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It seems to me that people all over the internet have forgotten what manners are. I also think many have forgotten that here in America, due to freedom of speech, we all have the right to our own opinion. Your opinion is worth no more than any other American's opinion is. If you believe otherwise, than maybe you should rethink what country you should be supporting. When you attack another American for their opinion, it is an attack on freedom. It is this freedom that allows all of us to freely debate our opinions in the first place. So let's not attack the very foundation of what truly makes America great, our freedom of speech.

Sorry to not include any foreigners, but American politics has really become quite childish. I don't know if we will ever grow up. :lollipop:
I have a coworker who likes to say, "People never 'grow up'; they just learn how to act in public." Since we access the internet from the privacy of our own computers/phones, those same public decency filters tend to be subconsciously set aside.

I don't think people on the internet have forgotten what manners are; I think many just don't care.
 
I'm pretty sure that these would help in "fixing" this place:

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I understand people thinking that my proposal isn’t needed, or wouldn’t work.

I haven’t seen any arguments as to why it’s not worth trying.

Nothing is being censored, all the topics people wish to discuss will still be here, just one more tap or click away.

If it doesn’t work, change it back after a couple of months, no harm no foul.

The main posters I see having a problem with it, are the mods, as it creates extra work for them.
 
I understand people thinking that my proposal isn’t needed, or wouldn’t work.

I haven’t seen any arguments as to why it’s not worth trying.

Nothing is being censored, all the topics people wish to discuss will still be here, just one more tap or click away.

If it doesn’t work, change it back after a couple of months, no harm no foul.

The main posters I see having a problem with it, are the mods, as it creates extra work for them.
In the words of Maynard G. Kregs' loud, surprised and horrified voice WORK?
 
OT..Barfo fixed it, then people kept coming in and breaking it everyday....he's still hanging in there..so far many have tried to take Denny's old role but not risen to the challenge.
 
OT can be fun, but fun takes practice....some of you suck at fun! There....that's how you insult...you use the word "some"...
 
I understand people thinking that my proposal isn’t needed, or wouldn’t work.

I haven’t seen any arguments as to why it’s not worth trying.

Nothing is being censored, all the topics people wish to discuss will still be here, just one more tap or click away.

If it doesn’t work, change it back after a couple of months, no harm no foul.

The main posters I see having a problem with it, are the mods, as it creates extra work for them.

I don't want to have to click onto other subforums. You'll lose engagement.
 
I don't want to have to click onto other subforums. You'll lose engagement.
Maybe, but we’re also losing engagement with the way things are now.

I think those that want to discuss politics will go into the politics forum and do so.
 
Maybe, but we’re also losing engagement with the way things are now.

I think those that want to discuss politics will go into the politics forum and do so.

But what is included in politics?

Religion?
Mass shootings?
Transgender rights?

What's left? Food and travel tips?
 
OT can be fun, but fun takes practice....some of you suck at fun! There....that's how you insult...you use the word "some"...
Some of you men that like the river are assholes. Is that how? Did I sugar coat it too much?
 
But what is included in politics?

Religion?
Mass shootings?
Transgender rights?

What's left? Food and travel tips?
Personally I’m happy to let the mods decide.

But in my opinion if any post in the topic includes the words Democrat, Hillary, Republican, or Trump; then into the politics forum it goes.

I see your point as a reason my proposal may not work, but I don’t see it as a reason not to try it.
 
Personally I’m happy to let the mods decide.

But in my opinion if any post in the topic includes the words Democrat, Hillary, Republican, or Trump; then into the politics forum it goes.

I see your point as a reason my proposal may not work, but I don’t see it as a reason not to try it.

Currently, 6 threads on the first page of threads would meet this criteria.
 
I know maybe of the Dems here are probably too triggered from Trump winning and now the Russian Collusion stuff being proven to be false, so having OT being a safe space from TRUMP may help them post more.
 
But in my opinion if any post in the topic includes the words Democrat, Hillary, Republican, or Trump; then into the politics forum it goes.

Sir Edmund Hillary died playing bridge. His last words were "Four No Trump".

barfo
 
I know maybe of the Dems here are probably too triggered from Trump winning and now the Russian Collusion stuff being proven to be false, so having OT being a safe space from TRUMP may help them post more.
fuck safe spaces, I want a public square to heckle deplorables and I'll have one damnit!
 
fuck safe spaces, I want a public square to heckle deplorables and I'll have one damnit!
I'm with you, brother. Let's start with placing Sly in a stock and pillory so we can pelt him with eggs and rotten tomatoes. It's all in good fun. Well, our fun, not his.
 
I don’t know.

I know I have baited folks at times so I’m to blame too, I think most of us share blame.

Putting blame aside, can we fix this section?

Can we read posts and answer them in earnest instead of immediately trying to figure out how we can turn a phrase or assign some BS the other person has to defend?

Can we make posts that aren’t black and white, where gradations exist? Politics and ethics often live in grey regions yet many here are always completely Group A or Group B on every topic.

Can we post articles and dissect topics because they are interesting to explore and not because we want to put someone in a box?

I have belonged to this community in some way or another for well over a decade but it has lost its appeal. I don’t know how to fix it. I want debate, I want differing points of views, I want smack talk and jocular banter but what it’s turned into is two sides talking over each other, both thinking the other side 1) always wrong, 2) out to get them, 3) stupid and 4) overly reactionary. I want nuance and discovery.

Is there a way to fix S2 OT? Please give ideas because I’m very frustrated and I don’t like seeing my community like this.
It might bee.....I kill me
 
If everyone reading this thread could just try and have fun together instead of trying to go for the throat and win. Guess what, nobody gives a shit if you "win" an internet argument. Let bygones be bygones and try to post something that's not petty.




grab your honey and comb over to the bee thread. just please beehave. I'm pollen for all of us to have a sweet time. Buzz is that thread is awesome" Hive Five? That thread needs to be Stickied.
 
If everyone reading this thread could just try and have fun together instead of trying to go for the throat and win. Guess what, nobody gives a shit if you "win" an internet argument. Let bygones be bygones and try to post something that's not petty.




grab your honey and comb over to the bee thread. just please beehave. I'm pollen for all of us to have a sweet time. Buzz is that thread is awesome" Hive Five? That thread needs to be Stickied.
I can post something Petty if I want, so there.
 

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