Is Westboro Baptist Church A "Hate Group"?

[RR7]

So a few hundred thousand people sign a petition to label Westboro a hate group. Them and their 40 members.

SMH.

Family Research Council has 450,000 members and they say terrible and untrue things about gay people.

Where's the outrage against the 450,000 group? They weren't anti-war, that's why.

Get it?

So people are only signing the petition against the 40 because they were anti-war?

 

[Denny Crane]

So people are only signing the petition against the 40 because they were anti-war?

People only know about the 40 because they were anti-war. Otherwise, they'd be what they truly are - a tiny church that is beyond fringe and not very noteworthy.

They were protesting funerals at a time when liberals were whining about the govt. not allowing the paparazi to have at it with the coffins of returning dead soldiers.

 

[RR7]

yawn. like we wouldn't hear about them after this sort of thing. Sure.

Still not sure why you applaud murdering kids Denny.

 

[Denny Crane]

I get that you don't like the mirror held up so you can see yourself, but it is what it is.

450,000 anti-gay people are here, not queer, and much more likely to be in your face.

Why are the 40 of Westboro so worthy of any attention at all, aside from by the assistant sheriff of Topeka Kansas?

 

[Denny Crane]

 

[RR7]

I get that you don't like the mirror held up so you can see yourself, but it is what it is.

I still recall your half cocked argument about how supporting someone's right meant supporting what they use it for. Pretty sure that means you support and applaud the killing of kids. Good job Denny.

 

[oldmangrouch]

How many Americans died in Iraq in 2007?

How many died in 2012?

Gee.....a simple, obvious explanation. What fun is that?

 

[julius]

I think nobody would even know about Westboro if they hadn't been war protesters. That was enough for the media to promote the hell out of them.

I get that you don't see it. So be it.

And nobody would've known who they are had there not been a war.

I'm not sure your point was really a good one.

 

[julius]

So a few hundred thousand people sign a petition to label Westboro a hate group. Them and their 40 members.

SMH.

Family Research Council has 450,000 members and they say terrible and untrue things about gay people.

Where's the outrage against the 450,000 group? They weren't anti-war, that's why.

Get it?

It might just be that the FRC doesn't hold signs saying that God hates gays or whatever.

And the FRC didn't just say (or was implied to have said) they would protest the funerals of the children and teacher/staff of Newtown.

People know the WBC not because of the war, or the protests of the war, but because of their methods and the message they were saying.

 

[julius]

That might've been a good point to make if one of the following were true of the situation.

A: Barack Obama started a war, ANY WAR, under false pretenses.
B: One of the wars is all but done and the other one is winding down
C: People were against the war and protested then and aren't now because of many reasons. None of which has to do with Barack being in office now. See A and B. Also see D:
D: War isn't cool, and to act like the left now thinks it is cool is condescending, insulting and pretty much partisan horse shit that you and the "non republicans" on this board love to trumpet out and then act like you were just posting for fun or something.

You want to know why people protested the war? Because it was a mistake. And it needed to be made known that it was a mistake, a misguided war and that the smothering of those who were opposed to it (i.e., "Why do you hate our troops?") wasn't going to be accepted. And then once the overwhelming majority of Americans came to the side of "these wars were a mistake/stupid/misguided/need to end", what the fuck is the point of continually protesting?

Oh, I know, it can't be any of that. It HAS to be that the left just blindly follows their president (who didn't start any wars, was in office when one of them all but ended and the other one will end too).

Yeah, you're not a republican hack Denny. Nope, not at all.

(btw, are you going to update your signature to say 2016 instead of 2012? And, also, was the guy who played the Shore character as much of an annoying character in that TV show as he was when he played a role on the Office? Not sure why but I can't stand that guys characters)

 

[julius]

I still recall your half cocked argument about how supporting someone's right meant supporting what they use it for. Pretty sure that means you support and applaud the killing of kids. Good job Denny.

yep, iirc it was the abortion argument (made against me).

 

[3RA1N1AC]

So a few hundred thousand people sign a petition to label Westboro a hate group. Them and their 40 members.

SMH.

Family Research Council has 450,000 members and they say terrible and untrue things about gay people.

Where's the outrage against the 450,000 group? They weren't anti-war, that's why.

Get it?

wtf?

is the FRC demonstrating at funerals blaming gays for their deaths? saying shit like "GOD HATES YOUR DEAD SON"?

get a fucking clue man

 

[3RA1N1AC]

(btw, are you going to update your signature to say 2016 instead of 2012? And, also, was the guy who played the Shore character as much of an annoying character in that TV show as he was when he played a role on the Office? Not sure why but I can't stand that guys characters)

james spader is aight, if thats who you are talking about

i liked him in that car crash sex movie

 

[Denny Crane]

How many Americans died in Iraq in 2007?

How many died in 2012?

Gee.....a simple, obvious explanation. What fun is that?

How many troops in Afghanistan? When were they promised to be brought home (promised in 2007/2008/2009)?

 

[Denny Crane]

yep, iirc it was the abortion argument (made against me).

I support the freedom. Freedom can be abused. It ain't free.

Guns aren't made for the purpose of shooting classrooms full of children. Abortions are intended to terminate a life (legitimately so, but it is what it is).

 

[Denny Crane]

wtf?

is the FRC demonstrating at funerals blaming gays for their deaths? saying shit like "GOD HATES YOUR DEAD SON"?

get a fucking clue man

Nah, they just say stuff like "criminal sanctions against gay behavior should be enforced."

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Nah, they just say stuff like "criminal sanctions against gay behavior should be enforced."

so are you still confused as to why there is a difference?

next time the frc plans on protesting funerals with signs that say "god hates your dead children" let me know, and ill owe you a beer

 

[julius]

I support the freedom. Freedom can be abused. It ain't free.

Guns aren't made for the purpose of shooting classrooms full of children. Abortions are intended to terminate a life (legitimately so, but it is what it is).

Guns are intended to terminate a life. Abortions aren't made for the sole purpose of killing babies (saving lives too).

See? I can play the semantics game too.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

guns should never be used for abortions though

 

[SlyPokerDog]

guns should never be used for abortions though

It depends on the type of creature you're impregnated with.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

partial birth abortions are just plain wrong sly, in ANY instance

 

[MARIS61]

I get that you don't like the mirror held up so you can see yourself, but it is what it is.

450,000 anti-gay people are here, not queer, and much more likely to be in your face.

Why are the 40 of Westboro so worthy of any attention at all, aside from by the assistant sheriff of Topeka Kansas?

It has nothing to do with them being anti-war as you suggest. I am anti-war as are most of my friends and the media doesn't give a shit.

It's because they demonstrate openly in person at big media events like soldiers funerals and mass murders. They do this because they know that our media celebrates tragedies and will be there in full force. If the media wasn't already there profiteering off people's sorrow we'd never have heard of these wing-nuts.

They could just demonstrate in front of your house but nobody would broadcast it.

The media never calls out large religious groups for their hate because the media is largely owned by these groups and/or their supporters (mostly large corporate advertisers). No news network would survive a battle with the well-known hate group The Family Research Council as they are too well connected.

 

[MARIS61]

Guns are intended to terminate a life. Abortions aren't made for the sole purpose of killing babies (saving lives too).

See? I can play the semantics game too.

Not very well.

Guns have saved far more lives (millions upon millions through subsistence hunting and self-defense) than abortions (far less than 1%), usually without killing any human beings.

Abortions are most often done simply to avoid the inconvenience of raising an unwanted child. Abortions always kill human beings.

 

[MARIS61]

so are you still confused as to why there is a difference?

next time the frc plans on protesting funerals with signs that say "god hates your dead children" let me know, and ill owe you a beer

They spend millions every year bribing politicos to undermine the Constitution with the exact same goal in mind. The fact they lack the stones to stand up publicly and state their opinion makes them more insidious than the Westboro nuts.

http://www.frc.org/human-sexuality#homosexuality

 

[DaLincolnJones]

Damn it Maris, how am I to mock you if you wont stop being reasonable...

oh and repped, dick head..

 

[speeds]

(btw, are you going to update your signature to say 2016 instead of 2012? And, also, was the guy who played the Shore character as much of an annoying character in that TV show as he was when he played a role on the Office? Not sure why but I can't stand that guys characters)

Spader's carved out a niche (Crash reference) as the go-to actor for creepy sexual vibes but he's been in a lot of good stuff and doesn't only play that kind of character. I think he was just in Lincoln.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

They spend millions every year bribing politicos to undermine the Constitution with the exact same goal in mind. The fact they lack the stones to stand up publicly and state their opinion makes them more insidious than the Westboro nuts.

http://www.frc.org/human-sexuality#homosexuality

oh im not defending them by any means, they will all rot in hell if there is one

 

[speeds]

There seems to be a movement towards people feeling like they never have to be offended.

 

[oldmangrouch]

How many troops in Afghanistan? When were they promised to be brought home (promised in 2007/2008/2009)?

Some of us are capable of grasping the differences between Afghanistan (arguably justified) and Iraq (totally arbitrary).

 

[Denny Crane]

Some of us are capable of grasping the differences between Afghanistan (arguably justified) and Iraq (totally arbitrary).

I was convinced by the democrats who ranted about the dangers Saddam represented to us.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.asp