You suck...


Kidding

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I think a better way to ask the question would be to ask if Portland is liberal.

Then the answer is either yes, or it will be soon.

 

[riverman]

My question is, if Portland being liberal is an issue why wouldn't those folks just own up and move to logging country in Roseburg?

 

[Lanny]

I live within easy walking distance of downtown.

barfo

Goose Hollow? Do you know the Goose Hollow Inn? That used to be owned by mayor Bud Clark. He sold it or perhaps gave it to his relatives. I've had a beer with Bud. In fact, Bud bought his home from my parents. Yep, the house I lived in from7 years. I know every room and it had 22 of them. It had a one car garage which was connected to the basement. There were so any bedrooms that even though I occupied 7 of them at one time or another, there were still another four that I never occupied. We had a maid/cook. They were all nice. I think we had two or maybe three maid/cooks.
My mother was a multimillionaire who developed dementia and gave away almost all of her money to family deadbeats. Left me next to nothing, maybe 5% of what she had left which wasn't much.
Nope, I've made my retirement all by myself and my wife's contribution.

Here's a side note. We're getting a sizable income tax refund. My wife wants to take a hunk of it and buy an incredibly expensive purse. Geez, the $9.99 wallets I used to buy lasted me three or four years. Now that's the way to shop.
We withhold a lot of money so we can get the big refund. Yeah, I know, kind of dumb but even CDs don't pay much these days and it forces us to save.

 

[dviss1]

I guess it depends on where you go. Portland is a big city and parts of it are really nice. But it's pretty damn sad to drive downtown and see tents all over the place.

Not sure if you realize how stupid this sounds...

There are tents all over ALL cities.

I just came back from Vegas.

The people that live in the sewers there are the self proclaimed "mole people".

Last I checked NV is a conservative state. Not sure how that became a liberal problem or how only liberals are being associated with homelessness.

You need to get your mind right on this one.

 

[dviss1]

What'choo talkin' 'bout, Milwaukie?

Right.

Let's go down the list of areas I've lived in:

St John's
North Portland
Northeast Portland
Southeast Portland
Gateway
Gresham
Wilsonville
Tigard
Southwest Portland
Milwaukie

Native Portlander.

Also, being a referee enables me to travel all over the metro area and work with all walks of life.

If anyone can tell you about Portland, it's me.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Not sure if you realize how stupid this sounds...

There are tents all over ALL cities.

I just came back from Vegas.

The people that live in the sewers there are the self proclaimed "mole people".

Last I checked NV is a conservative state. Not sure how that became a liberal problem or how only liberals are being associated with homelessness.

You need to get your mind right on this one.

https://www.wweek.com/arts/books/20...document-of-growing-up-in-northeast-portland/

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Not sure if you realize how stupid this sounds...

There are tents all over ALL cities.

I just came back from Vegas.

The people that live in the sewers there are the self proclaimed "mole people".

Last I checked NV is a conservative state. Not sure how that became a liberal problem or how only liberals are being associated with homelessness.

You need to get your mind right on this one.

Vegas, at least the non-suburban areas are democrat/liberal. The rest of the state is pretty conservative but transplants are turning Vegas into the liberal shithole after they've fucked up California. Liberals are a plague.

Gotta move to Summerlin!

 

[dviss1]

https://www.wweek.com/arts/books/20...document-of-growing-up-in-northeast-portland/

WOW! Thanks for that! I know Mitch personally.

 

[dviss1]

Vegas, at least the non-suburban areas are democrat/liberal.

Gotta move to Summerlin!

My point is that homelessness isn't a liberal or conservative thing. It's a poverty thing. And the numbers show there are more conservatives in poverty than liberals. Although the poverty rate is higher in districts represented by Democrats, most poor people in the United States live in a community represented by a Republican. Taken together, the poverty rate in districts represented by Democrats in 2016 (“blue” districts) was 17.1 percent in 2010-14 compared with 14.4 percent in those represented by Republicans (“red” districts). But Republican districts have more poor residents overall: 25.1 million poor people lived in red districts in 2010-14 compared with 22.7 million in blue districts.

There are millions more poor conservatives than liberal.

 

[Orion Bailey]

My point is that homelessness isn't a liberal or conservative thing. It's a poverty thing. And the numbers show there are more conservatives in poverty than liberals. Although the poverty rate is higher in districts represented by Democrats, most poor people in the United States live in a community represented by a Republican. Taken together, the poverty rate in districts represented by Democrats in 2016 (“blue” districts) was 17.1 percent in 2010-14 compared with 14.4 percent in those represented by Republicans (“red” districts). But Republican districts have more poor residents overall: 25.1 million poor people lived in red districts in 2010-14 compared with 22.7 million in blue districts.

There are millions more poor conservatives than liberal.

I somewhat disagree. Many liberals want an easier life than to just buckle down and work hard, so they put themselves into poverty by wanting the government to pay for things instead of working hard to pay for it themselves.
At least the social libs of portland are like that.

Also. Its pretty well know that most large cities are dem/lib and most of the small town outskirts are conservative/republicans.

 

[donkiez]

I somewhat disagree. Many liberals want an easier life than to just buckle down and work hard, so they put themselves into poverty by wanting the government to pay for things instead of working hard to pay for it themselves.
At least the social libs of portland are like that.

Also. Its pretty well know that most large cities are dem/lib and most of the small town outskirts are conservative/republicans.

That's very stereotypical. You could also say that many conservatives sit at home collecting benefits and complain that Mexicans stole all their jobs. While there might be truth in both statements neither is the cause of homelessness. Homelessness is not caused by lazy liberal youth it's a symptom of our overall culture, social priorities, drug epidemic, mental health, displaced vets from unnecessary wars and the growing income gap.

 

[Orion Bailey]

That's very stereotypical. You could also say that many conservatives sit at home collecting benefits and complain that Mexicans stole all their jobs. While there might be truth in both statements neither is the cause of homelessness. Homelessness is not caused by lazy liberal youth it's a symptom of our overall culture, social priorities, drug epidemic, mental health, displaced vets from unnecessary wars and the growing income gap.

Meh. Everything you listed has been around much longer than the current issues.

And half of what you listed is the person themselves and what they prioritize. Drugs? Social priorities?
Those are choices, not situations.

 

[donkiez]

Meh. Everything you listed has been around much longer than the current issues.

And half of what you listed is the person themselves and what they prioritize. Drugs? Social priorities?
Those are choices, not situations.

That's oversimplifying all of those problems. Sure they have been around but not to the degree we have in today's world. We are now seeing the results of 50 years of bad policy, it's always been a snowball effect.

Drugs are less of a choice than many people think, do you really think people would rather rot their teeth out living in a gutter than live a normal productive life?

I'm sure we are talking about different things when we say social priorities. My definition is health and mental care, drug rehab programs, less war spending and more infrastructure spending, accessable education, ect. I'm don't mean individual choices of iPhones and advocado toast.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Not sure if you realize how stupid this sounds...

There are tents all over ALL cities.

I just came back from Vegas.

The people that live in the sewers there are the self proclaimed "mole people".

Last I checked NV is a conservative state. Not sure how that became a liberal problem or how only liberals are being associated with homelessness.

You need to get your mind right on this one.

A. NV is now a blue state...thanks California

B. Those aren't sewers the people live in, they're for storm water runoff because it floods during monsoon season easily without them. 99 percent of the time they're a great place to hide until it rains hard and they're deadly.

 

[MarAzul]

https://www.wweek.com/arts/books/20...document-of-growing-up-in-northeast-portland/

WOW! Thanks for that! I know Mitch personally.

Oh! Very inspiring.

 

[Orion Bailey]

That's oversimplifying all of those problems. Sure they have been around but not to the degree we have in today's world. We are now seeing the results of 50 years of bad policy, it's always been a snowball effect.

Drugs are less of a choice than many people think, do you really think people would rather rot their teeth out living in a gutter than live a normal productive life?

I'm sure we are talking about different things when we say social priorities. My definition is health and mental care, drug rehab programs, less war spending and more infrastructure spending, accessable education, ect. I'm don't mean individual choices of iPhones and advocado toast.

fair enough, though when it comes to drugs, I am of the extreme minority that disagrees is a physical issue.

I beleive it is mental, but the only reason I believe this, is because of personal experience. People dont have enough drive or discipline to go after what they want. If they did it would push them to be better.

For example. I used to smoke cigs. up to a pack every 2-3 days. Not the worst, but still definitely bad for me.

I tried quiting a couple times for the only reason of it being bad. Couldnt do it. Once I realized I could sing and actually do it seriously, but my throat is weak and smoking prevented me from building endurance, I dropped that shit quick.

Its all about drive to me. How bad do you want to be successful? The ones who dont want it as bad give up, give in and maintain the bad habits that prevent them from becoming a better, more productive person.

Again, I know im against the grain on this, but its what I believe because I have personal, verifiable evidence within myself.

 

[Lanny]

Not sure if you realize how stupid this sounds...

There are tents all over ALL cities.

I just came back from Vegas.

The people that live in the sewers there are the self proclaimed "mole people".

Last I checked NV is a conservative state. Not sure how that became a liberal problem or how only liberals are being associated with homelessness.

You need to get your mind right on this one.

Exactly, there are tents and homeless people all over the place. Their number grew in the latter G.W. Bush years and again in the Trump administration. LA is worse than Portland even when measured on a per capita basis.
I use to live in St. Louis and large parts of it looked like Berlin in 1046.
Even Seattle had homeless when I lived up there.
Believe me, it's a problem that needs to be addressed nationally but I don't think Trump's the guy that has the capability to recognize it and do something about it.
I think Trump's a guy who blames individuals for their poor choices. I think this is not a bad approach when you're dealing with individuals but when dealing with large numbers that tells you there is something wrong with the system. You just can't blame a whole bunch of people for making bad choices. There's got be a systemic problem.