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barfo said:
As I understand it, if you talk to a lawyer for the purpose of committing a future crime, the privilege does not exist.

barfo
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That’s true. The question is whether the government had reasonable proof of that before they raided Cohen’s office and subsequently compelled him to testify against Trump. Above my pay grade, but I would be willing to bet that issue comes into question when this whole stinky mess eventually gets litigated. If it does.
 
Mueller's report is forthcoming and I hope its over one way or another!
 
Hoopguru said:
Mueller's report is forthcoming and I hope its over one way or another!
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I too would like to get back to having a government that we can ignore most of the time.

The entertainment value of today was very high, but I didn't get much work done.

barfo
 
barfo said:
I too would like to get back to having a government that we can ignore most of the time.

The entertainment value of today was very high, but I didn't get much work done.

barfo
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We don't want to ignore the government we want them to get stuff done and hold them to the fire!
 
Oh yeah, another thing I've been seeing the past few days are liberal parents forcing their kids to watch this Michael Cohen testimony like its some kind of historical event, then posting it on social media saying that "we are witnessing history".

That's how triggered libs are. The delusions are absolute. Isn't even a blip on the news more since there were no splashes.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
Oh yeah, another thing I've been seeing the past few days are liberal parents forcing their kids to watch this Michael Cohen testimony like its some kind of historical event, then posting it on social media saying that "we are witnessing history".

That's how triggered libs are. The delusions are absolute. Isn't even a blip on the news more since there were no splashes.
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Heh. You seem to be talking about it.

barfo
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
Oh yeah, another thing I've been seeing the past few days are liberal parents forcing their kids to watch this Michael Cohen testimony like its some kind of historical event, then posting it on social media saying that "we are witnessing history".
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You're in LA......those are the parents of child actors...they want the kids to know the dialogue when it becomes the movie of the week so they can get the part....getting Baron's role will be a tough field..it's all about who can pretend the best
 
barfo said:
As I understand it, if you talk to a lawyer for the purpose of committing a future crime, the privilege does not exist.

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That is 100% correct.
 
e_blazer said:
That’s true. The question is whether the government had reasonable proof of that before they raided Cohen’s office and subsequently compelled him to testify against Trump. Above my pay grade, but I would be willing to bet that issue comes into question when this whole stinky mess eventually gets litigated. If it does.
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Mueller is a top notch attorney. They also had a federal judge's approval to do so.
I might add that this raid was sanctioned by the deputy Attorney General of the United States government.
No, I think the issue of whether they had the authority to do so is firmly settled.
 
200wpopcorn zombie.gif <Devoted Trump supporter.
 
Lanny said:
Mueller is a top notch attorney. They also had a federal judge's approval to do so.
I might add that this raid was sanctioned by the deputy Attorney General of the United States government.
No, I think the issue of whether they had the authority to do so is firmly settled.
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I get that that is what you think. My thought, based on how I have seen the legal system work, is that, if this goes to court, Mr Trump’s attorneys will have a different take on the matter and that it won’t be “firmly settled” until the Supreme Court has ruled on it.
 
e_blazer said:
I get that that is what you think. My thought, based on how I have seen the legal system work, is that, if this goes to court, Mr Trump’s attorneys will have a different take on the matter and that it won’t be “firmly settled” until the Supreme Court has ruled on it.
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The U.S. Supreme Court relies heavily on what the lower federal courts ruled.
Anyhow, like I said, Trump's lawyers would be bucking a federal judge whose job is to approve or disapprove of search warrants plue the deputy Attorney General. Gonna be tough for Trump's lawyers to win that one. I'd say so tough that it's gonna be damn near impossible.

Also, Trump's lawyers don't have a good track record of winning cases outside the deep South.
 
Lanny said:
The U.S. Supreme Court relies heavily on what the lower federal courts ruled.
Anyhow, like I said, Trump's lawyers would be bucking a federal judge whose job is to approve or disapprove of search warrants plue the deputy Attorney General. Gonna be tough for Trump's lawyers to win that one. I'd say so tough that it's gonna be damn near impossible.

Also, Trump's lawyers don't have a good track record of winning cases outside the deep South.
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Ha! In a world where Bill Clinton argued that a BJ wasn't sex and parsed his answers based on "what the definition of "is" is" and managed to avoid being impeached for lying to Congress, I think we can assume that this issue is far from settled. Getting one judge to issue a search warrant does not constitute legal precedent.
 
e_blazer said:
Ha! In a world where Bill Clinton argued that a BJ wasn't sex and parsed his answers based on "what the definition of "is" is" and managed to avoid being impeached for lying to Congress, I think we can assume that this issue is far from settled. Getting one judge to issue a search warrant does not constitute legal precedent.
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Bill Clinton was impeached.
 
e_blazer said:
Ha! In a world where Bill Clinton argued that a BJ wasn't sex and parsed his answers based on "what the definition of "is" is" and managed to avoid being impeached for lying to Congress, I think we can assume that this issue is far from settled. Getting one judge to issue a search warrant does not constitute legal precedent.
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I'm not sure what the basis would be to challenge the search. Recall that everything they seized went through a special master who decided whether there was any attorney-client privileged materials (and Trump/Cohen were allowed to weigh in on that). So attorney-client privilege probably doesn't win the day. So they'd have to show there was no probable cause to do the search in the first place, and I'm not even sure Trump would have standing to challenge that at all (it wasn't his stuff, it was Cohen's), much less successfully.

barfo
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Bill Clinton was impeached.
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You are correct, of course. Here’s a treat:
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