Isiah considering Bynum at number 8?!

[JWohl]

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">"The Knicks, according to multiple sources, will take Frye at No. 8 in Tuesday's NBA Draft if he's there. If not, Thomas, a source said, will throw the mock drafts on its ear and snatch the 7-foot, 17-year-old high school senior center Andrew Bynum, as reported here yesterday. That is unless Houston high school swingman Gerald Green, who will work out for the Knicks today, falls to eight, which is very unlikely."</div>
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[Bobcats]

That's Isiah for ya.

Hey, I can't complain, if the Raptors are to move up in the Atlantic, the Knicks will be in the way, and I don't mind this pick at all (from a Raptor fans point of view).

 

[Beat]

Isiah is sippin' on that syzzurp.

 

[j0se]

Bynum is way better than Fyre, why not?

 

[Beat]

Bynum <u>COULD</u> be way better than Frye.

 

[knicksfan]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting BobbyEscobar:</div><div class="quote_post">Bynum <u>COULD</u> be way better than Frye.</div>

Only reason Frye will struggle in the nba level is because he is WEAK and bad post defender, I suggest him hit the weight rooms. But Bynum is 270 Pounds, he could stand still and people can't move him.

 

[P.A.P.]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting knicksfan:</div><div class="quote_post">Only reason Frye will struggle in the nba level is because he is WEAK and bad post defender, I suggest him hit the weight rooms. But Bynum is 270 Pounds, he could stand still and people can't move him.</div>

He has, and according to reports, he has hit 270.

 

[knicksfan]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Banks:</div><div class="quote_post">He has, and according to reports, he has hit 270.</div>

Ok I can bring REPORTS too for FRYE.

The knock on Frye has been that he's soft. Though he's a legit 6-11, he might have difficulty standing his ground defensively in the low post, so he could wind up playing as a big power forward.

Lacks necessary bulk to bang with NBA centers night in and night out

Lack of lower body strength occasionally leads to him getting muscled off his spot.

Defensively, he does not have the strength to guard NBA post players right now, or the lateral quickness to take care of power forwards if they take him out to the perimeter.

Physically, he has a very narrow frame that will likely not be able to carry too much weight. Right now he gets pushed around an awful lot and this hurts his potential as a big man in all aspects of the game.


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[Bleed Green]

Frye will definetely bulk up. This guy just came out of college. He's probably lifting weights every day. I would pick Frye.They desperately need A Center. Aguirre will turn this guy into a beast.

 

[Mr. J]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting knicksfan:</div><div class="quote_post">Ok I can bring REPORTS too for FRYE.

The knock on Frye has been that he's soft. Though he's a legit 6-11, he might have difficulty standing his ground defensively in the low post, so he could wind up playing as a big power forward.

Lacks necessary bulk to bang with NBA centers night in and night out

Lack of lower body strength occasionally leads to him getting muscled off his spot.

Defensively, he does not have the strength to guard NBA post players right now, or the lateral quickness to take care of power forwards if they take him out to the perimeter.

Physically, he has a very narrow frame that will likely not be able to carry too much weight. Right now he gets pushed around an awful lot and this hurts his potential as a big man in all aspects of the game.


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But the thing is all of these things aren't necessarily accurate anymore; he's bulked up to 270 as Banks said. So all of that weight stuff is not a concern anymore.

 

[Sir Desmond]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting MrJ:</div><div class="quote_post">But the thing is all of these things aren't necessarily accurate anymore; he's bulked up to 270 as Banks said. So all of that weight stuff is not a concern anymore.</div>

His nature surely is though? Frye developed a reputation in college as being soft and preferring to hang around the foul line than mix it up inside. Is that suddenly going to change in the pros because he's put a few pounds on?

Whoever takes Frye in the lottery will be seriously disappointed; at least Bynum has the potential to be dominant.

 

[j0se]

The best fit for Fyre is the Suns or the Nets

 

[MiamiBalla12]

Well Bynum sure does have more potential than Frye.

 

[Miami Flash City]

ya i agree Bynum just has more potential than Frye.

 

[Drake Remoray]

It's a fairly smart move, makes more sense than going with Petro or Martynas Andriuskevicius.

 

[The Big Ticket]

I agree also that bynum has more potential than fyre and bynum is also younger.

 

[Mr. J]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Pwn3d!:</div><div class="quote_post">His nature surely is though? Frye developed a reputation in college as being soft and preferring to hang around the foul line than mix it up inside. Is that suddenly going to change in the pros because he's put a few pounds on? </div>
But is it possible he can alter his nature? When he was in college, his physical build affected his play and now that he?s stronger physically, I think that will change the way he plays. Besides, the Knicks don?t need a prominent scorer; we need someone who can block shots the most.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Whoever takes Frye in the lottery will be seriously disappointed; at least Bynum has the potential to be dominant.</div>
Frye is a hard worker and has a great work ethic and is exactly what we need; Bynum does have potential, but it will be in a while when he reaches it. With those expiring contracts, the Knicks need to win now and putting faith on a High School kid who needs development from college. He?s the next Desagana Diop to me.

 

[Beat]

How do you measure someones potential? I believe anybody can be better than anyone else if they try hard enough but some people believe that if someone has more potential than you u can never be better (Assuming both parties reach their full potential).So someone explain that please?

 

[Skiptomylue11]

If the knicks can get Bynum to realize his potential he could be a huge steal in the draft... however he could turn out to be a huge bust as well.

Isiah seems like a guy willing to take risks,

And the 8th pick of the 2005 draft is Andrew Bynum?

 

[Mr. J]

^I don't even think he deserves 8th pick. When he finally makes an impact four years from now, do you think it will be worth it? He isn't guaranteed success and it's notlike he completely dominated high school big men either. He only averaged 17 points a game which isn't too great considering they're only high school stats and usually has over 50 pounds over his opponents. He still has miles to go in terms of maturity. Don't be surprised if Jackie Butler starts getting more burn than Bynum in the future. Bynum is a 100% potential - that's it. How he utilizes it is up to him.

 

[Midnight Green]

I think a reason why isiah might consider taking him is, because of his local ties to the NY area. Thomas always seems to want to bring in as much NY people as he can to the franchise Marbury, Lenny Wilkens (that really worked out), and now Bynum. I think considering his age, and the pressure that will be on him to perform since the Knicks really do not have a center right now, and in this big media market they have in NY. The pressure of being a local talent combined with pressure of starting at such a young age he might be a bust if they take him.

 

[playmaker15]

I think that they could get him at 30. Picking him at 8 would be a waste, when they could get a young PF or a SF like Antoine Wright. He is a good pick, but they should be wondering if they could get him at 30 instead of 8.

 

[knicksfan]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting playmaker31:</div><div class="quote_post">I think that they could get him at 30. Picking him at 8 would be a waste, when they could get a young PF or a SF like Antoine Wright. He is a good pick, but they should be wondering if they could get him at 30 instead of 8.</div>

he won't get passed 13 according to people, blazers are trying to move to 10 to pick him or even to 6.

 

[hipokrat_x(LV)]

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Andrew Bynum, the 7-foot center who once upon a time was bound for UConn, remains one of the X-factors in the NBA draft.

Most NBA scouts and nearly all mock drafts have Bynum going late in the first round. But Bynum and his brother, Corey Thomas, have insisted recently that he would remain in the draft only if a spot among the top 10 picks was guaranteed.
Thus, there is a huge gap between what most are expecting to happen Tuesday and what Bynum expects.

But that gap may not mean that much.

Thomas has said it's possible Bynum would attend UConn if draft night didn't work out as planned, but league rules make that unlikely.

If Bynum is selected in the draft - and he almost certainly will be chosen in the first round - he would be bound to whichever team picks him until one year after his class graduates from college. There would be no advantage to going to college since he would be tied to that team at the salary levels currently in place.</div>

What if Bynum allready has a promise from Knicks. Otherwise I don't see any sence in this article...

 

[Knicks Analyst]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Pure Skillz:</div><div class="quote_post">I think a reason why isiah might consider taking him is, because of his local ties to the NY area. Thomas always seems to want to bring in as much NY people as he can to the franchise Marbury, Lenny Wilkens (that really worked out), and now Bynum. I think considering his age, and the pressure that will be on him to perform since the Knicks really do not have a center right now, and in this big media market they have in NY. The pressure of being a local talent combined with pressure of starting at such a young age he might be a bust if they take him.</div>
Honestly, the whole local talent thing is really just something for the media to play with and doll up. It lacks substance, though Isiah may say it was a part of it - he's just saying that. If there were a bunch of Isiah's little "athletes" out in Wyoming, he'd take them over some "just talented" player from NY/NJ any day.
He's from the suburbs of New Jersey as well, Metuchen. There's an enormous difference between Metuchen and Manhattan, they're close enough together for his school to take a nice little field trip to see him at MSG should he be drafted, but he's not from New York.
I just really dislike the whole "he's from the area" stuff. I do. Why don't we just trade down and draft Charlie V? I mean he's from New York; home-grown talent!

I mean, I really don't like it.

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Anyway, Bynum at 8 may very well be a huge reach. Frye will never be great, probably a notch over solid. Bynum has the potential to be dominant, and that is extremely appealing to a "potential/upside/talent" lover like Isiah. Rumors are about that if Portland completes a trade with Utah they may use their 6th pick to take Bynum. So Isiah isn't the only one.

 

[j0se]

Isiah is trying to bring all the Chicago people here, or Detriot area, Rose, Webber, Walker, Curry, Richardson, Crawford, Nazr........he's brough something of them here, and he has tried to get some of them here

I don't think Isiah is trying to get an all local NYC team( I wish he did, Marbruy, JR Smith, Etan Thomas, Haywood, Ron Artest, and Peter John Ramos)

Hopefully today Isiah will change his ways

 

[knicksfan]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Knicks Analyst:</div><div class="quote_post">Honestly, the whole local talent thing is really just something for the media to play with and doll up. It lacks substance, though Isiah may say it was a part of it - he's just saying that. If there were a bunch of Isiah's little "athletes" out in Wyoming, he'd take them over some "just talented" player from NY/NJ any day.
He's from the suburbs of New Jersey as well, Metuchen. There's an enormous difference between Metuchen and Manhattan, they're close enough together for his school to take a nice little field trip to see him at MSG should he be drafted, but he's not from New York.
I just really dislike the whole "he's from the area" stuff. I do. Why don't we just trade down and draft Charlie V? I mean he's from New York; home-grown talent!

I mean, I really don't like it.

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Anyway, Bynum at 8 may very well be a huge reach. Frye will never be great, probably a notch over solid. Bynum has the potential to be dominant, and that is extremely appealing to a "potential/upside/talent" lover like Isiah. Rumors are about that if Portland completes a trade with Utah they may use their 6th pick to take Bynum. So Isiah isn't the only one.</div>

H0t Sig

yes h0t with a zero because its more hawt.

 

[Knicks Analyst]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting knicksfan:</div><div class="quote_post">H0t Sig

yes h0t with a zero because its more hawt.</div>
I'll take that as a compliment.

I honestly would rather Isiah get a Magloire trade done, but I really don't see it. I also have an inkling that Toronto will draft Frye and dangle him over Isiah's head, forcing him to make a trade to Toronto sending them some expiring contracts in exchange for some long-term contracts. Keep in mind that this is a chance to draft a 6-11 guy with some talent, a guy who can potentially perform on a high level. He has the skills to become a special guy in the league, I think Babcock knows this and will use it against the Knicks.