Is This Right or Wrong?

[BLAZER PROPHET]

I say it's wrong and hope they are prosecuted.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...tion-could-draw-charges-against-utah-men?lite

 

[crandc]

Well, right/wrong and legal/illegal are not the same. It's public property so defacing private property would not apply. Vandalism?

 

[Natebishop3]

I really hate people sometimes.

 

[magnifier661]

Wtf?! So we should arrest the people that dammed the Colorado. There was more defacement there. How about we arrest Mother Nature for every earthquake? It's one thing when you spray paint a rock; but shaking one loose and allowing it to fall is criminal?

Nah I don't agree with you.

 

[Eastoff]

Wtf?! So we should arrest the people that dammed the Colorado. There was more defacement there. How about we arrest Mother Nature for every earthquake? It's one thing when you spray paint a rock; but shaking one loose and allowing it to fall is criminal?

Nah I don't agree with you.

if you get caught spray painting a rock, you should be charged as well.

 

[magnifier661]

if you get caught spray painting a rock, you should be charged as well.

I agree. Tipping a rock over shouldn't be criminal.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I agree. Tipping a rock over shouldn't be criminal.

They tipped over the Goblin Rock formation at the Goblin Valley state park. The rock formation was how the place got its name. It's fucked up that they did that.

 

[magnifier661]

They tipped over the Goblin Rock formation at the Goblin Valley state park. The rock formation was how the place got its name. It's fucked up that they did that.

Fucked up is right! But it's also fucked up that there are volcanos, tornados, hurricanes, earthquakes and tidal waves.

And if I saw some dude doing that; I would beat their asses. What I'm arguing is "it's not criminal"

 

[Denny Crane]

Seems like vandalism to me. Not up to me, though.

Press charges and let a judge/jury decide.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

100 lashes and 3 days in the stocks

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Fucked up is right! But it's also fucked up that there are volcanos, tornados, hurricanes, earthquakes and tidal waves.

And if I saw some dude doing that; I would beat their asses. What I'm arguing is "it's not criminal"

It's odd how you keep comparing those Boy Scout leaders to natural disasters.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

I'm with mags, I don't see this as criminal.

It is disturbing to watch for anyone who enjoys the outdoors and maybe if there were signs prohibiting this kind of conduct action should be taken. But it was one rock and the people thought they were actually helping out. I would hate to be at a state park afraid to touch or move anything in fear that I may be moving something that is so protected I may be charged with a crime. I would walk around all day with my hands in my pockets making sure I don't step on anything that might get me in trouble.

 

[magnifier661]

It's odd how you keep comparing those Boy Scout leaders to natural disasters.

As world war z quotes "Mother Nature is the worst serial killer"... If we could just prosecute her and sentence her to death!

 

[magnifier661]

I'm with mags, I don't see this as criminal.

It is disturbing to watch for anyone who enjoys the outdoors and maybe if there were signs prohibiting this kind of conduct action should be taken. But it was one rock and the people thought they were actually helping out. I would hate to be at a state park afraid to touch or move anything in fear that I may be moving something that is so protected I may be charged with a crime. I would walk around all day with my hands in my pockets making sure I don't step on anything that might get me in trouble.

Exactly! Could you imagine getting arrested for throwing a rock in a lake? The rock took millions of years to form too. How dare people skip rocks!

 

[RR7]

As world war z quotes "Mother Nature is the worst serial killer"... If we could just prosecute her and sentence her to death!

SO because some things get destroyed naturally, it's ok to fuck things up intentionally?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Exactly! Could you imagine getting arrested for throwing a rock in a lake? The rock took millions of years to form too. How dare people skip rocks!

If the name of the place was "Only One Rock on a Sandy Lake Beach state park" and people come to that park to look at that rock then yes, if you throw that rock in a lake you should be arrested.

 

[magnifier661]

SO because some things get destroyed naturally, it's ok to fuck things up intentionally?

Did I say it wasn't fucked up? Did I also not say "if I saw him do that, if beat his ass?"

I am arguing it's not criminal; and it isn't. Sometimes fucked up things happen. Sometimes a contractor tear down trees to build houses. Are they getting arrested? How many animals have people killed in the name of progress? None of those are criminal.

 

[magnifier661]

If the name of the place was "Only One Rock on a Sandy Lake Beach state park" and people come to that park to look at that rock then yes, if you throw that rock in a lake you should be arrested.

I don't agree

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Did I say it wasn't fucked up? Did I also not say "if I saw him do that, if beat his ass?"

I am arguing it's not criminal; and it isn't. Sometimes fucked up things happen. Sometimes a contractor tear down trees to build houses. Are they getting arrested? How many animals have people killed in the name of progress? None of those are criminal.

If the contractor tears down those trees without authorization on public property they will be arrested. That is criminal.

If the animal is caught they are given the death penalty.

 

[e_blazer]

Unfortunately, well-meaning morons are a part of nature too. Seems like they were trying to do something they thought would improve the safety of the park. I'd have a few questions on this, like are there signs up about not disturbing the natural rock formations and are there ones warning of dangers of falling rocks? You'd think that most people would be able to figure this out for themselves, but these guys prove otherwise.

 

[magnifier661]

If the contractor tears down those trees without authorization on public property they will be arrested. That is criminal.

If the animal is caught they are given the death penalty.

Was there a sign at the park that states that? You assume there was. I doubt there was.

In a national park; most specify if you can gather trees for firewood. It also specifies which areas are forbidden to chop down. I've hiked in some areas; where the national Forrest service will post a certain object cannot be touched. I watched this video and saw no sign.

Sorry it's not criminal

 

[magnifier661]

Unfortunately, well-meaning morons are a part of nature too. Seems like they were trying to do something they thought would improve the safety of the park. I'd have a few questions on this, like are there signs up about not disturbing the natural rock formations and are there ones warning of dangers of falling rocks? You'd think that most people would be able to figure this out for themselves, but these guys prove otherwise.

Exactly!!!!

 

[Denny Crane]

Those boy scouts really should be cutting down the redwoods in Muir Woods.

 

[RR7]

I don't recall when I hiked to the top, seeing signs that say please don't build a dam and stop up Multnomah Falls. I think I'd get in trouble for doing it, however.
You tend to do this a lot in your arguments mags where you bring up a whole bunch of other random fairly unrelated examples you think support your argument. Tearing down trees or an animal killing someone is't related at all. Sorry.

 

[julius]

I remember somewhere in...Connell Washington (I think it was spelled Connell), there was the "Connell National Forest". You could see it off of 395, just a single tree out in a field.

Some twerpy kid cut it down as a prank, and it pissed off the people of Connell.

Not saying it was the same, or comparable, it just reminded me of this.

 

[e_blazer]

I visited Big Tree State Park in California earlier this year. There's the remains of a giant sequoia that was cut down a hundred years ago or so just for the purpose of providing a tourist attraction. The stump was around 20-25' across. As I recall, they had dance on it, a bar and bowling on the remains of the tree itself. I guess times change what's acceptable in the way of screwing with mother nature.

 

[magnifier661]

I don't recall when I hiked to the top, seeing signs that say please don't build a dam and stop up Multnomah Falls. I think I'd get in trouble for doing it, however.
You tend to do this a lot in your arguments mags where you bring up a whole bunch of other random fairly unrelated examples you think support your argument. Tearing down trees or an animal killing someone is't related at all. Sorry.

You maybe arrested; but I know for a fact I won't get in trouble with the law. My attorneys would have a field day.

I didn't mean animals killing animals. I was talking about destroying wildlife; while building for progress. Even protected areas will need to cut down trees and kill wildlife; to build ranger stations and toilets.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Did I say it wasn't fucked up? Did I also not say "if I saw him do that, if beat his ass?"

I am arguing it's not criminal; and it isn't. Sometimes fucked up things happen. Sometimes a contractor tear down trees to build houses. Are they getting arrested? How many animals have people killed in the name of progress? None of those are criminal.

So it's not criminal but if you saw someone do it you would play judge and jury, find them guilty and beat them up. Which you would be committing a crime if you did that. So according to you they're not guilty of committing a crime but you would commit a crime to punish them.

Wouldn't it be easier just to let a judge sort it out?

 

[magnifier661]

So it's not criminal but if you saw someone do it you would play judge and jury, find them guilty and beat them up. Which you would be committing a crime if you did that. So according to you they're not guilty of committing a crime but you would commit a crime to punish them.

Wouldn't it be easier just to let a judge sort it out?

Yes I would. Just like it's not criminal for a wife to cheat on me; but if I caught my wife; I would beat the fuck out of the guy cheating.

 

[julius]

I think it's safe to say these guys aren't exactly scholars.