EL PRESIDENTE
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Israeli Ambassador to Washington: Relationship with US-Israel @ 35 year low.
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Nobel Peace Prize, for the win.
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Good!
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I would happily give the Israelis L.A. so they can start shitting all over Laker fans.
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UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!
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Yeah, because the Palestinians will stop randomly launching rockets into Israel if the Israelis are just a little nicer to them.
They probably would if Israel stopped their systematic and forceful takeover of Palestinian lands.
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You mean you wish that we'd give $2.5 billion in military aid to Hamas and Hezbollah? Why?
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Aw, how cute.
But I have yet to hear this current Administration speak out against those two organizations the way they spoke to the Israelis.
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Aw, how cute.
But I have yet to hear this current Administration speak out against those two organizations the way they spoke to the Israelis.
Well, if I had the choice, I'd rather you gave me $2.5 billion and criticized me in public, than not giving me $2.5 billion and not criticizing me.
Besides, the Israelis picked this fight - for reasons I don't understand - but obviously they could have announced the settlement stuff either before or after Biden's trip.
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Is it your opinion that the Obama Administration had treated Israel well before this trip?
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Honestly, I am unaware of, or do not remember, what may have been said publicly prior to this trip. But money talks, and it's persuasive.
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Fixed. Congratulations to Obama for his second Nobel Peace Prize, as judged by the whole world.
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I wonder what this administration would do if Israel were attacked?
jlprk
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Israel has a couple thousand nuclear weapons, complete with delivery systems like IRBMs. Probably secret ICBMs too. Israel can defend itself, for defense. But for a large offense, they lack manpower, which is why they need to infiltrate Western intelligence to get other countries to attack their Eastern Front for them. That's what we're in the midst of doing, based upon false intelligence from them, like yellowcake.
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Can't really say I blame the Obama Administration here. I'm an Israel supporter but I have not been a big fan recently.
American's in general have an incredibly one sided view of this conflict. Honestly I would be pretty upset if I was illegally thrown out of my homeland through military force and the aggressor's get nothing more than some stern words.
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You don't understand. It was the Jews' land, and always had been, even in the thousands of years they didn't rule it.
Besides, all they did was throw out a bunch of A-rabs.
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They were there first. Do you deny that fact?
The bottom line is if the Palestinians would negotiate honestly with the Israelis, everyone could live in peace. Oslo gave the Palestinians almost everything they wanted and they still turned it down. Why? Because they refuse to recognize Israel's right to exist.
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I don't deny that fact. I do deny that it matters.
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Yep, drive the Jews into the sea and finish the job Hitler started. What does it matter? They're just filthy sub-humans. The Jews deserve a homeland of their own. They took a desert and turned it into an oasis of democracy and commerce.
The bottom line is that the Palestinians are being used by Arab leaders to keep their masses enraged against a common enemy rather than have them enraged against their leaders. Hell, they're being used by their own leaders. They live in squalor while Arafat died a billionaire.
If the Palestinians wished it to be so, there could be a two-state solution in short order.
I would have issues as well if I was subjected to to the worst of British Emperialistic policies, watched the forceful creation of a nation that hadn't existed for almost a thousand years in the middle of my homeland, and then having an ethnic minority forcefully take land that had been in some Palestinian families for generations. To say they have been fucked over royally is an understatement.
Maxie I highly recommend you actually take some time to learn about the conflict then regurgitate the usual western point of view. Are the Palistinian's innocent...no. But I would say they are much more of a victim than the Israeli's.
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It seems pretty obvious to me that both sides want to continue fighting. Did you ever have one of those situations in school where a teacher took two kids who were fighting out back and just let them beat the fuck out of each other until everything was settled? That is what needs to happen here. The reason this fight never ends, is because one side never wins. It is always some sort of mini war with no victor and tons of victims. The type of fight that never settles anything.
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That is the difference between growing up in a farming community and growing up in the city I guess. Lawsuits, that is pretty much city pussy bullshit.
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Um, yeah...
I suppose that when the Zionists blew up the King David Hotel, they were doing it on behalf of the British?
The Ottomans treated the Palestinians worse than the British ever did. The bottom line is that none of their neighbors liked the Palestinians very much. Currently, they're being used as useful idiots by other Arab leaders.
I wonder where your outcry is for the Baltic States, Belarus, The Ukraine and the Central Asian Republics? What about Tibet? What about the American Indians? Territories are taken over all the time. The Iraelis deserve a homeland and it's not a large area for which they're asking. The fact that it was once theirs before gives them legitimacy. The fact the Palestinians refuse to negotiate a two state solution with non-contiguous borders or agree to no right of return shows they're not negotiating in good faith.