Is This a Hate Crime?

[PapaG]

Also, wtf is a 64 year-old bus driver going to do, besides getting his own ass kicked? The bus driver will end up getting more jail time than the racist thugs who beat up the white kid.

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[EL PRESIDENTE]

notice they don't say anything about the races of the people involved. CNN did the same thing in their "reporting". Absolutely no mention of race. I guess its irrelevant, who knows..that white guy is probably a mexican. Same thing happens when there is a "flash mob" of "youths" who are "disturbing the peace".

Imagine if it were the other way around. The guy getting beat (who would be black) would have had his civil rights violated by the Bus Driver. It would be a hate crime for the 3 guys beating him.

Sons of Obama be wildin' out. :MARIS61:

 

[ABM]

I'm thinkin' bus drivers should, at least, be armed with tasers....perhaps, pepper spray, or the like.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

that would be racist.

 

[PapaG]

The kid that was beat up only ended up with 2 black eyes and a broken hand.

Those are serious enough injuries to warrant felony charges. :MARIS61:

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

nah, this is just a case of youths just expressing their anger at white oppression.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

This is why you jokers get ignored.

 

[ABM]

nah, this is just a case of youths just expressing their anger at white oppression.

You're either ignorant or apathetic. Well, I don't really know which, but I don't really care, either.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

You're either ignorant or apathetic. Well, I don't really know which, but I don't really care, either.

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[ABM]

https://twitter.com/48tweetsofpower

I'm guessing you didn't grasp my quip...

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

18-0.

 

[ABM]

18-0.

19-0, actually. You give them no credit.

 

[oldguy]

I don't think it would be fair to expect some 64 year old guy to jump into a fight against three teenagers. It should be completely up to him.

Lots of bus drivers are part-time people making not much money.

Otoh, if he didn't check on the kid after the other kids stopped, or at the very least after the other kids got off the bus....that's a problem. If true, I can see why the police are looking at him.

Go Blazers

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

But those 3 sons of obama were merely infants.

hoop fam

 

[PapaG]

This is why you jokers get ignored.

Because you can't handle knowing all of the news, and how racism isn't one-sided?

Reality must be very frightening to you, in that you have more than a handful of internet posters on ignore.

Without me posting this, you wouldn't even know about it. Stay ignorant...

 

[DaLincolnJones]

Also, wtf is a 64 year-old bus driver going to do, besides getting his own ass kicked? The bus driver will end up getting more jail time than the racist thugs who beat up the white kid.

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naw man..its all good, just a white kid..he would never look like one of obamas sons..

 

[MickZagger]

It's still funny to me how Repubs are still strung along to make everything racial. Suburban folk....

 

[oldguy]

Be interesting to see what the school district does to the kids.

ABM, I think the idea of a stun gun or taser might make sense. Pepper spray would affect most of the kids on the bus, so I'm not sure that would be the way to go.

Go Blazers

 

[oldguy]

It's still funny to me how Repubs are still strung along to make everything racial. Suburban folk....

So, would Dems think it would be racial if three white kids beat the snot out of a black kid?

Go Blazers

 

[The_Lillard_King]

I thought the bus driver acted appropriately. He called to reported it, practically begged police to come as quickly as possible and yelled for them to stop. A 64 yr old stepping into that could just as easily end in a heart attack for the bus driver as it could to him breaking it up. No way should they press charges on him.

As far this being racial . . . probably some racial tenison going on but I see it as a bunch of thug kids picking on a weak kid.

 

[MARIS61]

Everyone on that bus was a pathetic coward. Not one person opposed the thugs in any way. Not even the victim. People in big cities are soul-less zombies. Glad I got out in time.

And to all you youngsters, 64 ain't that fuckin old. But it does carry a lot of experience. Most 64 year-olds could whip all three of those punks. If you're man enough to draw a check driving kids on a bus then you better be man enough to guarantee their safety while they're on it.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

And to all you youngsters, 64 ain't that fuckin old. But it does carry a lot of experience. Most 64 year-olds could whip all three of those punks. If you're man enough to draw a check driving kids on a bus then you better be man enough to guarantee their safety while they're on it.

This, and repped. The ageism in this thread really bothered me.

 

[oldguy]

Everyone on that bus was a pathetic coward. Not one person opposed the thugs in any way. Not even the victim. People in big cities are soul-less zombies. Glad I got out in time.

And to all you youngsters, 64 ain't that fuckin old. But it does carry a lot of experience. Most 64 year-olds could whip all three of those punks. If you're man enough to draw a check driving kids on a bus then you better be man enough to guarantee their safety while they're on it.

I agree with what you are saying. But I don't think there should be charges for the driver not intervening in the fight. Some 64 year olds ARE that old.

Go Blazers

 

[Further]

So a news report I just heard said that the boy who got beaten up had tattled that the other three boys were trying to sell him drugs, and this was retribution for telling. So in this case, no, it does not appear to be a hate crime, it's terrible, and the kids should be locked away for a few years, but there was a clear motive that had nothing to do with race.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

So a news report I just heard said that the boy who got beaten up had tattled that the other three boys were trying to sell him drugs, and this was retribution for telling. So in this case, no, it does not appear to be a hate crime, it's terrible, and the kids should be locked away for a few years, but there was a clear motive that had nothing to do with race.

Was there ever any reason to think it was a hate crime?

People who jump right to race whenever anything bad happens annoy the fuck out of me.

No, there is no evidence or reason to think this is a "hate crime".

 

[Further]

Was there ever any reason to think it was a hate crime?

People who jump right to race whenever anything bad happens annoy the fuck out of me.

No, there is no evidence or reason to think this is a "hate crime".

I didn't see one, but I also didn't post in this thread till we had some inclination as to the reason why the beating took place. Silly stuff. Some things show evidence of racial motivation, some things don't.

 

[oldguy]

Was there ever any reason to think it was a hate crime?

People who jump right to race whenever anything bad happens annoy the fuck out of me.

No, there is no evidence or reason to think this is a "hate crime".

I'm guessing you're not a big fan of Al Sharpton or Jessie Jackson then?

Go Blazers

 

[PapaG]

So the reports of the three guys calling the kid "white boy" while beating him isn't racism, it's just a statement of fact.

 

[Ed O]

If we expect bus drivers to regulate that kind of situation, then we need to (a) make sure that the expectation is set beforehand, and (b) understand that sometimes bus drivers are going to overreact and a kid is going to get unjustly pushed/grabbed/knocked around by a bus driver.

Watching that sort of thing on YouTube causes a small fight or flight reaction in me (and probably most people) and in person seeing similar things (in my experience) is even more intense. It's not reasonable, IMO, to go after the bus driver after the fact.

I also, as one who hasn't been in many fights in my life, am always surprised when someone can get punched and kicked like that and get off so lightly. I always envision getting my eyes jabbed out and my teeth cracked and knocked out when getting assaulted like that

Ed O.

 

[Further]

I'm guessing you're not a big fan of Al Sharpton or Jessie Jackson then?

Go Blazers

A fan, no, I don't have any Sharpton Jersey's.

But I do think that the majority of the issues they bring to our attention are relevant and should be looked at. There is racism and it needs to be addressed. I do think they sometimes go overboard, having spent so much of their lives on that singular issue, they sometimes see race playing an issue where it didn't, or think someones motivations were racially based when they weren't. Sharpton and Jackson do play an important roll in society, and the that's important. Just because not every issue they focus on is clear cut racism does not mean they are some bad people attacking the good folk of our nation. They are not part of the court of law, they are public figures exercising their freedom of speech, who have been working diligently towards the eradication of racism in America. And I might add that the grand reduction in racism in America is in no small part due to the activists over the years who have continually tried to focus the American consciousness on this scourge.

It's our duty to look at each issue as it comes up and use our own judgement. No reason to enter with bias from either side, immediately certain that it's racially based or not racially based. And all this pointing the other direction, hey look a white guy was wronged by a black, is just rude and makes you guys look hateful. Sometimes there will be "reverse racism" and it will be evident. But don't do exactly what you seem angry at Sharpton/Jackson at doing, coming to racial conclusions far sooner than is warranted just to get those black folk back for thinking things are racially based. That's horseshit.