Is this the year Boise finally plays for the Natty?

[STOMP]

I guess we'll see. I don't think a 1-loss team should jump them.

what a fan feels is right doesn't matter and posting that same thought again and again won't change this. The way the BCS works strongly suggests BSU won't get a shot if there are one loss teams like Oregon, Bama, etc... and most likely there will be. This isn't a travesty, this is reality

STOMP

 

[Mediocre Man]

If Boise State is one of only 2 undefeated teams at the end of the season it will be a travesty if they don't play for the title. They beat a pretty good Georgia team in Atlanta and their MWC schedule is better than what they've been used to in the WAC. Kellen Moore will be winningest college quarterback of all-time as well. I think they would deserve the shot.

Georgia also plays no one

 

[Targus]

Is it fair to punish a team simply because the rest of their conference isn't strong and they weren't able to schedule high ranked OOC teams? It's not rare for good teams to back out of playing teams like BSU and even Oregon and Fresno - back in the day - so despite best efforts, a team wouldn't get a fair shot simply because other teams aren't good?


Doesn't sound fair to me.

 

[Natebishop3]

Is it fair to punish a team simply because the rest of their conference isn't strong and they weren't able to schedule high ranked OOC teams? It's not rare for good teams to back out of playing teams like BSU and even Oregon and Fresno - back in the day - so despite best efforts, a team wouldn't get a fair shot simply because other teams aren't good?


Doesn't sound fair to me.

Is it fair for a team who has to play 12 or 13 tough teams and makes it through the gauntlet to get passed by a team that has a cake schedule against 12 or 13 inferior teams?

 

[Targus]

Two thoughts:

There is a SOS element to the computer polls, and human voters also consider schedule played.

Also, there's a reason Atlantic Coast, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12, and SEC conferences have automatic berths, whereas Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference, or the Western Athletic Conference have to earn berths through rankings/polls.

Bottom line, it all comes down to wins and losses and the top 2 teams appear in the NC game. (unless you play in Mid-Am, MWC, Sun or WAC).

So, who is actually being penalized?

No team winning the majority of that gauntlet gets penalized. Win the your conference and go BCS'in. Win them all and have a very good chance at going to the NC (unless you play in Mid-Am, MWC, Sun or WAC). .

BCS has BSU at #4. We've been through this already. BSU pounded an SEC team by 14 points and that same SEC team is 4-1 in conference play. They also beat Toledo and Tulsa, who are currently undefeated in conference play.

 

[Natebishop3]

Two thoughts:

There is a SOS element to the computer polls, and human voters also consider schedule played.

Also, there's a reason Atlantic Coast, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12, and SEC conferences have automatic berths, whereas Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference, or the Western Athletic Conference have to earn berths through rankings/polls.

Bottom line, it all comes down to wins and losses and the top 2 teams appear in the NC game. (unless you play in Mid-Am, MWC, Sun or WAC).

So, who is actually being penalized?

No team winning the majority of that gauntlet gets penalized. Win the your conference and go BCS'in. Win them all and have a very good chance at going to the NC (unless you play in Mid-Am, MWC, Sun or WAC). .

BCS has BSU at #4. We've been through this already. BSU pounded an SEC team by 14 points and that same SEC team is 4-1 in conference play. They also beat Toledo and Tulsa, who are currently undefeated in conference play.

Hey, I hope BSU goes to the Natty so I can watch LSU or Alabama monkeystomp them and then the debate will finally be over.

 

[Targus]

True dat

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Hey, I hope BSU goes to the Natty so I can watch LSU or Alabama monkeystomp them and then the debate will finally be over.

That's not a bad thought. If they play a team like Alabama/LSU, they probably lose by 50 and then never see the NC game again.

 

[Targus]

BSU beats Georgia by 14

Georgia beats Tenn by 8 (+22 differential)

Ironically, both LSU and Bama beat Tenn by 31

Don't bet on that 50.

 

[Natebishop3]

BSU beats Georgia by 14

Georgia beats Tenn by 8 (+22 differential)

Ironically, both LSU and Bama beat Tenn by 31

Don't bet on that 50.

Even if it's not 50, it will probably be a blowout.

 

[PapaG]

BSU beats Georgia by 14

Georgia beats Tenn by 8 (+22 differential)

Ironically, both LSU and Bama beat Tenn by 31

Don't bet on that 50.

The transitive property is a joke. Based on that, since Oregon beat Nevada by 59, and Boise beat Nevada by 20, then Oregon beats Boise by 39 points.

 

[Wheels]

Oregon beats Boise by 39 points.

^ I like it!

 

[BrianFromWA]

Hey, I hope BSU goes to the Natty so I can watch LSU or Alabama monkeystomp them and then the debate will finally be over.

People said that when Boise got invited to a BCS game for the first time. BSU 43, OK 42.
Didn't Alabama already get monkeystomped by a non-AQ team (31-17 to Utah in 2009)?
Aside from Hawaii's unfortunate foray into the Sugar Bowl, aren't non-AQ teams 5-2 in BCS bowls? (Though to be fair, in 2010 BSU played TCU for some idiotic reason, meaning that non-AQ teams are 4-1 against AQ teams).

 

[tlongII]

I wouldn't bet against Kellen Moore and Chris Peterson in any bowl game. I don't care if LSU or Bama is the opponent. I guarantee they would find a way to score on those defenses.

 

[Targus]

Tlong, you and I need to stop agreeing so much. It's ruining my rep.

 

[tlongII]

Tlong, you and I need to stop agreeing so much. It's ruining my rep.

I hate Boise State, but I've seen them enough to know what they can do.

 

[Targus]

Yet one more thing we agree on...

Maybe we can find some other areas to disagree...you know...to balance all this Beav/Duck love out.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

I wouldn't bet against Kellen Moore and Chris Peterson in any bowl game. I don't care if LSU or Bama is the opponent. I guarantee they would find a way to score on those defenses.

That chick in your avatar looks like she scores a lot against defenses.